Thread: Oh No... 4-ecorp Scam Alert : Posted May 20th

I just receieved an e-mail warning,

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I'm not going to bash 4-Ecorp just yet I just want to open your eyes a minute and get you to think about something...

Then dont post it.neno
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I still think http://www.SendOutCards.com/5956 is the best company around bar-none. I get excited just like you and jump to test the newest gadget our offer. The latest are these so called gas saving pills and potions. Ethos, better known as 4-ECorp, seems to be the front runner and is generating a bunch of hype.

I’m testing Fuel Freedom International but I’m not expecting to get anything out of it http://honeyfrog.myffi.biz

Now, now don’t get too excited about these companies. I don’t think they will be here for to long, maybe 9 months. Everyone is signing up for free and boasting about how many people the have in their power leg. These people seem to think that they found the golden egg and are so blinded by greed they don’t spend any time doing proper research.

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Here’s an interesting article:

Case Study: Ethos Fuel Reformulator

The Ethos Fuel Reformulator has apparently been around for more than ten years (although suspiciously their website, www.ethosfr.com, was essentially empty until 2003, and I can't find any reference at all to the product on the Net before 2002). Recently it has gained a lot of publicity due to launching an MLM marketing scheme via a new website.

The mere fact of employing MLM techniques does of course immediately trigger warning bells among skeptics. Some perfectly good and effective products are sold through MLM, but it is also a common method employed by scammers and snake-oil salesmen to maximize revenue from ineffective products. (Commonly, the "early adopters" make much, if not most, of their money by recruiting lower-level sales people rather than directly through product sales.)

An interesting bit of information is that the Patent apparently lapsed in 2002 because the patent owner failed to pay the 11-year maintenance charge of $3 800 - which is odd behavior for a company that supposedly is making tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars a year...

Another interesting fact concerns the CEO of the company. You will often see a comment along these lines from Ethos supporters and sellers: CEO Ethos Environmental: Enrique De Vilmorin, PhD Harvard University, Nobel Prize nominee for 15 patents regarding clean air and environment. Yet a simple search on the Patent database shows that not only is de Vilmorin not the patent holder for Ethos, but he apparently holds no patents at all. I am therefore skeptical about the Nobel nomination as well - especially since, as a rule, nominations are kept secret for 50 years.

FULL REVIEW HERE: http://www.fuelsaving.info/ethos.htm

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You'll find the same stuff written about Fuel Freedom International.

My Advice?

Don't bet on it!

...This email was written on the FLY!

Luis Garcia
Super Affiliate
Power Builder
Unquote:

pinetree

Wow!!,

You printed alot. But I believe you are jumping the gun. I an in and did make my investment back in a week with the mlm plan. So that was good.

Now my product will be here in less then a week as well as members joining up until now. So yes I still have to test the product for my self to.

Any time you are on the front line there is a chance of the product being no good. But there is a guaranteed satisfaction with the purchase. I know anyone in a position of being in front wants it to work before actually getting it. I will report in our 4-E thread my results as I get them.

With all the fakes being know and Bio Performance pills being shut down here in Dallas where I live along with 4-E knowing all this, I believe it is the Real Deal. So I hope you are wrong. Soon to be seen.

And if you are wrong, we will have to remove this thread. Cause this thread is for proven scams. This you have printed is not a scam warning it is a opinion of what you think. I am a Greenzap member and have seen hundreds of things saying Greenzap is a Scam and they are still here and nothing has ever been proven different there too. They are just slow. hehe But like I said the product is on its way.

Ok, this is not from me but my up-line.
I don't know what to think. This is an opinion based e-mail
that I have just received. Jeez...hope its not true.
I hope I took all of the "blue" words out
.................................................. .......

Get a cup of coffee or ice tea and sit back and be entertained by this
MLM SAGA or MLM Soap Opera

This e-mail is JUST MY OPINION
I AM JUST ONE MAN SHARING WHAT I KNOW TO BE TRUE...

To my 4-Ecorp Downline "4-Ecorp and Ethos is a SCAM" Phil Resigned on 6/4/2006

This email may take 10 to 20 minutes to read and it took Two Days to write but if you are
going to give 2 to 5 Years of your life to a company? It is worth 10 to 20 minutes of your
time to get some information... Many may take this as MUD SLINGING but it is not
meant to be... If I was going to dedicate time to a program and my upline hid the following
facts from me... I would be very upset... May you take the time and make the right choice...

To My 4-Ecorp Downline
From [email protected]

Phil Piccolo Exposes 4-Ecorp SUPER SCAM Plus...
Phil walked from Tens Of Thousands of $$$$ a month
4-Ecorp and Ethos SUPER SCAM... DOCUMENTED SUPER SCAM...
(The Good news is that Phil just found out that he has up to 60 days after his
Bank Statement to reverse his Check Charge for this $399 Scam)

TOPICS IN THIS E-MAIL
#1 Phil Piccolo breaks all records with 4-Ecorp
#2 Phil Piccolo finds out 4-Ecorp and Ethos is a SCAM
#3 Phil Piccolo and Dan Atkinson go head to head
#4 Phil Piccolo resigns from 4-Ecorp
#5 San Diego meeting with Enrique and Documentation is Smoke and Mirrors
#6 Information about Shane Maguire and Dan Atkinson
#6-A New Update on CEO Daniel Chattin "The Double Minded Dealer"
#7 Phil Piccolo has ALWAYS worked only PRODUCT DRIVEN ROGRAMS
#8 Phil Piccolo will join Rick Garland (4-Ecorp's Original President) and
Build The Largest Downline in The History of The MLM World
#9 Join Phil Piccolo an MLM ICON in The MLM Industry
#10 Contact Phil Piccolo



This is One of The Most Important E-mails that I have ever written...
by Phillip Angelo Piccolo

If you or anyone you know has anything to do with 4-Ecorp or Ethos FR you need to RUN FOR THE HILLS... I have 8 Children and 3 Grand Children and SO HELP ME GOD...
I am not making up one bit of this e-mail... I CAN DOCUMENT EVERYTHING IN THIS E-Mail... I walked away from over TENS OF THOUSANDS a Month income NOT TO LIVE THE 4-Ecorp LIE...

Remember the BIG Ethos TESTIMONY about The TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN TOYS...
That was My Testimony... SO YES I WAS A BELIEVER...

#1 Phil Piccolo breaks all records with 4-Ecorp
It was about 10 weeks ago Joe Reid their Master Distributor called me and told me
about 4-Ecorp he said that the structure would be Joe Reid sponsors Ron Ottaviano
sponsors Paul Morris who Sponsors Phil Piccolo aka PAP...

That was and still is The Structure from The Top Of The Binary... Of course all the owners of 4-Ecorp knew I was at The Top... since I was the number one recruiter for The Company... Phil Piccolo... believe it or not... is the most sort out person in The World of MLM by company owners... Because of my God Given Recruiting Skills... I am known by my peers to be one of the best and it has been proven 100 times over and over that no one can touch me when it comes to building an organization for which I do currently hold every record in the industry... not once but OVER and OVER

So 4-ecorp welcomed me with open arms...
In fact I would have Midnight chats that lasted hours with Shane Maguire the PRESIDENT of 4-Ecorp

Here is what we were sold... ETHOS, Enrique, HAVARD GRAD, NOBEL PRIZE NOMINEE, Chemist, Scientist, MEGA MILLIONAIRE, Ten Years in Business, currently selling $150,000,000 a year to China, 50 Containers monthly with 85 drums per container, Going Public and now goes MLM... Dan Atkinson $100,000 a month earner past 15 years, Shane McGuire the same... as far as Rick Garland and Dan Chattin they were an Unknown to me and now I know why since they never did MLM Before... By The Way I have talked with Dan Chattin and Rick Garland and the two of them are just victims in this major, major mess...

OK here is how it went
I got excited and recruited personally over 200 leaders within days and my personal UNI-Level group grew to over 45,000
I kept everything in my power leg so that everyone would get spillover in The Power leg...
It was about 5 weeks into the program where I brought my San Antonio Friend in To be my Partner and to build out the other side of the power leg...
My 4-Ecorp San Antonio Partner is someone who I found at the young age of 26 and taught him most of what he knows about the industry today...
He is closer than a brother and I trust him like a son he was the one person i asked my wife to contact if I were to die to keep my work going...
He got committed and personally sponsored from our joint list about 3800 people and they collectively sponsored over 10,000
So now we have 4 binary positions in 4-Ecorp for me and my partner...
NOTHING and I mean NOTHING was done in secret...
Even the additional positions built in for future leaders ALL OKED BY THE COMPANY...

Our main position as of last week had 89,000 people below it signed up in 4-Ecorp
I had 79,000 and over 5 million $ in sales in my left leg that I built
and my partner built 10,000 and $350,000 in sales in our right leg
This gave us a check of about $39,000 almost $19,000 from the Binary
and almost $20,000 from the personal sponsorship of the 3800 people and what they bought...
Imagine that we created over 5 million dollars in sales and only earned $19,000...
And we got there because for the past 4 years my partner and i have built list...
I gave him about 150,000 of the list and he had about 60,000 on his list
About 6 weeks ago I got involved with another opportunity and i said to my partner that i felt
we did all we can do here... now let it build itself... and come help me over here...

HE REFUSED and wanted to stay focused on 4-E
I said OK... I will go build a POWER LEG with the new company and you stay focused on 4-E
Within 25 days I built over 50,000 people in this OTHER PROGRAM...
AND DID not touch anyone from my 4-E Business...

However this is where I started to see a lot of weakness in 4-Ecorps Binary Plan
For example my sponsor who brought in many heavy hitters and was our Personal Sponsor made only $167
Even The MASTER DISTRIBUTOR with over 5 Million Dollars in sales made LESS THAN $10,000
But Dan and Shane pulled out $100,000 EACH and a whole bunch of PERKS...

