Has anyone else seen this
from one of the other sites.
This is from Nick = onedaysoon, he found this:
The price of the Iraqi dinar new yesterday improvement new is the first of its kind eight years ago, it hit the dollar in the markets of Baghdad to the 1000 Iraqi dinars, having risen from 2000 to 1500 dinars to the dollar at the beginning of this week, with swept fever buying the Iraqi dinar new markets Egyptian, Jordanian and Kuwaiti after that was believed that the rate of the Iraqi dinar is much lower than the true value, which could be up to it at any moment, which helps Apptnen to achieve weلalth rapidly. The price of one million Iraqi dinars in markets in Cairo in 4400 pounds or the equivalent of $ 700. In another report disclosed that the Iraqis Jordanian occupied the first rank in the list of purchasing real estate in Jordan from Arab About 202 Iraqis who purchased land and houses in the year 2003, reports revealed that the number in 2002 was 125 Iraqis, and the real estate value of 34 million Jordanian dinars.
The report issued by the Department of Lands and Survey to be active real estate market last year by 15% compared with 2002 as the number of Amestmlkin real estate from non-Jordanians 758 people compared with 687 people in 2002. The real estate offices in Jordan have witnessed many acts of buying land and housing after the war led by the United States against Iraq in March (March) before the last of the families of former officials and the rich came from Iraq because of the state of lawlessness that still exist. Sources indicate that the number of Iraqis owners of apartments and buildings in Jordan exceeded 300 thousand Iraqis.
The exchange rate of the American dollar had started to decline gradually as of Tuesday, as the 1510 Iraqi dinars morning in the middle of the day in 1420 dinars at the end of the day in 1350 dinars. He attributed the rise in the value of moneychangers Iraqi dinar this big picture and the sudden transfer of the broad direction of the new Iraqi dinars abroad, especially towards Jordan and the State of Kuwait.
If this is an old bill okay/ why use it as an example and not some other smaller denomination?
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It seems that the state insists, or preserve the value of the Iraqi dinar 148 against the dollar ...Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states [ MOF Sept 2006]
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Yes.
I caught the last 15 minutes this morning before 6 am on the way to work. I was wondering where I could get the Whole Story. Thanks terry853. I only heard the closing comments and was very incourge just by them. But I dont need much Incourgement. It was good to hear tho that it is Publicly being aired.
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This is what I was reminded of. This is from june 06
A dialogue-Yasser acting Secretary sanctuary
Minister of Finance (morning)
Under the draft National Reconciliation
Detection and Finance Minister Mr. Jabr Al statement revealed a profile of the direct economic programme lasting government which would be reflected in the 2007 budget. He was the first modern press after Astizarh Ministry of Finance : The budget will be the first quality they will be under a government elected durable.
The features of the new plan include the expansion of the tax base does not increase and the re-evaluation of property and real estate state and the sale of many of them and the Ministry intends to support and assist the citizen to allocate land plots housing is outside the boundaries of municipalities, according to the controls established in coordination with the Ministry of Municipalities.
Asked about how to expand the tax base and increase the non-citizen said : We have a list of businesses not covered by taxes and seek coverage as an example mobile-phone companies which reap billions of dollars annually for a handful of dinars have no value.
Taxes on businesses
He questioned the minister why does not impose taxes on these companies in Iraq at the time amounting to revenues Lebanon from taxes on companies mobile-phone worth $ 3 billion dollars annually, as well as in the case of Egypt, where obtain a value of $ 6 billion annually from taxes mobile-phone global and reiterated questioning why not do the Iraq example of these States?
He added. We have a long list of the companies covered by this tax to obtain funds to support the budget that source only oil sales, pointing out that 97% of the budget of Iraq depends on oil and this does not exist in any world economy, even in countries Gulf oil, the sources of funding for their budgets to multiple manufacturing and Els Naat other taxes.
On a question about the need for Iraq to the new laws and regulations to implement this programme and plan.
Al said : I believe that all of our laws gives us the power to move a window to implement the ambitious plan that have been established for the year 2007.
Q : But reform mechanisms required by the agreement with the International Monetary Fund have negative effects on the social level?
