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    Here's a simple question for all of you to consider. When the "founder's" of a program blatantly lie about their bio's, the school or schools they attended, the degrees they earned; and these degrees are the basis for the "knowledge" they have obtained allowing them to be successful financial advisor's, and display being spe******ts in a market that doesn't exist (prime bank notes); then how in the world can you "believe" anything else they say or the program they are promoting is real?

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    What is their business address?

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    I see the Whois registrant has now been changed to an anonymous one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LynnRE View Post
    Here's a simple question for all of you to consider. When the "founder's" of a program blatantly lie about their bio's, the school or schools they attended, the degrees they earned; and these degrees are the basis for the "knowledge" they have obtained allowing them to be successful financial advisor's, and display being spe******ts in a market that doesn't exist (prime bank notes); then how in the world can you "believe" anything else they say or the program they are promoting is real?
    Exactly LynnRE!!

    Why in the world do some people deny/ignore the facts that point out that
    the administrators are lying?
    They won't even attempt to argue those facts, but yet they still continue
    to argue about the promised means by which they believe they will become rich!?

    Don't the administrators character traits mean anything?
    Laugh when you can, apologize when you should, and let go of what you can't change. Kiss slowly, play hard, forgive quickly, take chances, give everything, never go to sleep angry and have no regrets. Life is too short to be anything but happy.

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    "There are in fact two markets that exist with regard to endowment policy trading, the first type is the publicly Traded Endowment Policy (TEP) market which is regulated by securities regulators, which is the only market you will find any information about if you google the phrase “Traded Endowment Policies”.

    In this regulated market, the hub of which is in the UK, you must hold a TEP for 7/8 years before the TEP has accrued sufficient value to make it possible for it to be sold on, for a profit, crucially however, as well as this regulated public market in TEPs, there is also private financial market known as the a “private placement” traded endowment policy market, this market is closed to the general public because it is not regulated by the SEC or equivalent regulators, but it is regulated by the insurance regulators.

    Within this private financial market only Sophisticated/Accredited Investors are permitted to invest in the these type of TEPs, and when I say Sophisticated/ Accredited Investors I am referring to the Trust partner or Venture Capital firm, not us the members.

    So how is it possible that we as members are able to participate in a private placement TEP transaction, even thought they are not open to the general public?, simple, we join a private-members club and pay a membership fee (admin fee), this private-members club structure makes it possible if a “Reverse Pension Plan” to provide it’s members with access to these type of transactions as beneficiaries, not as Investors.

    The biggest difference between publicly offered and regulated TEPs, and private placement TEPs, is that the private placement TEPs, have an immediate value based on its maturity value which is available to the Sophisticate/Accredited Investor as soon as the policy is issued, in other words you don’t have to hold a private placement TEP for 7/8 years before it has accrued sufficient value to make it possible to sell it, this reality is demonstrated by the fact that the Bank will offer a loan of 60% of the endowment policy’s face value (maturity value) to the Sophisticated/Accredited Investor (Trust partner Venture Capital firm) as soon as it is issued, and since Banks only give loans against good collateral, it should be equally clear that these type of private placement endowment policies constitutes excellent collateral, as otherwise no such loan would be forthcoming.

    Remember, these private placement TEPs should not to be confused with publicly offered and regulated TEPs, so knowing your apples from your oranges is key, and is what separates the financially savvy individual, from those less so."

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    Quote Originally Posted by whadyano View Post
    Don't the administrators character traits mean anything?
    And of course you're willing to take LynnRE's word for that.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicosan View Post
    And of course you're willing to take LynnRE's word for that.....
    So prove me wrong. Prove that Gregory Stallings-Blash and Wolfgang Steinbad-Holst are their real names. Prove that they both earned a BS Degree in Financial Management from Johnson & Wales University with honors. Heck that is only 2 of the many lies they have told. So, let's see it.

    Of course you can't or you would have answered the questions immediately, not try to claim there is "NOTHING TO DEBATE." Well, no debate is needed. They are LIARS. Hope that is simple enough for you, so here's your big moment. Prove me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LynnRE View Post
    So prove me wrong.

    I have no interest in proving anything to you because your mind is closed.

    Prove that Gregory Stallings-Blash and Wolfgang Steinbad-Holst are their real names. Prove that they both earned a BS Degree in Financial Management from Johnson & Wales University with honors. Heck that is only 2 of the many lies they have told. So, let's see it.

    IN YOUR OPINION.

    Of course you can't or you would have answered the questions immediately,

    WHY would anyone answer your questions? YOU don't accept answers unless they fit in with your opinions.

    not try to claim there is "NOTHING TO DEBATE." Well, no debate is needed. They are LIARS. Hope that is simple enough for you, so here's your big moment. Prove me wrong.
    I don't have to.......YOU have already demonstrated that your "facts" are just your opinions.

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    Johnson and Wales University have never heard of them. Neither has any one else in the financial world.

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    "There are in fact two markets that exist with regard to endowment policy trading, the first type is the publicly Traded Endowment Policy (TEP) market which is regulated by securities regulators, which is the only market you will find any information about if you google the phrase “Traded Endowment Policies”.

    In this regulated market, the hub of which is in the UK, you must hold a TEP for 7/8 years before the TEP has accrued sufficient value to make it possible for it to be sold on, for a profit, crucially however, as well as this regulated public market in TEPs, there is also private financial market known as the a “private placement” traded endowment policy market, this market is closed to the general public because it is not regulated by the SEC or equivalent regulators, but it is regulated by the insurance regulators.

    Within this private financial market only Sophisticated/Accredited Investors are permitted to invest in the these type of TEPs, and when I say Sophisticated/ Accredited Investors I am referring to the Trust partner or Venture Capital firm, not us the members.

    So how is it possible that we as members are able to participate in a private placement TEP transaction, even thought they are not open to the general public?, simple, we join a private-members club and pay a membership fee (admin fee), this private-members club structure makes it possible if a “Reverse Pension Plan” to provide it’s members with access to these type of transactions as beneficiaries, not as Investors.

    The biggest difference between publicly offered and regulated TEPs, and private placement TEPs, is that the private placement TEPs, have an immediate value based on its maturity value which is available to the Sophisticate/Accredited Investor as soon as the policy is issued, in other words you don’t have to hold a private placement TEP for 7/8 years before it has accrued sufficient value to make it possible to sell it, this reality is demonstrated by the fact that the Bank will offer a loan of 60% of the endowment policy’s face value (maturity value) to the Sophisticated/Accredited Investor (Trust partner Venture Capital firm) as soon as it is issued, and since Banks only give loans against good collateral, it should be equally clear that these type of private placement endowment policies constitutes excellent collateral, as otherwise no such loan would be forthcoming.

    Remember, these private placement TEPs should not to be confused with publicly offered and regulated TEPs, so knowing your apples from your oranges is key, and is what separates the financially savvy individual, from those less so."

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