SO LETS SEE we break all the RECORDS and "The Master Distributor Joe Reid and Paul Morris collectively
Earn LESS THAN $10,000 but The President and Vice President get OVER $200,000 PLUS PLUS PLUS"

THE NIGHTMARE BEGINS...
#2 Phil Piccolo finds out 4-Ecorp and Ethos is a SCAM

I get a call from my best friend in the whole world and he says that Enrique is a FRAUD
I said I do not believe it... I need proof... Remember I am on track to earn $100,000 a month
and not have to do ANYTHING else for it... because I already built the largest group in 4-Ecorp
and since my 50/50 4-E partner is working to maintain it...

AFTER 2 hours on the phone my stomach is TURNING with the discussed that all of us fell
for this big LIE... and that Enrique not only was not who he said he was... but neither was THE PRODUCT...
Neither was Dan Atkinson or Shane McGuire...

I literally started to get sick to my stomach....
I did not just go by what the men on the other line were saying...
I got faxed and over nighted 100's of pages of Documentation...
DVD's and CDs... Undeniable proof That Ethos and 4-Ecorp were frauds...

OH MY GOSH... my poor partner... i had to tell him... and i made the call...
I waited more than 36 hours after i found out and read and saw all the proof...
When I told him what I found out... He could not talk... he literally went to the bathroom and threw up...
I knew what he was feeling... I just put this untested CRAP in 2 million Dollars of equipment
I literally spent $2,000 to get it out of my YACTH for fear of what i read that happen to CHINA
YES HAPPEN to CHINA... and I saw the document signed by Enrique in reference to 40 barrels
of product and how the China customer said all his equipment was getting ruined... and wanted to sue...

#3 Phil Piccolo and Dan Atkinson go head to head

It was the NEXT DAY that Dan Atkinson started saying bad things about me
and spreading rumors that i was cross sponsoring... remember i did not work
4-E for the past 5 weeks... did not recruit not even ONE PERSON...
but suddenly he has a problem with me...

I thought it might be that I am a Christian and he is a Jehovah's Witness
That is an oxy moron... A guy who can not salute the flag but makes millions in this country...
But than does he make millions you will be surprised at the Dan and Shane Story...
and their RAGS to RICHES with Ethos... it is a WOPPER...

DAN told my partner that me Phil Piccolo have tried to call him (Dan) a dozen times that week
and that he was mad at me and would not return my calls... and that i was fixing to be
put on notice for cross sponsoring from the company....

a) I have never called Dan NOT EVEN ONCE SINCE I WAS WITH 4-Ecorp
b) I have not been active for over 5 weeks with 4-Ecorp

SO WHAT WAS UP DAN's Sleeves here...

SO I wrote a letter to SHANE demanding an apology.... on June 4th 2006
on June 5th, 2006 on Sunday morning right after watching Dr James Kennedy and Joel Osteen
i got convicted about being mad at Dan and came to the computer to let him know he was forgiven...
But when I opened my e-mails I was in shock that this liar, this man of deception was angry at me
and said that if i did not straiten up that i would be put on notice...

SO I RESIGNED

Here is my copy of my letter to Shane and Dan Saturday Night

Subj: Shane I am a very angry person right now... and need you to call me...
Date: 6/3/2006 8:06:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: Philpiccolo
To: [email protected], [email protected]
CC: Philpiccolo




Your Vice President trashed my name on a conference call
"quote Phil Piccolo has called me for 2 weeks and i have ignored his calls"
"quote Phil Piccolo may not be part of this equation very shortly"
"quote Phil Piccolo has cross recruited many people from 4-e to aaTCM"

Shane we have a MAJOR problem...
a) All I have done since day one is sing praises about you and Ethos.
b) I have not called Dan A (now i know what the A stands for) once since I have joined this program... he called me only once to tell me he shut off Paul Morris's site for cross sponsoring.
c) I have not cross-sponsored ONE Person ... I have personally sponsored 10 Million Dollar Earners front line and have not sponsored anyone else in the program.
d) My only conversations have been with you and they were good friendly ones where we were creating a Bond...
e) Dan also said something derogatory about my Testimony...

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#4 Phil Piccolo resigns on Sunday 6/4/06 at 12:50 PM from 4-Ecorp

HERE IS A COPY OF MY RESIGNATION ON SUNDAY MORNING
(oh by the way when I respond to peoples e-mails they are line by line)


Subj: Phil Piccolo turns over all of his rights and commissions to:
Date: 6/4/2006 12:50:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: Philpiccolo
To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]



Phil Piccolo turns over all of his rights and commissions to Joel Sauceda and Vortex.
Understand that Phillip Piccolo has no ownership whatsoever in Joel Sauceda's Company Vortex.

After reading Dan's letter consider this my last letter as an Ethos Promoter. I am giving Joel Sauceda all of my positions or interest in my positions in 4-Ecorp.

Dan you are an ass...
You know nothing about me and my methods...
You my new found enemy threw the FIRST PUNCH
I did not or was not given any position at the top of your program...
I was sponsored and was promised entry from day one...
ASK JOE REID who is the MASTER DISTRIBUTOR
and after 5 million in business he earns less than $10,000 what a joke

Paul morris did not earn his position or bonus are you kidding me WHAT A JOKE

You Dan are a JOKE...

I personally will not have anything to do with a company that has people like you in MANAGE MENT... your brochure says you earned 6 figures a month for 13 years...
WHAT A JOKE WHAT A LIE...

Joel take the program and run with it...
I am out of here... YOU KNOW ME AND YOU KNOW MY HEART...

below is a line by line RESPONSE to The Dan A
find my response in ( )

Phil, and Paul,
I have had more complaints about you and your team than ANY OTHER group in this company.

Phil, I told you when we first spoke, I would have an eye on what goes on in this company as Ethics will be # one priority in 4E.


(well if that is true you should have resigned from day one and save this company from your TRUE reputation)


I have let many thing ride on your behalf manly because I have been very busy, and Shane said he had things under control.
(like what list them)

First off: As far as cross sponsoring, and calling people in this company that are leaders to pitch them on your deal, I can name more than a few.
Miguel Gallimore, and Steven Lee,

(do not know these guys and i remember talking to Miguel one time and said if he would help me build my Spanish leg that i would build out a position for him without his help... when a guy can sponsor like i can i do not need to steal... i do not know a steven lee)

just for starters, not to mention all of the emails I get complaining about you and your guys promoting your deal
on the heals of what we are doing here at 4E. You call everyone yours so you think this is ok, it is very not ok.

( i have no control over 55,000 people and what they do... i personally sponsored 10 people and 3 of them chose to build and now there is 55,000... if they approach a 4-e member you want me to control that... how do you think you got 84,000 people by 4-e people not talking to other networkers... that is the difference between you attitude and my attitude... if people want to do 100 other deals it does not phase me one bit... )

Secondly: I can point to MANY leaders building 4E with out all of the email damage you and your team have created.
You guys think you own the people in your data base? We all share the same data. The unwritten rule in Net-Working is the first
person that shares the opportunity wins.
But, not with you guys, you put out many emails telling folks,
"If you joined with the wrong sponsor, it is not to late to change and join again with the right team, Vortex"

(again you know nothing of what you are talking about... you have not seen my e-mails... you will soon see some and then you will know who you are dealing with)

What kind of Bull crap marketing is that? I had no less than 10 leaders calling for your heads, but, I stood up for you, even thou I did not agree with your tactics!
That alone would have you out on your ear with most companies, start up or not.

(really do a unilevel build of your company and just add wayne brown to my front line and see where 90% of your unilevel company came from...
NOT YOU MY ENEMY NOT YOU)

I believe a strong 10-20% of your weak leg was in the power leg before you pulled this email stunt. That means a good number of your team was Sponsored by another member before your emails went out. Guys that is a very big deal!

(not true... only because your team stole from us in the beginning especially with all my BankMLM associates of which there are over 120,000 in that database... 4-E members raped it and i said nothing)

We spent a lot of man hours canceling members orders all to have them rejoin under your team. They told us they were promised better sponsorship and a bigger leg.
Again a good reason to be upset with you guys. Next these same people, now call us back complaining because your promoting another deal to there team!
Go figure,...

(again you have your FACTS WRONG HERE)

But, we again did not have time to verify every complaint, so we again cut you some slack and moved on. Then with in days of a warning, your guys are at it again.
The same style emails go out time and time again. I told Shane I wanted people dismissed and given a refund, I told him our credibility was being mocked. He said let me take care of it, and I let it go a third time! The latest emails were about ten days ago. At this point even Shane is feeling like he is being played, now he is getting upset!

(again you do not know what you are talking about... I have not been active in 4-E for over 5 weeks... the only thing i have done is boast about your product giving everyone who comes in my home a BOTTLE of Ethos for FREE... however that as of today will stop... YOUR PRODUCT WILL GO IN THE GARBAGE along with Bio-Performance)

This is just a few of the reasons I have been upset with your team. I thought letting time heal the damage was the best course, so when Joe wanted me to speak with you today Phil, I told him I had no interest in speaking with you, as I was a little more than upset at this point. I told him I had been avoiding speaking with you for a few weeks now. (all true)

(that was not what you said... you said you have been ignoring my calls... why would i call you... i have had good communications with Shane as a Christian Brother and Business Colleague)

Phil, after all your group has put me thru, how dare you send me an email and bark at me like some junk yard dog!
Calling me an *****, and an ASS, telling me if I want world war three bring it on??! (You have no idea who you are threatening Phil, so I'll forgive this once)

(you are the one who needs forgiveness... and after watching Joel Osteen i got convicted of my letter even though you threw the FIRST PUNCH telling my LEADER that you were not returning my calls and that i was going to be terminated in certain code words... but Joel Osteen talked about taking the higher road... so i came to my computer to write an apology for my anger but then i got your response and instead of you APOLOGIZING for PUNCHING ME OUT... you freaking defend your indefensible actions... )

Then Paul, you have the nerve to ask for me to give this guy a PUBLIC APOLOGY, and hurry up and pay you two checks that you have not qualified for of else!
Are you joking??