This question, the Minister of Finance said that the International Monetary Fund seeks as far as possible should not be balancing consumers money oil but sought to be Iraqi funds consumed in the investment volume of operating funds so that the consumption of oil funds strained budget and placed a burden on the citizen according to the minister's opinion, but the opinion that the size of the investment funds push Iraq towards development and progress of this vein, the policy of the International Monetary refuses to be budget-consuming, not only have no work investment.
Real support for the network of social protection
He said : I am at a meeting with the IMF noted that the Fund is supporting the fund a network of social protection, which we believe is important to continue to support and, accordingly put in the principles of the policy in 2007 to support and increase real support network of social welfare which are citizens below the poverty line, pointing out that the Ala Lakh document with the International Monetary Fund have enabled us to write off debts.
Support citizen
Al talked about the reform of the banking sector stressing perceptions Advance endure this sector of reluctance and failure in the banking operations, pointing out meeting with managers of banks, urging them to the need to establish a policy of recent banking clear sophisticated able to support citizen who suffers is the other weakness of the efficiency potential of the material.
He said that the future will activate and develop the performance and activity of the banks in the various sectors of commercial, industrial and real estate for a comprehensive study on the development of the Land Bank and supporting the Rafidain Bank in order to enable citizens to carry out projects that require advances because his salary limited to fill needs.
In the question of (morning) When you, Mr. Minister acknowledged the limited salaries of the citizens to see what Al is improving living staff?
The minister stressed that talk about the standard of living is Concerns He can not magically increase the salaries of staff Yakha inflation and a clog budget because any increase in amounts of money caused considerable damage to the budget in 2007.
But that Sathrk prepared to support the volume of investment funds that would help create hundreds of thousands of jobs armies of the unemployed during 2007.
He said : We will support a strong implementation of investment plans Territories, which amounted to 2 billion dollars Snzidha next year and I have heard and holistic satisfaction that some of the governorates where more than 30 projects, I believe that we must create new jobs and I am not with the creation of job opportunities through employment in the State, but through the private sector. The wages of the private sector becomes better than the public sector.
* Hadithk understanding of the context, the trend is towards a free economy, this is the general framework of the government's economic?
- Yes, he is also
And the direction of another, he said : I can solve problems payroll I know that some staff had been in the injustice of the hierarchy because of the different ministries applications such peace. Having outlined articles (morning), with and I will do my utmost to consolidate peace salaries but we need time to be consolidated.
Theme retirees
Asked about the law and retirement worries retirees
Zubaidi said that the law on the retirement of the Transitional National Assembly has already indicated that the Ministry of Finance transition gaps. I think that this subject has been long overdue and we are waiting for the termination of adding the first day began with the Ministry of Finance met with the Directorate General of retirement and asked to expedite the completion of instruction and study in this regard.
The minister pointed out that the IMF has raised some problems about the retirement law Vbacherna re-examine this law in order to overcome some of the gaps that have occurred that caused the injustice of some staff who provide substantial services to Iraq and the Iraqis.
He warned that the continued application of this law would constitute a significant burden on the state budget, explaining that the volume of funds that acted annually under this law more than 2 billion dollars annually, and that would be borne by the state budget if we add them 3 billion dollars to import derivatives of oil and $ 4 billion card ration so as to arrive Almbl G. to over 10 billion dollars, these funds constitute a financial burden as I mentioned, and then there is a pressing need to examine these matters ... This is what we call the IMF and agreed to re-examine the law to ensure the right of retiree pension and to ensure the right of the State alike.
