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    Agree. No communication is always sad.

    I was in Lukes private Forum. But then someone didn't want me to be there any more, because I was a Rolclub Moderator and Luke and Marek are not the best of friends.

    Sadly I didn't know that. And I was unfortunate to recommend Marek to join his Forum. When the other members said no because they where afraid of all the blabbermouths on RC, I informed Marek why he wasn't allowed to join. I did post on Luke's Forum everything I told Marek. I didn't hide anything. I was out in the open.

    But Lukes faithful members are extremely afraid of blabbermouths. So I suddenly became a "dangerous" person!

    Just because I was honest.... And told Marek why he wasn't allowed to join....

    Some of the most faithful Hyipeffect members probably knows a lot more than us. But they are not allowed to post a word on Rolclub. Then they will be banned.

    If you ever have believed that Rolclub hav been strikt when it comes to ban people. Forget it. I was banned from Lukes Forum!!!!!

    Me who supported Hyipeffect and Luke all the way. Strange world, don't you think so too?

    My mistake was to inform Marek of why he wasn't allowed to join. That's why they banned me.

    I think it is very wrong when fear becomes so great that beeing polite shall be the reson for banning people....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanni View Post
    Agree. No communication is always sad.

    I was in Lukes private Forum. But then someone didn't want me to be there any more, because I was a Rolclub Moderator and Luke and Marek are not the best of friends.

    Sadly I didn't know that. And I was unfortunate to recommend Marek to join his Forum. When the other members said no because they where afraid of all the blabbermouths on RC, I informed Marek why he wasn't allowed to join. I did post on Luke's Forum everything I told Marek. I didn't hide anything. I was out in the open.

    But Lukes faithful members are extremely afraid of blabbermouths. So I suddenly became a "dangerous" person!

    Just because I was honest.... And told Marek why he wasn't allowed to join....

    Some of the most faithful Hyipeffect members probably knows a lot more than us. But they are not allowed to post a word on Rolclub. Then they will be banned.

    If you ever have believed that Rolclub hav been strikt when it comes to ban people. Forget it. I was banned from Lukes Forum!!!!!

    Me who supported Hyipeffect and Luke all the way. Strange world, don't you think so too?

    My mistake was to inform Marek of why he wasn't allowed to join. That's why they banned me.

    I think it is very wrong when fear becomes so great that beeing polite shall be the reson for banning people....
    That's truly VERY unfortunate and incomprehensible when most of RC members now get to know of this development...including "myself"...hmmmm


    Sometimes, I get the impression that when someone, whatever he/she is operating on and begins all these cloak & dagger secrecy... these are the tell-tale signs learnt from the master of deceiit...BM, himself now & nicely entrenched within his own wet world in a Malaysian cell!!!

    We are getting better by the looks of it in overcoming them and their sordid solemn silence....

    DON'T TRUST THEM ANYMORE!!!

    Excuses are miles and miles long....but there is an end to it after a while of patience given.

    If anyone knows WHO those are in that small clique surrounding Luke, PM us please.... I can't stand hypocrites lurking on our Forum and speaking/acting like a serpent and thinks he/she can get away at our expense!!!


    YB. - cheers to all of you and I hope Christmas will lift your hearts as we move forward... business as usual.
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    Thank you Nanni for exposing the truth as to a lot of what constitutes a context regarding Luke Borg. Your being banned for doing nothing more than acting out of common sense and courtesy goes a long way to explain the almost religious-type zealtry of some of the supporters of Borg; and, with Borg's deliberate omission of the common courtesy of communication and his supporters so seemingly ready to attack the character of Marek, I find it much easier to now understand why there would be people to "support" a person who has never actually "earned" respect of such support and why these same people would attack or be hostile to someone that is merely disliked by Borg--a personal issue that, until Nanni's post, was only known among Borg & his "supporters," or at least to the ones who were moderators of his HE forum. This hostility, including the hostility of Borg not communicating, then is evidently based on more or less personal and/or philosophical issues, be they cultural, religious, ethnic or whatever. Again, thank you Nanni for coming forward with this important piece of the puzzle. I think now would be time to reflect on Borg and to reevaluate what other possible options there may be other than that of simply accommodating Borg in allowing time to slip idly by with no communication from him; at the rate it is going, months could go by with not a single word from Borg--neither from within this forum because Borg has a personal issue with Marek and neither to HE members directly in their registered email accounts as he hasn't evidenced a willingness to communicate to any appreciable degree. What those options may be I don't know; but I think such options, if any are to be found, may be worthy of discussion at least among members of the HE programs who are not necessarily some kind of "supporter" to anyone other than just being interested in supporting some kind of solution to this wait-and-more-wait game of Borg's with no communication by him directly. If nothing else, a solution may be that of establishing knowledge of modes of contact that each member may use to contact Borg directly. After learning of this personal situation going on with Borg, his supporters and Marek, I no longer think an absurd no-end wait with no communication from Borg as to the duration of such a wait should be tolerated as a reasonable course of action; something better may be possible and communication and some fact gathering on our own may be warranted.