(OH YEAH the world will hear about the great Paul Morris who put unilevel over 30,000 people in your deal and GOT A WOPING $167 since it started... you stole from paul and SHANE said he would GF Paul and I at the top AWARD POSITIONS... you owe PAUL AND I MONEY... PAY UP... or just keep it you will need it)


Let me see if I have this strait guys;
#1.You two were granted positions above others in the tree, (not by me)

(We were GRANTED NOTHING... THAT is the way it was set up from day one and your SOFTWARE DEPARTMENT SCREWED UP... ask JOE REID... Wayne and other heard about it FROM ME and they were SHOWING ABOVE ME... Get your facts correct... you are digging a bigger hole here for you to CLIMB OUT OF)


#2 Then you screw the people under you in the power leg, by promoting yourselves as better sponsors and suggest they rejoin under your team.

(NOT TRUE) again that was a squabble with two leaders who attacked databases and that was all explained to shane by joel and myself... it had nothing to do with me...)

#3 This cost us the company time, money, and credibility because we allow this with out giving you a refund and walking papers!

(that my new found enemy would have been the NAIL in your 4-E Corp... Company and if you ever terminate one of my hard working leaders from 4-E for insufficient reasons 4-E will be terminated from the world of MLM )

#4 Then you ask Shane to grant you Bounces that you are not qualified for, all because you guys are who you are in the industry.

(i thought you said you were not an ASS but a lot of CRAP is coming out of your mouth... you *****... WHEN you talk about us it should be with reverence... we hold every record in the industry... shane GF in PAUL and I because of what happen in the 1st day of the company putting our leaders above us who we brought to the company... but you head was up your ass as it is now and did not know what happen... TALK with your MASTER DISTRIBUTOR JOE REID he knows the whole story... )

#5 Then you have the audacity to ***** at me infront of a group that you have CCED because you don't like the fact that I told your sponsor and a friend of mine that I was VERY upset with you?

(a friend of yours again a BUNCH OF CRAP Joel Sauceda is not a friend of yours but is mine of 8 years... his kids call me UNCLE... you told Joel that you did not even know who he was... the more you talk the more YOU LIE... )

#6 Then you threaten me, call me names like a child and ask ME to APOLOGIES or we are going to have WORLD WAR THREE!!! lol

(NO again you LIE... i said if you want world war 3 bring it on... you keep getting your facts messed up... )

Let me tell you something Phil,...DON'T you piss off you wrong guy here! I have put up with all I am going to as far as you are concerned.

(oh my gosh... caaaaannnnnnn yyyyoooouuuuu tell my hands are starting to shake.... )

I don't like your threats, or your lack of appreciation for what I have done for you to date. Walk softly my friend as this can go away, or get very ugly!

(speaking of UGLY why did you put your picture in the 4-E brochure that is going to kill growth at least by 30%)


Who the hell do you guys think you are any ways? You do not know me, so please don't underestimate, or disrespect me again.

(TOO LATE)

You want to stay in this company,.....you are on notice, I will have a letter drafted this week, it will be in your box ASAP.

(TOO LATE AGAIN)

I will also provide many complaints about you and all you have done.

Lastly Phil and Paul; you want to bit** at me, you do it like Business Men, on the phone, NOT with all of the CC's to other people,
this is not a game boys, so do not play me!

(that is the difference if i have something to say i say it to someone's face and not behind their backs to their best friends... i could have sent my e-mail to just SHANE... but i sent you a big FAT COPY)


You get a hold of me alone and we will deal with this crap you pulled this evening, and Phil, do not threaten me again, I AM NOT YOUR BIT**!

(TOO LATE)

Good night,
Dan Atkinson

And a Good Morning to You
Phillip Piccolo

With all this and that said... I am first a Christian than a Business Man so my Bible says to Pray for my enemies and wish them well... so with that said I do hope you and Shane do well and will truly pray for you and your team... Now what you really need to do is put a sock in your big mouth and leave me alone. Treat Joel Sauceda with the respect he deserves... he is a hard worker and will do good by you and your company... if you respond to this e-mail let it be with just three words... I am sorry... anything else would just make you look foolish...

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I than got a voice mail message from Shane asking me not to leave
and to make up with Dan.... This was my response
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Subj: Shane just got your voice message...
Date: 6/4/2006 5:16:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: Philpiccolo
To: [email protected]


Shane just got your message...

a) i know what Dan did was not in public... my idea of public was to you, Paul, Joel, Joe Reid and myself...

b) you are right about Christians fighting but even Peter and Paul did not see things the same way and went their own ways...

c) i have enjoyed your fellowship and enjoyed my time in Ethos but now I am gone... what Dan did was irresponsible and undeserving...

d) i think you have me personally and the Vortex system mixed up...
if you or Dan would have returned even one of Joel's many e-mails and calls...
any Vortex problems would have been solved...
you said just recently Vortex did it again...
a Phone Call to me or Joel would have fixed that...

e) as i ended with Dan's last letter to him... i am gone...
please honor my wish and give anything that i have built to Joel Sauceda...
he wants to stay on your team... why i do not know... if it were me i would not...
but than you already know that...

I wish you well and I hope you over come what is heading your way...
I am very busy with aaTCM and do not have the time to defend myself...

We may no longer be in business together but I believe from my few chats
with you that you are a believer and when it is all said and written...
that is all that counts in The End...

I know i may be walking away from millions of dollars
but as my testimony said it's not about the mileage...
well this is not about the money...

See Ya in Heaven My Christian Brother
Phillip Piccolo

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THE VERY NEXT DAY...
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Dan Atkinson is telling people HE FIRED ME
Funny you read the above e-mails did it sound like I was fired

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#5 San Diego meeting with Enrique and Documentation is Smoke and Mirrors

OK NOW FOR SOME GOOD STUFF...
They had this big meeting with 60 So Called Leaders
50 of them went home scratching their heads...
LIKE WHAT WAS THAT... where is The Documentation
They let only 10 BIG LEADERS in a Special Room
They should have been call The Big 10 Brown Noses...
MY SON Andrew went to the meeting...
GUESS WHAT "NO DOCUMENTATION"...

HOWEVER Dan Atkinson did stop the Attorney's for OMSTAR from publicly giving Enrique a letter stating that because of his actions these past months and years that the arbitration was to be reopened and that damages would be sought after... the press and camera crew was not allowed in the room or to talk with anyone...

NOW if someone has a HARVARD DEGREE why not SHOW IT... if someone has nothing to hide why not film it.... NOT ONE ASSOCIATE out of all THE SO CALLED LEADERS asked or demanded to see documentation... BOY YOU KNOW IF I WAS THERE... it would have been asked for... EVERYONE ELSE was worried about their little checks... so much that they are willing to go home and LIE to their groups... just to get another CHECK....

Instead Enrique after asking that all the cameras get turned off addressed two issues.
a) he said about The Harvard Degree that he attended Harvard for 1.5 years and got his degree at UCLA...
and it was in Economics not in anything related to the business at hand... a very unrelated field for which
all the claims that were made...
b) he said about His Nomination for The Nobel Prize was a Misunderstanding and that what was really
the case is that The Product Can Qualify to Actually Be Nominated for A Nobel Prize... Just like any other
product like a windshield wiper can be nominated... these were his own words...

It really sounds like Enrique may have received his degree from a Cracker Jack Box...

#6 Information about Shane Maguire and Dan Atkinson

After Careful Review of what i was going to put here I have decided not to reveal what I have found out about these two men.
Mainly since Shane Maguire claims to be a Christian and I do believe him to be one...
However if they try to discredit me in anyway with any more lies...
Like the fact that Dan Atkinson "FIRED ME"...
I will fully release everything I have on them to The Public...

JOKE OF THE YEAR... QUOTE from 4E Corporation's Brocure
Dan Atkinson CO-FOUNDER
Dan is a 42 year old, successful self-made entrepreneur in business since the young age of 22.
He has been a six figure a month earner for the past 13 years in marketing and sales...
a) Someone needs to tell him you are not suppose to count the decimal point "or"
b) He must have been talking about Pesos with Enrique...
c) Ask Dan Atkinson about the car he drives and who does it belong too...