Turning Minister to the foreign debt of Iraq and $ 125 billion, indicating the completion of the write-off 80% of Iraq's debts in respect of Paris Club debts after resolving the issue of Russia, where we negotiate with, and debt relief and to resolve the matter by reducing the amount of 13 billion dollars to 800 million dollars. He explained that the remainder of the debt and the Paris Club of Egypt, China, Turkey, Poland, has been asked Ambassador in Paris negotiation. And debts between the Gulf Minister that he was subject to the Saudi Minister of Finance, Mr. Ibrahim Al Assaf during a visit to the kingdom, and it was agreed to send a high-level experts to study the issue of debt. And the expectation that the Gulf states Al sister Akram will be from the Paris Club to extinguish Iraq's debts in full. Activate insurers He called Al Iraqi press to reactivate its role in creating awareness of insurance companies and the activation of the national insurance all their activities. But the companies have withdrawn from the market due to the lack of coverage of the potential of major incidents in Iraq and recorded a failure to perform? The minister said : we activate the role of life insurance companies, money, cars, fires, accidents, He gave an example of the Minister fires Alcheorgh as traders believers got their money rewarding compensation and have demonstrated their awareness of the importance of some traders insurance. Therefore, we do insurance companies and their role in support of the citizens and the national economy, insurance civilizational phenomenon. Financial support of the draft National Reconciliation Asked (morning) on the role of the Ministry of Finance of the State of the initiative of the Prime Minister Maliki initiative of national reconciliation? Jabr Al statement said the Finance Minister. I'm initiative launched by the chairman of the Council of Ministers brother Maliki my personal belief of the bloodshed of Iraq and wish to re-Iraq united people and their land, and as Minister of Finance will spare no effort to support this initiative, both in the area of compensation approved by initiative victims or any paragraph came Balmb bulletin. 3 zeroes lifting of the Iraqi dinar In the morning, a question that the write-off of debts of Iraq will contribute to enhancing the value of the Iraqi dinar? Mr. Zubaidi said the statement. The value of the Iraqi dinar for monetary policy, such a policy is the responsibility of the Iraqi Central Bank, the Ministry of Finance is responsible for fiscal policy. He added, but suggested that Mr. Governor of the Central Bank Dr. Sinan Shabibi need to raise the value of the Iraqi dinar and return to normal through the lifting of three zeroes. Voadeni Mr. Governor well to hold an expanded meeting next month to study the proposal by experts in this area of the Iraqi Central Bank, Ministry of Finance and Commercial Bank, namely, the proposals to get the value of the Iraqi dinar equivalent of [to] the American dollar, this goal we will strive to achieve, God willing, during the four years Llahkom e due to the new Iraqi dinar healthy stand of the other currencies. Lastly Zubaidi corresponding reference to the International Monetary Fund to support the resolution Iraqi dinar remarkable considering that the Central Bank of Iraq financially cover $ 11 billion dollars to support the value of the Iraqi dinar and the cover is rarely found in the third world. Thereby taking morning two hours from the time the minister and exited the impression that the new plan will live up the economy of Iraq to the level of developed nations if we wrote them success and support by the government and parliament although gaps Retirement Law remained vague and needed to be clarified more and this will deal with in another meeting with Mr. Alos Ware
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So it's possible that the recent remarks could mean three or four years since the issue of the new currency. He alluded to this back in June '06 in his famous three zero lift report. By the way 2007 is the fourth year and increasing the dinar value to equal what a 1000 is today would be a lifting of three zeros wouldn't it? Plus he is saying the increase is in the budget.
Azzubeidi said that a decision was made to raise the value of the dinar against the dollar in the budgetLast edited by wciappetta; 27-01-2007 at 10:39 PM. Reason: added material
It seems that the state insists, or preserve the value of the Iraqi dinar 148 against the dollar ...Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states [ MOF Sept 2006]
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It does look as if the Kurds were the ones that left the meeting which meant there were no longer enough members to do a vote on the budget.
Voices of Iraq: Baghdad-Parliament
Posted by: nakr2004 on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 02:51 PM
Baghdad-Parliament
Controversy over budget ends parliamentary session
By Santa Michael
Baghdad, Jan 27, (VOI) - Heated debates and controversy over the presidency's allocations in Iraq's long-awaited 2007 budget ended an extraordinary parliamentary session for one hour.
Saturday's session saw strong arguments between the Shiite Unified Iraqi Coalition (UIC), the largest bloc in parliament with 130 seats out of a total of 275 seats, and the Kurdistan Coalition over allocations for the three leading institutions in the country - the presidency, the cabinet and parliament.
Parliament Speaker Dr. Mahmoud al-Mashhadani proposed concluding the session "pending an end to the bloc and sectarian arguments." The proposal, however, did not obtain the approval of the parliament as members of the Kurdistan Coalition, the Iraqi parliament's second largest bloc with 55 seats, walked out of the session.
The motion to keep financial appropriations for the presidency, cabinet and parliament as they were did not win the approval of members as only 74 deputies voted for it.
Fouad Maasoum, leader of the Kurdistan Coalition bloc in palriament, protested what he believed discrimination in the debates about appropriations.
"Why focus is lent to the presidential approprations while the cabinet's remained intact?" Maasoum asked during a stormy session.
