couldnt agree more mate, give away a few woots and say the rv will happen no mater what and you are worshipped, you can bash anyone with no reprucussions, although only 1 person uses that power, the rest i admire and enjoy reading their positive posts.
On the other hand, state some facts that people dont like and your blasted, "leave us alone naysayer" "go back to iif".
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31-12-2006, 09:51 AM #1041
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this is getting out of hand on both sides
putting aside that there is a forum for rumors and there is a forum for naysaying, this is all getting out of hand. There are a few on the naysaying side and a few on the yasaying side that are taking things to heart and that always makes for bad blood. I think we are all adults and we should have better manners than to attack someone for having a difference of opinion. I am not calling anyone out, because I am sure that there is a larger amount at fault that I could mention and really it is not important at this point. the fact is, this is an information board. Members like Rolls Royces and SGS should be able to share what ever knowledge that they come out with without being called out just like members like risktaker should be allowed to say how he/she feels about something without getting the third degree from those who disagree. We need to practice some social tack and act with respect for our forum family. I don't want to loose more valued information gatherers and potential friends because we cant be kind. This is still close to Chistmas time. Have we already forgotten how to treat others. I know we can do better. Thank you for reading this post and I look forward to everyone playing nice and being respectfull.
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31-12-2006, 11:12 AM #1046
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You are absolutly correct, however, the martyr routine of "oh poor me, I am out of here" just doesn't fly anymore. i agree there is no reason why a person has to agree with someone else, but "pity pot thinkin'" needs to be flushed. You all can take it how you want.
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31-12-2006, 11:22 AM #1047
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you missed my point. We as individuals do not have the right to critisis anyone. If we followed this one basic concept. those that you say are playing the martyr routine would not have to do that at all. see what I mean. If we all treated each other with respect we would not have any reasons to complain.
put it this way. If my son does or says anything hurtful, I make him apologize because that type of behavior is not acceptable. I don't think I am alone in this form of action (aside from Ricky Boby and his two sons walker and texas ranger) If we teach our children to act and treat others in a certain way then we should as well.
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31-12-2006, 11:47 AM #1049
Um Phiber, the Kool Aid reference is about the Jim Jones Cult that killed themselves by drinking poisoned Flavor Aid which is similar to Kool Aid.
From: Jim Jones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In the summer of 1977, Jones and most of the 1,000 members of the Peoples Temple moved to Guyana from San Francisco after an investigation into the church for tax evasion was begun. Jones named the closed settlement Jonestown after himself. His intention was to create an agricultural utopia in the jungle, free from racism and based on quasi-communist principles. Jones told his followers to think of him as the incarnation of Christ and God.
People who had left the organization prior to its move to Guyana told the authorities of brutal beatings, murders and of a mass suicide plan, but were not believed. In spite of the tax evasion allegations, Jones was still widely respected for setting up a racially mixed church which helped the disadvantaged. Around 70% of the inhabitants of Jonestown were black and impoverished.
The religious scholar Mary McCormick Maaga argued that Jones' authority waned after he moved to the isolated commune, because there he was not needed anymore for recruitment and he could not hide his drug addiction from rank and file members.[2] Consequently, he lost some of his power to inner-circle members, according to McCormick Maaga.
In November 1978, U.S. Congressman Leo Ryan led a fact-finding mission to the Jonestown settlement in Guyana after allegations by relatives in the U.S. of human rights abuses. Ryan's delegation arrived in Jonestown on November 14 and spent three days interviewing residents. They left hurriedly on the morning of Saturday November 18 after an attempt was made on Ryan's life. They took with them roughly twenty People's Temple members who wished to leave. Delegation members later told police that, as they were boarding planes at the airstrip, a truckload of Jones' armed guards arrived and began to shoot at them. When the gunmen left five people were dead: Representative Ryan, a reporter from NBC, a cameraman from NBC, a newspaper photographer, and one defector from the Peoples Temple. The present-day California State Senator Jackie Speier, a staff member for Rep. Ryan in 1978, Richard Dwyer, the Deputy Chief of Mission from the U.S. Embassy at Georgetown and allegedly an officer of the Central Intelligence Agency, and a producer for NBC News, Bob Flick, survived the attack.
Later that same day, the remaining 909 inhabitants of Jonestown, 276 of them children, committed mass suicide that Jones referred to as "revolutionary suicide" on Jones's instructions by drinking cyanide-laced Flavor Aid, by forced cyanide injection, or by shooting. Jones was found dead with a shot in the head, sitting in a deck chair. The autopsy on his body showed levels of the barbiturate pentobarbital that could have been lethal to humans who have not developed physiological tolerance. His drug abuse (including various LSD and marijuana experimentations) was confirmed by his son, Stephan, and Jones' doctor in San Francisco.
Flavor Aid is a soft drink beverage made by Jel Sert, introduced in 1929. It is similar to Kool-Aid.
Around 913 followers of Jim Jones committed cult suicide by drinking cyanide-laced grape Flavor Aid in 1978.
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