#6-A New Update on CEO Daniel Chattin "The Double Minded Dealer"

NEWS FLASH JUST IN on CEO Daniel Chattin... WHAT A CHARATER THIS GUY IS... Check out this time line...
By the way if Daniel wishes to deny any of this my Home Office for security purposes is wired for video and sound
24/7 and everything that happened in my home office was video taped... so if he needs to be reminded of our
4 hour conversation he can hear it again...

a) Monday 6/5/2006 4PM - First meeting Dan Chattin walks in to the OMSTAR D-1280x Lawyers office and tries to convince
OMSTAR Ownership to work with 4-Ecorp and pleads for them not to put 4-Ecorp out of business. Dan also tries to stop the sale
of OMSTAR... Dan is asked by the OMSTAR stock holders to leave the premises... Before leaving he pleads with the new buyer
not to do this since he has two children and a $33,000 a month over head... and that he was totally deceived by Dan A and Shane M....

b) Wednesday Night 6/7/2006 - Dan shows up at the OMSTAR Warehouse - Office in LA and talks with Richard Skaggs for hours and says
That he knows that OMSTAR is The Real Deal and that he knows Enrique is a LIAR... and that he has hired a PR firm along with Good Attorneys...
to protect himself and that he wanted to be on the OMSTAR Team as it's NEW CEO... for The MLM Division... he just needed a few days...
OMSTAR says look any deal you need to make you need to make with our new FLORIDA Partners... He agreed to fly out to Florida ASAP...

c) Thursday 6/8/2006 Dan Chattin took a tour of The Blending Plant for D-1280X OMSTAR Product... he was like a kid skipping through The
200,000 Square Foot Plant... He was truly excited... He wanted to be CEO so bad of The OMSTAR MLM Division... he was feeling some
serious security here... He had nothing good to say about Enrique... In FACT JUST THE OPPOSITE...

d) Saturday Morning Dan Chattin arrives in FL... and spends hours at our home... convinced my wife and I that he would be a GREAT CEO...
after hours and hours... we drove him back to The Marriot Harbor Beach Hotel in Fort Lauderdale...

e) Sunday Dan Chattin cuts his deal... #1) $360,000 ($30,000 Monthly) draw against 5% of commercial sales this was estimated at
$2,000,000 dollars minimum... #2) we gave him the idea of an MLM Mortgage Lead Program and that we would pay all his OFFICE and
help expenses up to $35,000 a month... The office by the way is the present 4-Ecorp office and they were to be evicted within days...
The only item left up in the air... was he wanted a % of MLM Retail Sales and we could not agree on 1/4% to 1% but we left it that
We HAD A DEAL and that he would trust us to do the right thing with the MLM Retail %...

THE RESIGNATION PLAN.... It went from sending an e-mail to everyone while they were at the Monday Meeting in San Diego but Dan felt that would
leave him wide open for a law suit... SO DAN's FINAL PLAN WAS... Dan shows up at the MONDAY meeting and hands everyone his card and gets
their number... NEXT Dan exposes Enrique and will stand up in front of everyone and resign... or two days later tell everyone that he resigned in an
e-mail and that he has chosen to be the CEO of The MLM company that markets D-1280X... Dan asked as he was getting on the plane if we could
put what we discussed in an e-mail and send it to him... so we did as an offer... but Dan already shook hands on it... we made the e-mail look like an offer...


Subj: Mr Daniel Chattin there is a rumor going around
Date: 6/11/2006 7:24:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time


CC: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]


Mr Daniel Chattin there is a rumor going around that you may not be happy with your current company... if you were to resign we here at aaTCM would like to make you the following offer...

a) come on as our CEO

b) we will give you a $360,000 a year draw ($30,000 Monthly) against 5% of the gross revenues of our Commercial Division for the sale of 55 Gallon Drums.

c) in addition we would like to partner up with you in your current mortgage business after we can see the books. we would take over expenses of up to $35,000 monthly in return for 50% of the profits... neither of us will take a salary and any other person's salary would have to be 100% needed on the team and agreed by both of us.

e) TMC we will pay up to 45% commissions out to the mortgage sales reps and then pay aaTCM back the $35,000 thereafter we will split all profits... aaTCM will also be paid $2250 per lead that turns into an actual Mortgage which will be paid out as follows $1000 to the person who finds the deal, plus $250 per level paid 4 levels and $250 for aaTCM...

These are some of the points to talk about if you choose to leave your current position with 4E corp...

If you choose to take us up on this offer we are prepared to start the total of $65,000 monthly in July 2006

Please call me to further any discussion of this email
If we are wrong about the rumors forgive us for being so bold to ask you to come over to our team....


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END OF E-MAIL
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WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPEN... before Dan arrived in Florida only TWO 4-Ecorp Leaders (after swearing on their children that they would not let this TOP SECRET Meeting be known) was told that Dan was coming to Florida and would possibly become The New CEO of The MLM Company to market D-1280X... However when Dan arrived at the Monday Meeting many people came up to him and said Heard you are resigning... One of these two leaders must have talked and since only one will not take my calls I know who it was... So Dan was discouraged and did not resign on the spot or 2 days later as planned and called Mr. Garland Today (June 14th, 2006) to say he was disappointed that we could not keep our BIG MOUTH shut about the private deal... so he is reluctantly staying with 4-Ecorp... AND WE WISH HIM AND HIS FAMILY WELL

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It is only a matter of time before the STATE INVESTIGATES
And when they see NO EPA approved LAB TESTING...
When they see some testing where the EMISSIONS CLIMBED...
There Ethos and 4-Ecorp World will come tumbling down....

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So what in Phil Piccolo going to do...

a) I am going to the bank and charging my $399.00 e-check back since someone told me I can do that within 60 days...
and they said that there are 87 reasons why their type of e-check that they accepted can be charged back...

b) I am going to send back every bit of my Ethos Product...

c) I am going to a Lawyer to find out what I can do in case there is damage to my Cars and Yacht...

d) And I am going to tell everyone in my downline what has happened in the past 10 days...

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#7 Phil Piccolo has ALWAYS worked "PRODUCT DRIVEN ROGRAMS"

by the way what is Phil Piccolo's track record anyway
Successful Amway distributor
Successful Fund America Distributor
Successful California Trim Distributor
Successful Network 2000 Distributor
Successful Rexal Distributor
Successful Nutrition For Life Distributor
Successful Refereveryone Founder and not one person lost a penny
Successful OneQuest Distributor only a distributor
Successful Power Health Distributor
Successful BankMLM Founder and not one person lost a penny
Successful Magic Shower Founder and not one person lost a penny
Sold over 10 million dollars wholesale to MLM Companies
As for TPP I only came in at the end after putting $65,000 of my funds in the program.
and ended up putting in over $500,000 of my own money in and losing it...
Successful 4-Ecorp Distributor UNTIL I RESIGNED
Successful aaTCM Distributor

But one loser named Bob Burtis a broke musician from the state of Minnesota screams SCAM ARTIST...
And it was all for standing up for a man named Jim Forbair who Bob Burtis hated...
Jim Fobair is one of the best men I know and I consider it an honor to call him a friend...
Whereas Bob Burtis has gone Bankrupt TWICE wiping out MILLIONS of DOLLARS in Debt...
This man condemns anything and anyone major league successful in MLM...
I personally teamed up with another good friend of mine Adam Gilmer and helped him
Get an 8 Million Dollar Judgement against Mr Burtis and Burtis just wiped it out in Bankruptcy
I will never understand how a Broke Person who never helped any one earn anything can
SCREAM about so many GOOD PEOPLE and others LISTEN....

Now i understand how a handful of people yelled out Crucify HIM and they did....

If anyone has a personal complaint about me in any way
whereas I hurt you some how in this industry...
e-mail me and send me the story...
I always make good on everything to everyone

[email protected]


#8 Phil Piccolo will join Rick Garland (4-Ecorp's Original President) and
Build The Largest Downline in The History of The MLM World... AGAIN

By the way my purpose of this e-mail was not to expose you to any other program...
But I did not want to tear down your world without offering you something to go to...
Believe me I do not need to PERSONALLY SPONSOR anyone else...
If you do want to work with people of integrity and with A REAL PRODUCT...
Than come join the fastest growing team in The World...

You should first go to YOUR SPONSOR and give them a chance to sponsor you...
But if they say they need to think about it for even 10 minutes...
you would lose at least 5 people in those 10 minutes...
So tell your upline they have about 90 seconds to think about it or you are going direct...

IF YOU JOIN MY TEAM... I PROMISE YOU THOUSANDS of People in your...
POWER LEG... By TUESDAY... Take me up on it... It's FREE TO JOIN....

#9 Join Phil Piccolo an MLM ICON in The MLM Industry
I promise you 1000 people a day in your Power Leg...
www.***********
PS: I have convinced the company that anyone who comes over from 4-Ecorp To Grand Father them in at The Bronze Level with their 1st order of anything.

#10 Contact Phil Piccolo
Phil has lived in the same area for over 20 years and has had the same e-mail address for 10 years. We are a tithing Christian Family. We have attended the same Church for almost 18 years. Phil has many people who Love him and a few who don't... Upon close inspection you would find someone who has help out so many in need and a person who is a Great Friend to many...

Hey all


Oh give me a break! How cares about the MLM business aspect. All that matters is if the product works! NOT ONCE did I see a complaint about the product in all this long diatribe!.....

Thanks Pippyman, I have stated all this in the 5000.00 aweek thread. That this dude is just pissed, hehe. But I have even found out more lies that he him self has created just in this spamming data base that he has used to blind people for his own BS. hehehehehehehhehe

Hmmm, I had this in my email as a downliner of Phil Piccolo and what he tries to get across.... well, it is EVERYMAN to himself on this. Just like, when you bought or is still deciding to purchase your next gas guzzler... YOU DECIDE it, not the Bank or your granny but YOU...so here goes, YOU DECIDE whats best to know before you decide what's good for your $$$s....alright?

Incidentally, I am filling out a form for a chargeback on 3 occassions by this dude, this CEO as he poses and signs on his campaigning drive sent out to people like me for instance, but never ever answered my mail queries I sent him. The CitiBank asked me too, to submit and file it as a formality so this dude Joe Sauceda ain't scooting off with my monthly autoship bucks into his Buick either...

THIS IS NOT SPAM - But communication to my downine... if you do not wish to receive my updates p= lease remove yourself by the following directions at the bottom of this ema il

PLEASE PAS S THIS ON TO EVERYONE ON YOUR TEAM : 06/16/2006<4-Ecorp "P roof of SCAM">
Caller Capability 7 PM Easte rn or 4 PM Pacific
Conference call lines: 212-990-8000 or 646-519-5860
If you can not get on one try the other...

