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    Marek,

    Please give all of us HE investors your personal assurance that you will wait before jeopardizing the payout to HE members with any kind of legal intervention ? It is so very close now and to do anything but give Luke the time he must have will ruin it for everyone. Believe me, he wants to pay eveyone off more than you can imagine. Please give us your word Marek.
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    Marek means what he feels like most who would like to see something done, solved and NOT be dragged into continuous uncertainty however, having ommitted the way he expressed, it is to be taken seriously which is also meant to exert pressure which, hopefully, would send the same signals that Luke will receive and apply for his side upon those that is on the other end of his string!

    As little has been heard or communicated between Luke and the key Reps that he has depended upon during the early campaign drive, it appears similarly dressed as what we all went through with our Houdini Cycler experience that eventually unmasked BM's bold attempt yet again under the Barry identity which fooled many unfortunately including yours truly, and I was myself a staunch supporter of that formula until his skin peeled off like a snake beginning to de-scale when the heat closes in...

    Luke, you should have witness and learnt what communication breakdown can do.... even with the NDA in place, you could still exchange with the trusted few unless they too are NOT to be trusted all along...so what went wrong with them? Has MichaelR lost your trust too??

    I sincerely hope all works out well and soon for all involved and depending on your promised commitment brudder, they are taking you on your oath I believe... !


    YB. - cheers to a speedy sight for all that budle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    Marek,

    Please give all of us HE investors your personal assurance that you will wait before jeopardizing the payout to HE members with any kind of legal intervention ? It is so very close now and to do anything but give Luke the time he must have will ruin it for everyone. Believe me, he wants to pay eveyone off more than you can imagine. Please give us your word Marek.
    I agree.Please give us your assurance that you will not do such actions because we believe that Luke did not run away and that he wants payments more than anyone else.Many people's lives will be ruin who have waited patiently this long.


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    Quote Originally Posted by YogiBrood View Post
    Marek means what he feels like most who would like to see something done, solved and NOT be dragged into continuous uncertainty however, having ommitted the way he expressed, it is to be taken seriously which is also meant to exert pressure which, hopefully, would send the same signals that Luke will receive and apply for his side upon those that is on the other end of his string!

    As little has been heard or communicated between Luke and the key Reps that he has depended upon during the early campaign drive, it appears similarly dressed as what we all went through with our Houdini Cycler experience that eventually unmasked BM's bold attempt yet again under the Barry identity which fooled many unfortunately including yours truly, and I was myself a staunch supporter of that formula until his skin peeled off like a snake beginning to de-scale when the heat closes in...

    Luke, you should have witness and learnt what communication breakdown can do.... even with the NDA in place, you could still exchange with the trusted few unless they too are NOT to be trusted all along...so what went wrong with them? Has MichaelR lost your trust too??

    I sincerely hope all works out well and soon for all involved and depending on your promised commitment brudder, they are taking you on your oath I believe... !


    YB. - cheers to a speedy sight for all that budle...

    No Yogi

    Luke has most emphatically NOT lost my trust and even with your propensity for getting the wrong end of the stick I quite fail to understand how you could have drawn that conclusion from my post.

    It is however very EASY to lose peoples trust if you behave like a bull in a china shop.

    Mareks post was at best ill considered and at worst irresponsible.

    You should know by now that no-one needs a loose cannon screwing up their best efforts to achieve a good conclusion for everyone.

    His proposal reminded me of other posts I have seen recently in which people uninvolved in a venture wish to make it their business to attempt to destroy it.

    It is in my humble opinion not the action of a responsible admin of a forum to try to take it upon himself to ignore the wishes of the vast majority of Lukes members who are patiently waitng AND trusting him to do his best for them.

    By posting in this provocative manner Marek has allowed his personal feelings to adversely affect his judgement.

    Perhaps he should reflect on the wisdom of casting the first stone especially while standing in a glass house.