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    Yes, the option was clearly within the commitment and obligation that ly with Luke Borg and it is he that decides for or otherwise even though there are some who think they represent Luke altogether... and leading to what? Further silence and tight-lipped blackout to render further obscurity and guesswork on their humble plan to repay when it is due?

    If a common & decent return with a polite rational communique is all it takes and is that much of an effort a burden???... but jump they will on any other given excuse to cover their need for staying silent and for how long? That depends on how long we continue to go..."hush-hush" and speak no more or you'll be banned and possibly lose your funds on grounds of contravening the NDA.... is the HE NDA legally drafted with a Notary???

    Yes... have any of you considered that, judicially speaking? Only then can it be taken into account as legally effective.... not based on whims and self imposed ruling to ascertain fears across...

    There are among us, HE acct holders, that may be threatened by any move that will jeopardise their accounts should they speak up or raise any issues linked with HE outside the HE Forum.

    This is like going through the post closure of the PIPs forum back then... WE ALL and MOSTLY all, were still supportive of BM and whatever he stood for at that early stage.... but began to realise, we were in fact, being stooges.... supporting a foolhardy cause & program that was only clinging on to more time needed to seek an escape route out.... but each passing week, saw more apprehensions growing and the tide turning against BM till the time arrived when BN decided he should be in "safe custody" and it was sort of too late for those that wanted a personal claim from Bryan.

    Well, whatever Luke is trying to secure... however way his hands are tied behind his back and his mouth is still allowed to munch.... he cannot claim he had not the opportunity to reach out...shout if he must for trying.... but saying nothing is no excuse.... he started HE, he should know, his commitment is not over until his promise is fully executed as he had vowed, irrespective of those that began opposing his behaviour or not, supporting him or speaking against him in or outside the forum or whatever, he has no grounds to differentiate anyone from another as long as he had accepted their money in return for an interesting financial payout!

    YB.

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    Guys and Girls

    Despite the lack of communication,you will get paid by Luke.

    I dont often stick my neck out,but I will on this occasion.Taking any action now will ruin everything. An awful lot of people are relying on these payments,please dont mess it up for everybody,give a while longer.

    Thanks and have a

    HAPPY CHRISTMAS and a PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR.SEASONS GREETINGS TO ALL!

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    BTW

    You should recieve an update today regarding the payouts in January


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    Can I make an observasion here, which will be as popular as a ripper in a spacesuit.

    The only successful HYIPs are the ones that go completely underground, trust me, I'm lucky enough to have found just a couple in 6 years of searching. Secrecy is absolutely vital to their success.

    The only HYIPs that are blabbing everywhere are the ones that want to attract as many suckers as they can, to fleece them clean. Yet some people here think secrecy is bad??? It tells me what kind of HYIP world you belong to.

    The real investments take time, there are always bumps on the road, much patience is required and some don't even make it. But when they do, OH BOY are the returns worthwhile.

    I think some investors here need to mature a little to see this HYIP world for what it really is. In short: the 'noisy' scams will always take your money and run. The quiet ones are sometimes the very best.

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    Thanks a lot Dreamer.

    It is so important that Luke send us an update now.

    From the very beginning i looked at Luke as a person with integrity. So I really believed he would do anything he could to give us the money back.

    His e-mails are the only way we have to communicate with him, since we are locked out from his Forum.

    By the way, there are no need to sende "angry" mails to him. If it is something that really pisses him off, it is angry mails in a rude language. Wich is very understandable.

    I didn't worry a bit earlyer this atumn, but since he didn't mail us in november like he promised, and we now have christmas, I really started to worry.

    I am looking forward to the next update. We all need our money.

    Luke knows that if he manage to pay us all, he will have a bunch of people trusting him and another bunch off his shoulders!

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    Check emails folks, we have an update.
    Zubaidi:Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states.


    Shabibi:The bank wants as a means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar a valuable and powerful.

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    Hi Adster

    Wish you a Merry Christmas!

    I haven't received the update. When did you receive it?

    Hopefully I will receive it later today.

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