There will be a 5000 line conference call today to pu t an end to the double talking 4-Ecorp Management Team... On this call there will be undeniable proof of everything that has been said about Enrique, Shane McGuire, Dan Atkinson and Daniel Chattin

From Dan Atkinson Vice President of 4-Ecorp Called Phil Piccolo at His Home and on Speaker Phone in front of Witnesses said Quote "Phil Piccolo, you are A Dead Man"

HUNDREDS of you have e-mailed Phil Piccolo to inquire a Class Action Law Suit against Enrique and his so called $150,000,000 a year business, 4-Ecorp and there $100,000 a month
Management Earners... we are seeking legal answers for you from a very prominent Law Firm...
If you wish to be updated on such Legal Information once we find it out e-mail [email protected]
and put in the subject line CLASS ACTION SUIT...

OH did you hear THE RUMOR that bottles are EXPLODING IN THE HEAT...That should be fun with JULY and AUGUST coming up...


We have100's of complaints that 4-Ecorp took 2 check drafts from peoples accounts
They took a $399 check for the product and on their own decided if a person paid check number 428 for $399 they could just draft 428A for $25 with no permission

Next issue is WHERE IS MY PRODUCT
Paid in APRIL - NO PRODUCTS YET
Paid in 1st week of May - NO PRODUCTS YET

WOW... all this name calling...

All Phil Piccolo did was put together an e-mail that took two days to write...
Went over it... got the time lines... prayed about it... made sure to = read it many times to make sure all was true... Then he pressed send...

Today's Series of Events 6/15/2006

First: Dan Chattin calls and says Phil Piccolo ruined him.

Quote:
"My partners never knew I was coming out to Florida... I am ruined"
Next: Dan Atkinson Quote "Phil Piccolo how stupid a man are you -"You are a DEAD MAN - Watch Your Back"

Next: On their conference calls they slammed Phil Piccolo and they are sending out old garbage that one broke musician from Minnesota who has gone Bankrupt
twice and wiped out an 8 million dollar slander Judgement that has said bad things about every single Million Dollar Earner in Network Marketing History...

This one BROKE MUSICIAN has called Phil Piccolo The one man Internet= Crime Machine.
However does not show any evidence of the accusations...
Plus he has a disclaimer on his site that says this is all in Parody...

LOOK Phil is no saint and has made mistakes and this is not one of them...
This is not about Phil Piccolo and his Good or Bad reputation.
This is about 15,000 people buying a product that we have all been deceived about.
We have been deceived about the TESTING, Deceived about Enrique, Deceived about 4-Ecorp
Management and Deceived about The Compensation Plan which got changed after 30,000 people got in to give 4-Ecorp more Breakage...

This is not about competition from another company...
aaTCM has grown way past the success of 4-Ecorp prior to any and all of this happening...
Phil has earned more in the last 5 weeks than 4-Ecorp has paid out to their whole company... Phil did not do this to sponsor more people...

Next: Daniel Chattin tells his best friend Rick Garland he is going to The FBI because Phil Piccolo mentioned concrete shoes. And he now fears for his life....

Now let's check out this scene in Dan Chattin's life...
Phil Piccolo is driving Dan back to the airport and Rick Garland is on Phil's speaker phone in the car.
Phil tells Rick to congratulate Dan since he has accepted the CEO position and shook hands on it.
At the same time Phil's cell phone rings and it is Richard Skaggs the President of OMSTAR D-1280X and Phil excitingly tells Richard we have a NEW CEO... With Richard and Rick both on Speaker Phones.
Richard Skaggs says congratulations is it all a done deal... Phil responds yes it is 100%...
Richard says so we have a concrete deal and Phil says yep... concrete deal or concrete shoes...
and EVERYONE LAUGHED... Dan, Phil, Richard and Rick all joking and lau= ghing...

Now we here Dan Chattin is filing an FBI Report because he is scared o= f what Phil Piccolo will do now that he has not accepted the CEO Position... Quote to Rick... I am in fear for my life... don't you remember what Phil said about CONCRETE SHOES... I need to file a complaint with my brother-in-law who is an FBI Agent...

Maybe Dan Chattin should remind the FBI of who he is in reference to the situation... with some Indian Tribe being defrauded of Millions... Rumor has it that he was or still is part of some kind of FBI investig= ation...

OK... HERE IS THE BOTTOM LINE:

Enrique if you have Test from EPA APPROVED LABS
which is right on the front of your new site for 4-Ecorp
JUST show us the proof on your Website

If you went to Harvard as was claimed and got a DEGREE, put it on the Website... Did you now say at the meeting it
was in Economics or was it in HOME ECONOMICS..
Like a Cooking class...

Dan Atkinson just produce copies of your last 6 months checks and put them on the website. Your CORPORATE BROCURE says you have earned $100,000 a month...Stop talking about Phil Piccolo and
JUST SHOW US THE MONEY...

Dan is The Cadillac Escalade you are driving belong to Daniel Chattin =
JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION Mr Corporate Brocure $100,000 a month EARNER for 20 YEARS...

Daniel Chattin just show how much of the ALMOST 6 MILLION dollars went to COMMISSIONS... you all say more than 50%... Just PROVE IT
Daniel, Shane and Dan did you=A0take $100,000 each out when HALF THE PEOPLE did not even get their PRODUCTS YET... YES OR NO....

PLEASE EVERYONE THIS IS NOT ABOUT Phil PICCOLO
He does not have 15,000 or so orders of YOUR MONEY... He has not done the conference calls and listed 10 GREAT REASONS to Join 4-E of which 9 cannot be proven He did not just take in SIX MILLION DOLLARS OF YOUR MONEY and in MANY CASES NOT DELIVER THE PRODUCT...

We are sure that Florida, Texas, California and Michigan State Attorneys Office would love to hear about another Gas Additive Company that is taking money and not delivering the products for most as of yet...

Please if you have any information about any of these men now or in past
dealings please send it to d1280x@ms= n.com
put in the subject line INFORMATION

If your check has been cashed and it has been weeks with no product please send it to [email protected]= put in the subject line NO PRODUCT

If you were one of the people who got two checks out of your account like my 77 year old mom without her permission please send it to [email protected]put in the subject line CHECK FRAUD

4E Team members:

I know it is Fathers day weekend and you are spending well deserved time with your families, so I will make this short and to the point.

Many of you have received emails from a group of people making outlandish statements and claims, all on the coat tails of 4E/Ethos Environmental and your hard work. STAY the course as you will soon see for yourself that you have made the right choice to be a part of 4E. Isn't it interesting that after all these years that Ethos Environmental has been manufacturing and distributing EthosFR around the world successfully and without challenge; it is only now after 90 thousand 4E folks come along and guess what, the thieves come out of the woodwork to steal your dreams away because they don't have the ability to create their own.

To put your mind at ease, your banking data is secure and intact. It was not compromised by these gentlemen as we have a double fire walled, Linux system protecting that data. Even thought many of you have in fact received an email from this rogue group, most did not! There are other ways for internet marketing unprofessionals to get your email info. However, 4E and Ethos Environmental are right now jointly taking, (to fullest extent of the law with a bank of attorneys), all steps necessary to protect you and 4E and yes; it is a Federal offense to infiltrate an email database since it is tantamount to stealing.

More slander to come from these people I'm sure, but they will only be feeding our legal team valuable information to put these guys in jail. Believe me when I say this to you folks, I have been friends with Enrique for years and can tell you unequivocally that he has the financial might and wherewithal to bury this guy and his henchmen deep from where they came.

It is our hope that you will continue to have confidence in us as we will deliver that which we have promised. In speaking to Enrique yesterday, not only will he be completely caught up with shipping in two days, he will begin building inventory from the new plant Wednesday.

Have a great weekend.

Onward and Upward

Shane Maguire

President, 4E Corporation

Tommy,

Ok

The phil piccolo guy - he is a "you know what" - google his name and see his history. i've been scammed by him once before and i won't do anything he is in. Yah i was on that call as well, i recorded it and sent it in to the 4-ecorp people, i can't belive the blantant lies that were told on that call i am very upset...

Rick used to be the president or somethign in 4-ecorp, until shane realized what they had done. then they bought rick out and gave him a few spots in the binary....

Joel - I talked to him in San Diego, I am very upset with him because he sent out emails to people telling htem to leave their spots in 4-ecorp and join underneath him. he claims that he didn't send those out emails to his group and it was phil piccolo that sent them out... so i don't know who to believe about it...

Matt


On 6/18/06, Tommy Styles <xxxxxemail adrressxxxx> wrote:


Thanks Matt but I will be in Florida with Frutavida for that convention. I really appreciate your opinion of me. Your Autoship in Frutavida is off.

Btw what are your thought on the idoit that is having a cat fight with Dan and Shane, he is spamming the Hell out of my Team in 4-E. I sent him a email saying I was going to sue him and testify to the lies that he himself is saying. I also attended his phone call that was set up and heard Rick Garland Teaming agaianst 4-E as if he was one of the 4 in the E hehe., plus I also know Joel Suceda and he is in that AAturbo thing from the beginning. Just your thoughts.

hehe,
Tommy

Originally Posted by pinetree

I just receieved an e-mail warning,

I got that SPAM e-mail too

ETHOS FR is NOT a SCAM, it works

Much earlier today I was hesitant to change my ETHOS sig.
here on the Forum & other forums,
Because it sounds too good, too unbelievable.
Well... The 99 Toyota Tacoma pick-up is my Hubby's
and I'm here totell ya, He was the biggest skeptic. DANG!
I'd get so irritated,anything I'd say, he'd come back w/ a negative.
Soooo, his 1st tank he mentioned he was saving.
But then after his second tank. He told me he saved 25%!!
he admitted he was surprized and did not expect it.
I admit, I did not expect 25%, even though I know many are getting such good results.
So before any of you let a SPAM email convince you, or Engineers even making
statements that haven't even tried Ethos. Or even my word for it. You NEED to TRY it YOUR SELF.
And I know 4-E was/is slow getting going, and esp. getting International

shipping and banking set-up. I believe in 4-e, I know ETHOS works.
I truly feel- Not a Scam
.
OH, and as for it being Quote "MLM marketing scheme"
*a scheme has no real product
*Many, many very solid reputable Co. are MLMs
*How do you think all those Mary Kay Distributors
got thier Pink Cadillacs?