Hassan al-Sanid of the UIC criticized the heated debates between Shiites and Kurds in parliament.
"The brothers in the Kurdistan Coalition have been defending the president (Kurdish Jalal Talabani) while the brothers in the UIC have been defending the prime minister (Shiite Nouri al-Maliki), which is entirely wrong because the president is one for all Iraqis and so is the prime minister," said al-Sanid.
Shaza al-Abbousi of the UIC said Saturday's session was concluded for one hour to reach an entente cordiale among all the parliamentary blocs.
She considered the Kurds' withdrawal from the session as an attempt to upset the quorum, adding "most of the members have voted against keeping appropriations as they were."
Members of the Kurdistan Coalition declined to give any statements to the press.
Mashhadani had said in the beginning of this session that passing the 2007 budget as scheduled on Saturday would be a great achievement expected by the Iraqi people.
Kurdistan Coalition member Nawzad Saleh told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI) earlier on Saturday "if the quorum is observed in today's session, the draft budget will be read and offered for voting by the members, and if not, the session will be postponed until after Muharram 10th in the hegira calendar," the day marking the major Shiite celebrations of Ashuraa.
UIC member Abbas al-Bayyati told VOI "the draft budget has gone a long way in agreement among the blocs as the meeting of leaders of the blocs on Thursday helped a great deal bridging points of differences."
Parliamentary sessions had been postponed more than once last month due to incompletion of the quorum (more than half the total members, prompting parliament to hold only consultative sessions, which also stopped for the Eid al-Adha holidays and the absence of several members out of the country to perform the Muslim duty of hajj (pilgrimage).
Meanwhile, Kurdistan Coalition member Abdul-Bari Zibari said his bloc's objection and withdrawal was due to the failure to set realistic and acceptable rates for reducing appropriations in this year's budget.
Zibari told VOI "there was a proposal to cut the presidency's appropriations by about 80% and the premiership's by 40%."
The draft budget is allocating 120.9 billion Iraqi dinars (roughly 94 million U.S. dollars) for the presidency and 762.8 billion Iraqi dinars (roughly 591 million U.S. dollars) for the cabinet.The task ahead of you is never as
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This just in.........
Hallo my frnd. No we have no see the 10,000 dinar gift our govermet talkis abot. we wait happly but are sad becuse it no come. You quetin of news on 2 tabls of mony, no one i now has seen. mayb soon we hopeid reval. the kurdish causid problms, but they are good peoples. i start scool soon for farmig help to my peoples. will be in Dubai. mayb you come see me. be safe my frnd. one day I come to canada with my wif.
Yasser
Did not expect such a direct reply, but he did respond. The big question I had which Yasser did not answer was, when is the reval. He, as well as us in past posts has stated he thinks soon, but is frustrated as well. Just thought I'd share.
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2007-2008 CALENDAR OF IMPORTANT ISLAMIC DATES
Aashura: January 29, 2007
Ramadan: September 13 - October 11, 2007
Eid ul-Fitr: October 12, 2007
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Eid ul-Adha: December 20, 2007
Islamic New Year: January 9, 2008 (1429 A.H.)
The change at around 9 PM EST plus 60 pips should reflect the auction rate for tomorrow. I may have missed it but did they promise to maintain the rate this week or do we expect a change tomorrow.