    Better still he could apologise to both Luke and the members of Luke programmes for his hasty and ill-considered remarks

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    it might be that luke is for real. But it has taken more then 6 months since we all invested with him. I dont know if it does take that much time to get funds back from egold. But if he does not soon give us back our money, then i think we all should press charges against him.

    i does not matter what he had at his website. i will take this to the next level for our members, if we dont hear anything soon.

    Do not trust anyone if they were x pipsters or not.
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    Hi Marek, i have been scammed by some of the programs posted in your forum, would you take legal action against them , or not because they pay you for the advertizing?
    At least Luke is making an effort to pay not like the scamms all over this forum

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    As tupac says... "At least Luke is making an effort to pay not like the scamms all over this forum."....

    And I for one am applauding Luke for his integrity and not being like the others. The least we can do is give him some consideration seeing as so many others are saying not much longer...

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    Michael,

    Marek has no reason to apologise nor seek one to explain any, however, he can continue to set aside that gesture/decision and wait like all the rest on the anticipated outcome. Nothing has been undertaken and no one is threatened by any move that has NOT taken place.

    It was a signal that remains retractable or at best, be placed on HOLD but as a Forum Admin, he has his share of the responsibility to feel and act likewise which you may have easily considered as irresponsible, that is your opinion viewed simply from the side. Some may share with your opinion in sharp contrast to many more airing growing agitation as well, so please apply this calming oxidant you confronted Marek, with equal consolation to those repeated outcries for their refunds,I am sure it will go down easily for acceptance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by YogiBrood View Post
    Michael,

    Marek has no reason to apologise nor seek one to explain any, however, he can continue to set aside that gesture/decision and wait like all the rest on the anticipated outcome. Nothing has been undertaken and no one is threatened by any move that has NOT taken place.

    It was a signal that remains retractable or at best, be placed on HOLD but as a Forum Admin, he has his share of the responsibility to feel and act likewise which you may have easily considered as irresponsible, that is your opinion viewed simply from the side. Some may share with your opinion in sharp contrast to many more airing growing agitation as well, so please apply this calming oxidant you confronted Marek, with equal consolation to those repeated outcries for their refunds,I am sure it will go down easily for acceptance.


    YB.


    There you go Yogi 'ol boy Let's everyone then (including Marek) be of good cheer this Christmas season for everyone's sake (especially all those who need it most) and let Luke do what he has to do! Certainly marek, as a future doctor has a heart for people. Not everything in this world we must live in (financial matters and their blessings) are in a single human beings control...And as much an any one person endeavors to do their best, let there be not one iota of doubt it will happen. Luke is a good man, give him the benefit of the doubt.
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    Yogi

    Au contraire!

    then i think we all should press charges against him.

    i does not matter what he had at his website. i will take this to the next level for our members, if we dont hear anything soon.

    Do not trust anyone if they were x pipsters or not.
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    How can that post be interpreted as anything but a personal attack on someone who is not a member here and who will not see the post or be able to defend himself?

    He is exorting the membership to distrust him and inciting them to press charges and THAT is what I think deserves an apology.

    There is also the usual issue of double standards applying.

    Whilst keen to attack Luke behind his back he is not in fact known on past form to go up against anyone who helps to fund this forum by advertising their programmes even if the most elementary DD reveals the probability of failure from the outset.

    It seems to me that in his anxiety to please those who would have BMs head on a stick that he is now keen to imply that all "x-pipsters" are tarred with the same brush that he has chosen to paint BM.

    Perhaps it would not be too much to ask for the forum administrators to show a little "moderation" and impartiality.

    Less haste to show a judgemental attitude would not have brought me back to your forum to express this opinion and I do not now see it as my place to pour any oil on the water which was stirred by yourselves.

    If you are men enough I suggest that you should show it by making an unconditional retraction of the above remarks rather than try to wriggle out of it by trying to blame me for not applying calming oxidant (whatever that is, sounds like haemorrhoid cream????).

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    i still trust Luke,

    now he is trying to keep all the promises not like the other scammers.
    if he wanted to scam all of us...he should do it long long time ago...not now and still keep on updating the infos to the part of the members due to the NDA and for the security reasons.

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