ETHOS-FR TESTIMONIALS SENT IN TO 4E WEBSITE

Real People, Real Results


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Hello Everybody

This is a testimony from myself, David Cochrane, in regards to Ethos FR a
fuel reformulator soon to come here from San Diego USA.

Upon hearing that I was to get a demonstration bottle I tested my car
with a mixture of town and country running and worked out the car was
doing an average of 11.1 km/hr.

I then added 150ml (5oz) of Ethos FR to the motor and 60ml (2oz) to the
first tank full of petrol.

I then did a further 415 km and topped up in Tinwald yesterday (Sat 3
June). It took 35ltrs which worked out to an increase to 11.85 km/ltr.

We then spent the rest of the day around Christchurch cruising from place
to place and then eventually back to Timaru. I then filled up today
(sunday) topping up with 21.59 ltr. The tripmeter showed we had done 295
km since filling up at Tinwald. A rate of 13.66 km/ltr or an increase of
2.56 km/ltr since starting the trial.

This amounts to an increased saving of approx 23%. This is considerably
more than the Companies claim of 7-19% fuel savings.

Doubtless you will understand that we are over the moon about the initial
success of the product and happy with the extra 100 odd km we get out of
each tank full.

It appears that the first tank full has a cleaning action and it may take
several tank fulls to get the full effect of how good this product is.

Thank you

David & Yvonne - New Zealand

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Allen & Kay McKenzie 9 – O.R.D.

Oamaru.

Ph 021 662 387

Our Ethos FR test results – 07/06/2006

20 ton Tip Truck – N series Ford (Hino) model 3222 , 1990 year.

We have always kept a record of our fuel mileage ; eg May 16, 2006 Km’s travelled 440, diesel fuel used 172.87 Litres = 2.54 km’s per litre.

May 23, 2006 Km’s travelled 427, diesel fuel used 172.5 Litres = 2.47 km’s per Litre.

May 24th Added 2x12 oz or 375 ml bottles of Ethos FR to crankcase of engine.

Also 1x12 oz / 375 ml bottle of Ethos FR to 180 Litres of Diesel fuel.

We warmed up the engine for about 8 to 10 minutes before pouring in the Ethos in. As Kay & I stood talking beside the engine, while the truck cab was still tilted forward the engine change it’s tone as the Ethos circulated. The engine was very definitely quieter, the harshness went from the exhaust note.

After loading and leaving the sawmill we contract cart for out on the main road our first obstacle is a good pull from a standing start up the Herbert Hill. I was surprised to see a lot less exhaust diesel black smoke on the hill, the truck was already running better, I was driving for four hours that day and it was running sweeter by my return home.

June 7th , After 404 Km’s Fuel Used was 138.00 Litres

WOW, that’s 2.927 Km’s per Litre. 2.927- 2.5

Previous test’s 2.54 & 2.47 Ks Per Litre – AV = 2.5 = .427 of a km per Litre

That’s a FUEL INCREASE OF 17.09% on the first tank , with less exhaust

Smoke and More Power. That say’s it all for me, try it, you too will smile.

If I do 20,000 Km’s in one year I will use 8000 Litres of diesel ………………..

8000 x .427 metres = == 3416 extra km’s for the same amount of fuel

I think people will take notice now , HAVE YOU ???

HAPPY SAVINGS
Kay & Allen McKenzie. New Zealand


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Wow! 30.6 MPG Average

Wow is all I can say! I just arrived in Nashua, New Hampshire, a 372 mile trip, I checked my trip computer and it said 30.6 MPG. During the trip on the highway portion, I was averaging 31.5 MPG. In fact I was so amazed, I called Shane Maguire while driving to tell him how exicted I was. I drive a 2005.5 Audi A4 with a 3.2L V6. The car has about 13,000 miles on it now and was new in January 2006. I have been using Ethos FR in the car for the past 4,000 miles. The window sticker said 18 mpg city and 26 mpg highway. Before Ethos I used to get an average of 25 mpg on the highway and closer to 20 mpg in the city, using 93 octane. Now I get better gas mileage and I save 20 cents per gallon by using 87 octane instead of 93 octane.

I even brought a bottle of Ethos FR to the Audi Dealership and asked them if I could put this in my car. I wanted to leave it with the service manager. Well they wouldn't let me leave it there, but the service technician I talked to said "go ahead and put it in, it doesn't look like it can hurt anything".

I am so excited about these results! I will share more results from future trips.

Have a Wonderful Day!

Matt Ellsworth


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Jonathan Millsap

2001 Chevy Express Van

My 01 Express Van is a work truck (I\'m a locksmith in North Texas/DFW) with 147,567 miles on it. I always averaged between 13 & 14 MPG <depending on the season summer/winter>. I just finished my 4th tank with Ethos FR and have watched the increase.

My last MPG before using Ethos was 13.0 MPG.

My first tank computed to 13.3 MPG

2nd tank..............13.9

3rd tank...............14.8

4th tank...............15.2 >>>>>>>>>THAT IS A 16.9% increase!!!

I am now 100% sold on Ethos FR!

I added 5oz in the oil and 2oz pre 10gal on first tank, 1oz per 10gal on 2,3,4 tanks.

On the first tank I instantly noticed a difference in the way my van ran... but was unimpressed with the MPG. I decided to keep trying it, it kept running better and the MPG increased to 13.9. Halfway though the 3rd tank I started getting excited.... and was extremly happy with 14.8. I have to say I was blown away with the results of the 4th tank.

I'm in North Texas where it is upper 90s and high humidity, using my A/C - sometimes on MAX/HIGH, which kills your MPG.

THANK YOU ETHOS AND 4E!

Jon Millsap 6/20/2006 3:15:02 PM


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BERT TURNER

2004 Kia Optima

Friday, May 26, 2006

Hey Everyone!

My Ethos-FR arrived today, just as the UPS e-mail promised. I immediately got my oil changed and added 5oz of Ethos-FR.

Then I filled up the tank with Regular 87 Octane and added 4oz of Ethos-FR. (Tank Capacity is 17 Gallons) I normally use the Middle Grade 89 Octane. Saved myself .10 cents a gallon right there. ($2.89 vs $2.99)

At the first stoplight after leaving the gasoline station I noticed that I could barely feel or hear the engine while waiting for it to turn green. Even more impressive, the water inside the bottle that I had in the middle console was dead still, with the car in gear and my foot on the brake while waiting for the light to change. That is amazing!

I'll report back on the change in mileage after this tank is exhausted. Right now, the car is getting 16.2mpg, mixed city/hwy. But I must say that with less than 2 miles since adding Ethos, I\'m already impressed with just the calmness of the engine.

It\'s better than when the car was brand spankin new.

Wednesday, May 31, 2006

As of today, I have driven 241 miles with Ethos-FR in the Gas, Oil and Transmission for the first time. My mileage has increased so dramatically that I had to triple check the numbers in my log book. I\'m now up to 26.2mpg mixed hwy/city driving!!!

This car is only 2 years old, but I\'ve never been able to drive more than 155 miles on a half tank of gas..even when using Premium. This morning, my Kia passed the 207 mile mark before the needle left the 1/2 full mark on Regular 87 Octane fuel with Ethos-FR in the tank!! I\'m running out of superlatives for this product folks. My car is now getting 10.1 more miles from every gallon of gas, which equates to a 61% increase in gas mileage, which is like paying $1.12 a gallon instead of the $2.89 pump price, which is like saving $1.77 a gallon! A 12oz bottle of Ethos-FR treats 120 gallons of gas, which means that my $17 dollar investment (incl. shipping) in a bottle of Ethos-FR returns $212 in Gasoline Savings!!! Plus, I don\'t have to buy Mid-Grade gas, which saves an additional 10 cents a gallon. I am stunned...

In a different thread, I'll report on our trip this past Memorial Day weekend in the Wife's Ethos-Treated Honda Odyssey Van.

It's running better than new too!

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Sue Wall

Better Gas Mileage and Stopped my 'rear main seal leak'!

Hi, I'm so happy with Ethos FR. The day I received mine, April 3, 2006, I went to have my oil changed at Econo Lube. They came out of the pit and told me I had a 'rear main seal leak'. I told them I just got a brand new product in UPS today and I said "I think this stuff is supposed to, I think, kinda stop leaks too. He laughed at me. But I said "would you work with me on this and help me check it out and see if it might, or really does." He said 'no problem'. So he poured 5 oz. in the gas tank, 4 oz. in the crankcase, and 2 oz. in the transmission fluid. Then he told me to go get it steam cleaned and come back and he would check it for leaks. I said, "o.k., I'll get it steam cleaned tomorrow and I'll be back here tomorrow eve. He said,

"oh no no no no, it is a slow leak and you need to wait a few weeks at least so I can really know for sure if the leak has stopped. I was back in there in 3 weeks ( I was anxious), he said for me to just wait for my next oil change. I did, so on June 8th, 2 months later, and 2700 miles later, I went back. They changed the oil and came up and said it was dry as a bone, there were no leaks now. I was estactic and asked him if he would document it. He said they don\'t usually document when there is NO leaks, only when there was one. But he said he could and he went ahead and did so. Now I have documentation on the invoice for a rear main seal leak and then documentation on the 2nd invoice where there is not any leaks now. Mileage, date, all pertinent info is on both invoices and I have lamenated them. They look like place mats. I use it with my testimony and people love seeing them.

Just wanted to share this with you and to again say thanks! I also am getting 100 miles more on a tank of gas, thanks!