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حملة التضليل الاعلاميه ورطت الشعوب العربيه والاسلاميه في الفتنThe disinformation campaign media at the back of the Arab and Islamic peoples in strife - نبيل الموسوي- Nabil al-Musawi
(صوت العراق) - 28-01-2007(Voice of Iraq) - 28-01-2007
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ان ابتلاء الشعب المسلم بحكام سفله اميين وفقهاء غارقين بالجمود الفكري لايفقهون سوى مصلحة انفسهم ولاقيمون اي اعتبار لتاريخ او دين او اخلاق لننظر الى التوجس والقلق والخوف عند حكام العرب وما يسمى برائيس رابطة علماء المسلمين في العالم الشيخ القرضاوي من انتشارمذهب التشيع في العالم السني الا يسئل العقلاء والمثقفون ماهي القوة في هذا المذهب التي تجعل السياسي السني والعالم السني يهرج ويتهم ويشتم المذهب الشيع برغم ان المؤسسات السنيه الدينيه والسياسيه تمسك بزمام الامور في العالمين العربي والاسلامي ماهو سر التحول من المذهب السني الى المذهب الشيعي هل هناك عاقل في الدنيا يضحي براحته وسمعته وتمتعه بملذات الدنيا ويتحول الى مذهب طريقه مليء بالمصاعب والقتل والشبهات الضاغطه والاقصاء؟ اذن هناك اسرار غيبت عن المسلمين وادرك الباحثون عن الحقيقه ان هناك غش وتضليل, ولنضرب مثالا على طريقة تعامل الطالباني وبيانات ما يسمى بلقاعده الطالبان عندما سيطرون على افغانستان قدموا ادلتهم العلميه للشيعه في سبيل تحولهم من المذهب الشيعي الى المذهب السني اولا سبي النساء وصنع مجزرة في الرجال نحروهم كما تنحر الابل وليس عندهم ما يقدمون من ادله مقنعه سوى انهم عزلوا الاطفال وادخلوهم في مدارس يدرسونهم كفر الشيعه والبرائه من اهل البيت عليهم السلام وهذا ما نشرته بيانات القاعده في بلاد الرافدين فهل من الانصاف والمنطق السديد تسود العالم العربي والاسلامي هذه الفوضى الفكريه؟ نحن نتحدى المؤسسه الدينيه وبالتحديد في السعوديه ان تطلب حوارا عقيديا في الفضائيات واتمنى ان تزيف الفكر الشيعي وتثبت خرافته حتى تحصن افكار من تخشى عليهم من الدخول في المذهب الشيعي .هذا الارهاب الفكري والتجني وابعاد الانسان عن رغبته وقناعاته وفرض اجنده عليه بشعارات دينيه لاتتصل باهداف الاسلام يشكل اخطر انواع الارهاب . وانابعكس الاتجاه ادعوا ابناء الشيعه الى الدخول في المذهب السني ولكن عن قناعة وبحث وتدبر بعيدا عن التعصب والتذبذب والجهل المركب فالمذهب السني لماذا لايخيفنا ولايشكل عدوانيه في نفوسنا نحن نتقدم بالسؤال الى المثقف العربي وليس لنا كلام مع من خرجته مدرسة التطرف وغسل دماغه بحيث وضع في اركان عقيدته التقرب الى الله بتكفير الشيعه نقول ان التضعضع الحاصل في سير المعتقدات السنيه هو التشدد الزائد والتطرف عندما علماء السنه الذين يخشون من وضع كتاب شيعي في المكتبة السنيه بينما الشيعه لايعتمدون في نقل الحوارات الى على كتب اخوتنا السنه اذهب الى المغرب العربي واسئل عن كتاب شيعي سيجيبك المواطن العادي منهم الشيعه انظر الى فضائية المغرب عاصمة الدوله الحسنيه تجد العيد في يوم العاشر من المحرم اقتدءا بالبرنامج الاموي وتنكيلا برسول الله هل من الانصاف للمسلم ان يعظم الفاسق الذي اجمع علماء السنه المنصفون على خروج يزيد من المله يحتفلون بقتل ريحانة رسول الله انا ابرا الشعوب ولكن هذه سياسة التجهيل والاستغفال اذا لم يلتفت اليها الحريصون على المذهب السني ستحل الكارثه ان عاجلا او اجلا ان السنة فيهم عظماء صنعوا التاريخ وفيهم فقهاء منصفون وباحثون حقيقيون موضوعيون وفيهم الادباء والفلاسفه والعباقره تبقى مسئلة الاختيار للتعبد هو مسؤل امام الله ولست انا من يفرض عليه قناعات نتمنى ان يدرك الجميع من سخروا انفسهم لترويج تجارة الفتن وجندوا طاقاتهم فهذا سعود الفيصل والمملوك عبد الله صغير وعجوز مصر الشاذ جنسيا يجرون المنطقه الى هاوية الصراع المذهبي الطائفي ويجعلون من انفسهم قيمين على الشعب العراقي اما شيوخ الخليج فهم كربات الحجال لايعرفون سوى الجنس ولذة التسط على شعوبهم المخدره المذلوله فهم ليسوا الا موضفين لايملك احدهم قرار طلاق زوجته لقد كشف النواح على صدام عورات العرب وارجعهم الى تاريخ اوسخ من نفوسهم
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