Sue Wall 6/20/2006 3:32:17 PM


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Randall Barnett Drove '96 NIssan Pathfinder 1800 miles to Massachusetts

Mileage improved between 2 and 4 mpg, depending on driving conditions. 6/20/2006 3:42:55 PM


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Terri Booth Executive Director I have used this product on 2 major trips to Florida and Atlanta. On our last trip to Atlanta, GA from Hurricane, WV, we drove 412 miles on a tank of gasoline. We put 5 ounces in the crankcase with a fresh oil change and 4 ounces in the gas tank.

Prior to using the product we were getting no more than 320 miles per tank of gas on a 2004 GMC Sierra 4x4.

That is a 4.2 mpg increase. Based on a chart that was shared with me from Woody, that equates to about $580 yearly savings in gas.

The truck runs much smoother.

I\'m impressed and here to stay!

Awesome product, awesome company. 6/20/2006 5:27:54 PM


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Steve Fillmore Executive

Hi Everyone,

I am most pleased with the entire operation of Ethos and the product!!!! The product has saved me initially 8.256% on my gas. That is about a .30 savings per fill up at the gas station! About $800 per year in savings !!!! There was an immediate improvement in performance of my vehicle. By the way I own a 1999 Mercury Sable. I received my product shipment on time with no delays. All bottles of product arrived intact and there was no damage.

**One thing I noticed that was very professional about this company is its emails. As simple as it seems, but if you look at the emails, they are very professional in appearance and don't say EGO all over them.

An email that uses caps, bold and bright colors just says that the sender has a huge EGO.

That you 4 ecorp for being professional and Ethical.

Steve Fillmore Minnesota 6/20/2006 5:58:14 PM


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Danny Osborne - I received my Ethos FR and it is great. I went from 26 mpg on my 2005 Ford Tarus to 30.2 mpg on my third tank. This is a wonderful product and opportunity.

Thanks

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david louis - so exited i have save 20%on my nissan titan I also have aF-150 larsita which save16% but most exiting thing is i finally share with all my family not woring if the protucd would work or not thank you ETHOS 6/20/2006 7:33:50 PM


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Clint Anderson - I received my ethos last night (5/31/06) and decided that I wasn't going to wait. I went up to the gas station, topped off my tank, added about 10 oz to my 40 gal tank, 5 oz to my oil and 5 oz to my transmission. As you can see by the pic that I attached, I drive a 2000 Ford Excursion with about a 5 inch left. I have been getting (according to the on board computer) 11.0 miles per gallon. I left the gas station and headed for a stretch of road that is pretty deserted in the evenings. I got upto 55 mph and stayed there for 5 miles. I was totally in shock and happy as I have ever been about a product. As I cruised down the road I watched as my on board computer turned like a clock 11.0 to 11.1 to 11.2 all the way up to 15.4 in just 5 miles. When I arrived home and turned of the motor I had gone 11.3 miles and was sitting at 15.3 miles per gallon. The bottom line is that I gained 4 miles per gallon that is 160 extra miles per tank. An extra approx 8 or 9 gals of gas times $3 plus per gallon. About $24 to $30 savings. Needless to say I am excited about this and can\'t say enough about Ethos.

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Barb Sebastian Great product with many uses
Our '93 Lincoln towncar, '96 Jeep Cherokee and '99 Expedition have all gained from 2.4 to 4.2 miles per gallon and all run smooth and feel great. Emissions are almost nothing. My stainless steel refrigerator doors are beautiful and show no markings or spots at all. My 6 year old stainless steel sink and 3 water distillers are like new after 3 days and showing no spots and my screen door doesn't squeak anymore. My hummingbird feeder has no more red ants after putting Ethos on the deck railing and on the string tied to it to keep the wind from blowing it. My husband has gone over to sell a qt. to a man that wants to see if it will work on his weapons to store them. He also wants to try it on his coin collection to protect them. Amazing product!! Will keep you posted. Using Ethos will replace some of the other products that are toxic to do these jobs and dangerous to use. At least if a child or animal gets into it , it most likely won\'t hurt them like others on the market. Let's make money!!! 6/20/2006 8:30:17 PM


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Joel Buchfeller - We just completed a 1800 mile trip which included a visit to the office in Roseville. Our mileage before the trip was 25.3 mpg and an average for the trip was 34.4 mpg, an increase of 9.1 mpg or a 36% increase. Joel 6/20/2006 9:37:51 PM


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Robert Canner

My 98 Ford Exploer EthosFR mileage report

Last Friday, May 19, I filled my 20.8 gallon 1998 Ford Explorer fuel tank with 18 gallons

REGULAR unleaded at $2.69 per gallon. I waited until the fuel warning light came on for test purposes.

I also added 7 ounces of EthosFR to the tank at the same time.

I normally use premium unleaded ($2.89 that day) to prevent transmission strain and engine knocking in my 142,000 mile drive train. My usual exhaust emissions are below normal.

(See emissions improvement with NOX data below)

The Explorer ran with continuous power, no straining transmission or engine knocking, even on hills. Yesterday May 22 my fuel tank warning light stayed on at 353 miles, so I refilled the tank with another 18 gallons. The light normally comes on between 310-330 miles for the last three years that I have owned this vehicle. This was an increase of 33 miles from normal, or about 10 %.

My driving is a normal 50/50 combination of expressway and regular stop and go conditions. If I combine the savings of 20 cents from Premium to Regular, or 7%, with the 10 % mileage improvement, that totals the savings at close to 17%, within the suggested range of 7-19% savings with gas powered vehicles.

Robert Canner 6/20/2006 10:02:46 PM


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Steven Shover Sr

What I have seen using Ethos FR

Here is the savings I have personally seen. In my 93 Toyota truck the first tank got a 10% increase in gas mileage. On the second tank I got a 12% increase (over $.36 per gal.) and my old truck is running better than it ever has. On my wife’s 2001 Subaru she got a 11% increase on her first tank and now she is getting 24.7% increase( over $.60 per gal.) . And in my sons 2003 Ford Focus SVT and a friend Dodge truck they both got 42% increase (that’s over $1.00 per gal.) [my son starting out he was getting 19 miles per gal. without Ethos FR and now is getting 27 miles per gal my friend started at 14 MPG after Ethos 20 MPG ] And also in my brothers 1997 Escort he got 16.875% increase ( over $.48 per gal.)in gas mileage. My dad just tried Ethos for his first time and received an 8% increase which means about 22 cents savings per gal. My uncle drive a 1999 Ford Taurus and is on his 3rd tank with ethos and has an 15% increase he went from 27 MPG to 31.1 MPG which is a 41 cents per gal savings. 6/21/2006 6:16:21 AM


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Art F. Ledezma

'86 Pontiac\'s True Colors - I purposely used Ethos FR in an old \'86 Pontiac 6000 LE just to see the results. It\'s never had an overhaul, valve job or any major work on the engine. On Tuesday May 30th 2006 (3 weeks ago) I changed the oil and put 5 ounces of Ethos FR into the crankcase with the new oil. I put another 5 ounces into the transmission oil and still another 5 ounces into the 11 gallons of new regular unleaded gasoline. The daily morning puff of white smoke is gone now and it runs cooler and quieter. A week later I had the motor and transmission mounts replaced and I took it out on the expressway to really test it. I ran it at 85 mph for about 10 minutes. I came back, sat there and let it idle and it didn\'t hear it or feel boil over like it used on hot days, it still sounded quiet and the gas gage needle didn\'t seem to move. It\'s been 3 weeks now and I have not driven it 3 days out of those 3 weeks and the gas gage needle is on 1/4 of a tank. I only wish I could say how many mpg I am getting, but the odometer does not work. I am truly impressed. Wow..! Thanks Good people..! 6/21/2006


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Daniel Kohler Director - I have a 2005 Dodge Dakota that was getting 16.24 mpg, after one bottle (12oz) I went up to 18.19 mpg. My next tank should even be better yet. 6/21/2006 10:13:42 AM


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Rick Boatright I put some Ethos FR in my old 99 pick up truck and drove 160 miles UP the mountain and back, passing people going uphill to make sure I really tested it. I filled up whan I returned and discovered that I\'d gotten an extra 5 MPG! My wife and I noticed that it ran smoother and had more power too. That was an extra 29% in mileage. I was impressed!

Then I put some in my 04 Honda Hybrid. But I only put it in my gas, not the oil too. I got an extra mile per gallon -- better but not by much. Then I decided to follow the directions and put some in the oil too. It gave me an extra 5 MPG on top of the previous one for a total of 6 MPG. A tankful after that, I checked it again and it was up to 8 MPG better! Needless to say, I\'m a customer for life!

Dr. Rick Boatright, 6/21/2006 10:14:16 AM


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Ervin Cox I Got an awesome 23.94% increase in gasoline mileage of my 2002 (V-6) Ford Taurus. Prior to using EthosFR, I was averaging just 18.4 miles-per-gallon while doing my normal commuting. My trip to and from work takes me across the Mississippi River twice each day and the traffic can be really bad.

Following the directions listed on the label, my first tank using EthosFR did not show much improvement. BUT on my second tank I traveled 262.4 miles on just 11.506 gallons of regular gasoline. With paying the $2.889 per gallon of gas, that is a savings of a little over $0.69 per gallon.

I jsut recently had the chance to check the highway milage. Previously, driving on the highway I got about 22.5 mile per gallon (I am know to drive it hard). With EthosFR it went up to 27 miles per gallon for 20 percent increase in mileage.

Obviously, I have every intention of being a long-term, happy user of Ethos FR!! 6/21/2006 11:30:44 AM

Noel Kirk my 1990 subaru went from 25 to 30 miles per gallon after two tanks of gas.not only that the engine is much smoother and has more get up and go! n.r.kirk sonora ca. 6/21/2006 1:09:35 PM


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Anthony Fairchild - I have now used ethosfr for a month, I put 6oz in my crankcase,and 2 oz per ten gallons in my gas tank. then as I fill up, I have 2 oz per ten gallons with gas , for one month. My car is a 2002 Pontiac Grand Am with about 120,000 miles on the odometer. M P G increased a little over 4 miles per gallon, car runs smoother, and there is more power. I can now report that each time I fill up, I KEEP $6.50 to $7.00

in my pocket ,instead of putting it in the gas pump. O U T S T A N D I N G Tony Fairchild. 6/21/2006 1:27:16 PM


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James DiMauro - I have been using this product since the end of May and I sure do see results!!! I have a 1998 Ford Windstar with 101,000 miles. In the last seven years, I averaged 320 miles per tank (20 gallon tank capacity). In my first three tanks, my mileage was:

1st Tank: 369 miles

2nd Tank:387 miles

3rd Tank (yesterday, June 20th): 407 miles

Average: 387 miles/tank

% increase in mileage per tank:20.93 or very close to 21%

I have also noticed that my engine does not \"kick\" anymore when the car is warm and idling at a stop light, YEA!!!!

If I\'m lying, I\'m dying!!!!

My only complaint: I NEED MORE ETHOS FR..., and I would like to see all the facts about our founder and Distributor on the web site, so I can send it to Phil \"you know who\". 6/21/2006 3:46:11 PM


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Gary Thompson -

Hello Gary Thompson Here and I would love to give my test after receiving Ethos FR.

I ordered my product like April 22, 2006 Got product May 25, 2006 You see I waited for my product and it did come, And let me tell you it was well worth the wait...

While I was waiting on the test to my wife car, you know what the instruction say fill up drive for a week and then add Ethos.

Well I went an put Ethos FR in my old broken mower (My Mowing Service) tadd it in the oil and gas, after 3 pulls it fired right up it did throw out a lot of white smoke for about 10 seconds and when it cleared up I notice the smoke did not smell. I was shocked to see it started up. That\'s when I called my wife out and showed her. I told her I believe in this product and wait until I try it in your car.

Gary Thompson TX

Well my next test was my wife 2001 Cavalier after driving regular for one week before using Ethos FR her car gas gauge was 1/4 under half tank of gas left.

So I added Ethos FR to the oil 5oz, to the transmission 2oz, to the power steering a cap full, 2oz to a full tank of gas. By time week ended driving regular my wife had only used 1/4 of a tank of gas.

boy was she happy! The Thompson's is a beleiver in Ethos FR product

If there's any dought out there, you shouldn't but go ahead and test it for yourself. If you don't want to save on gas or have less repair bills on your vehicle, don't bother getting Ethos FR that would mean more for me lol.

I have pictures of before and after using Ethos FR if in dought.Thank You

The Thompson's
Gary & Sandra Thompson 6/21/2006 3:59:10 PM


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david sauls Executive Director - Remarkable product!!

Item #1= \'87 Corvette, before Ethos FR, \'87 Corvette would miss as I approach 65-75 mph, after adding Ethos FR, I can run my \'87 Corvette pass 90+ mph and it does not miss a beat. It is amazing!! This product is just out of this world. Thank you for inviting me into this outstanding organization. 6/21/2006 4:45:08 PM 71.200.2.33


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Wade Swainston - The best mileage I got in the past with my 2005 Colorado pickup was 20MPG. My MPG increased to 23mpg after the first tank. It was 24.2 with the second tank and 27.12 with the third tank of gas. That is over a 35% increase in MPG. At 3.00 a gallon after I pay for my Ethos I am saving 95 cents a gallon.

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WAYNE BRUMLEY - I have a 2005 Toyota Tacoma pick up with 20,000 miles on it. Without the ethos-fr I got 18 mpg. I took a trip to Waco Tx. and put the suggested amount in the tank. I got 20.2 on that tank. Then I put the suggested amount in the oil. I got 22.2 mpg on that tank. Filling up one more time on the way home I put the suggested amount in that tank and got 22.8 mpg. The highest mpg rating the truck was rated for was 22mpg which i never got untill using ETHOS-FR. Thank goodness for a product that delivers like it says.

Wayne Brumley

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Marguerite Davis - Silver Director - I drive a 2001 Dodge Neon with over 145,000 miles on it. I usually get about 27-28 mpg. After I treated my car to Ethos FR in the gas tank only, I noticed the engine started to run more smoothly and I had more power. I have used Ethos FR for about a week now and my mileage has increased to over 30mpg. I told my maintanance man about it and he asked if he could try Ethos FR. I put some in his old truck. The next day he called me to tell me he had the same thing happen to him. His engine ran smoother, he felt an increase in power, and his gas mileage improved. He put Ethos FR into his son\'s car, his girlfriend\'s car, and his mother\'s car.

Now I have a problem, I only have one bottle left. He wants it, but I want it too. I am ordering more. I hope everyone will have the same problem. 6/21/2006 6:54:52 PM


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Judy Block - After a long and frustrating wait for my initial shipment of product to arrive, I have finally received it and been able to use it and analyze, for myself, the results. ASTOUNDING!!!! My partner and I have put ETHOS FR into our 2000 Chevy flatbed, our 1992 GMC pick-up (with 209,000 miles on it already!), our Semi tractor, our Wrecker, our Polaris 6 wheeler, our front end loader, our road grader, our forklift and our 1990 service truck. The results have exceeded our expectations!! In addition to running and shifting more smoothly, we have gained at least a quarter tank extra fuel mileage, and more power in ALL of the vehicles we\'ve added the product to!!! We live in an area of Alaska that does not require emissions testing, but, even so, the lack of black smoke emissions from all of our diesel equipment tells us that emissions have been greatly reduced while performance has been greatly enhanced!!! The ONLY problem I can see with this product so far, has been shipping to Alaska!!! I am in the process of moving to an area in \"Bush\" Alaska that has only the United States Postal Service as a shipping option, but if, as I\'ve read, the product is \"non-petroleum based\" and \"non-hazardous\", the USPS should have NO PROBLEM with sending it through the mail system......correct?????? I pray that\'s the case, because if this stuff can be MAILED, I will NEVER have to worry about not getting it, and I have the potential to sign up HUGE numbers of people while saving my friends and neighbors money AND cleaning up the air!!! ETHOS FR ROCKS!!!!!! 6/21/2006 8:32:40 PM


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Gary Haiser - After three tanks full in our 2005 Mini Cooper we are getting 9 miles more per gallon and that is with regular gas - we used to burn premium. The car runs smoother, has more zip than before and we're thrilled with the savings!

Our Nissan Murano, after two treatments is getting 4 miles more per gallon. 6/21/2006 8:32:53 PM


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James Russell - Immediate improvement in 1992 Miata in shifting, performance and pickup. Expected mileage to reach 40 miles per gallon. 6/21/2006 10:22:07 PM


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Cheryl Emerson - I ordered Ethos FR directly from the manufacturer before signing up with 4e. I recorded my mileage and had an emissions test before using Ethos. My car (a 1992 Chrysler LeBaron) had 211,000 miles on it and lots of blue smoke coming out the tailpipe. I did NOT put ethosfr everywhere I was told, nor did I put the full amount for the first use recommended. I put 4 oz in the gas tank and only one oz in the oil case. After the first tank I recorded my mileage again. I went from 21MPG up to 25MPG (city and highway driving). Then I filled the tank and put ethosin again. I made a trip to Maine, and back on one tank of gas. (all highway) I went directly to the station that did the 1st test on my car and had another emissions test. My emissions went down by 37%, from .79 to .50 for the HC. My mileage increased again and brought the total up to 28.5MPG. And no more blue smoke!! Awesome! I then signed up with 4e. 6/22/2006 2:53:24 PM


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Gregory Small - I attained a 7% fuel efficiency gain after putting the product in the crankcase and fuel of out 1996 Volvo 960.

There was a definite power gain and I am pleased.

Now that I actually have the product, and based on my experience, my neighbors are banging down the door to get the product. 6/22/2006 5:15:28 PM



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Bruce Screaton - I drive a 2005 Dodge Ram, 5.7L Hemi 4X4, HD Pick Up

( I live in Texas, what do you expect?)

Before using EHTOS 10.2 MPG
1st. Tank using EHTOS 11.9 MPG
2nd. Tank using ETHOS 12.2 MPG

YES, it works!! 6/22/2006 7:14:40 PM


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Cole Simon - GREAT PRODUCT - I am very impressed with the results of the product. We have gotten really good results. I also love the overall appearance of the product - it has a very professional look. I will sell this product like crazy! 6/23/2006 12:51:36 AM


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DeaAnna Bruce- 9% for Newspaper Carrier- 585 stops each day! I wanted to let you all know that I am a newspaper carrier and deliver 3 differant Newspapers. Wall Street Journal, USA Today and our local paper here in Ohio. I stop and go 585 times PER DAY delivering. I fill up my gas tank every other morning since I drive approximately 100 miles a day.

I have been keeping track for 1 1/2 weeks and I have gotten a 9% increase. It was only about 7 at first then my husband put it in my crank case. Ooopss forgot to change the oil first ;) Now I am up to 9%. I am going to be getting my oil changed shortly and will see what it does when I put it in fresh oil.

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norm dreher - I used EthosFR for the first time on June 3rd on a trip to Portland,Or., to pick up my wife at the airport. It's 252 miles roundtrip. When on the freeway my average speed was 75-80mph. I did quite a bit of city driving on this trip. When I got home to Newport,Or. I checked my travel information after filling up upon my return and found I had a 12% improvement on my first use of the product. I thought this was great for the first usage. I now have it in the crankcase of both vehicles and I am looking forward to future great savings on fuel and money! Oh, yes, I had the airconditioner on half of the time on the trip to Portland. Norm 6/23/2006 8:41:03 AM