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Tips to accept Kurdish leadership to postpone the Article 140 on Kirkuk
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.Arbil : Agency (Lucky) Italian News - The Kurdish parliamentary sources it is expected that the Kurdish leadership made concessions regarding the implementation of Article 140 of the Iraqi Constitution versus maintaining, what it called "further gains" achieved for the Kurds in Kurdistan. ".The transfer site (Sphi) on the Kurdish Jhalak Azad, MP in the House of the Iraqi Sulaymaniyah saying that "there is insistence large blocs of Iraqi political demands with respect to amend some articles of the Constitution, does not provide any of those lumps concessions to each other in order to break the current impasse, therefore Consultations and ongoing meetings on this issue did not yield any desired results. "
".And on the willingness of the Kurdish leadership to accept the postponement of the implementation of article 140 of the normalization of Kirkuk under a political deal, Jhalak said, "All parties must participate in the amendment of the constitution to make concessions, and the Kurds even if offered concessions in this regard, they will be concessions on the principles and main points contained in that article. .The transfer of the site from its own sources as saying that he believed that the Kurdish leadership has agreed to postpone the article 140, as they approved all the oil changes it.
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Iraqi VP arrives in Najaf, meets al-Sistani Najaf - Voices of Iraq
Wednesday , 23 /05 /2007 Time 10:57:16 </B>By Haider al-Kaabi Najaf, May 23, (VOI)- Iraqi Vice President Adel Abdul Mahdi arrived in Najaf on Wednesday morning and met with top Shiite cleric Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani.
Abdul Mahdi is due to take part in a conference, organized by the Islamic University in Najaf, on the current electricity situation in the Shiite province of Najaf.
Five Iraqi ministers will attend the conference, media spokesman for the Najaf province, Ahmed Daabeil said.
Najaf is the first Shiite sacred city as it hosts the shrine of the Shiite first Imam Ali, cousin of Prophet of Muhammed. It is located about 160 km southwest of Baghdad.
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Senior industry official assassinated
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Unidentified gunmen have shot and killed Basem al-Maadhidi, director-general of the State Company for Electronic systems and two of his body guards.
Maadhidi was a senior official at the Ministry of Industry and was spearheading efforts to established a wired administration in Iraq and revamp the country’s electronic industries.
“He (Maadhidi) was a pillar of the Iraqi industrial sector and his assassination is a great loss to the country,” a ministry statement said.
It said Maadhidi was killed last Sunday. He was kidnapped the same day as he left his home on his way to work, it added.
Though a senior official, Maadhidi’s kidnapping and killing has gone unreported by international media whose reporting is now centered mainly on major car bombings and U.S. casualties.
Maadhidi worked hard to repair the ministry’s companies and succeed in operating many of them despite massive damage inflicted during and in the aftermath of the 2003 U.S. invasion.
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Hashemi : "The government promised to implement the demands Accord Front.
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الهاشمي: الحكومة وعدت بتنفيذ مطالب جبهة التوافق
Hashemi : "The government promised to implement the demands Accord Front.
كتلة الائتلاف تنفي طرح شروط مسبقة لتحقيق المصالحة الوطنية
Bloc coalition denies putting preconditions for achieving national reconciliation
مسعفون يحاولون انتشال ضحايا تفجيرات بغداد أمس
Msavon trying to pull the victims of bombings of Baghdad
بغداد، عمان، واشنطن: علاء حسن، خالد فخيدة، أ ف ب
Baghdad, Amman and Washington : Alaa Hassan, Khalid Vkhideh, AFP
أكد نائب الرئيس العراقي وأمين عام الحزب الإسلامي العراقي طارق الهاشمي وجود رغبة دولية في إجراء تعديلات على الدستور، مشيرا إلى أن تلويح جبهة التوافق بالانسحاب من الحكومة يأتي في إطار الضغط لتنفيذ الاتفاقات السابقة قبل تشكيل حكومة نوري المالكي.
Iraq's Vice President and Secretary General of the Iraqi Islamic Party, Tariq Al-Hashmi presence in the international desire to make amendments to the Constitution, noting that a hint Accord Front to withdraw from the government came under pressure to implement previous agreements before the formation of the government of Nuri al-Maliki.
وقال الهاشمي لـ"الوطن": "نأمل خلال الأيام القليلة المقبلة حصول توافق بين القادة السياسيين ورؤساء الكتل النيابية على حسم الخلاف بخصوص القضايا التي لم تستطع لجنة التعديلات الدستورية إيجاد الحلول المناسبة لها"، موضحا أن "مشروع التعديل تقدمت به جبهة التوافق العراقية وخصوصا الحزب الإسلامي استنادا إلى قناعتنا بأن تمرير الدستور بشكله الحالي لا يخدم مصالح الشعب العراقي، وهذا ما أشارت إليه أطراف دولية ومنظمة الأمم المتحدة، وأبدت تأييدها ورغبتها في إجراء التعديل".
Hashemi said "Al-Watan" : "We hope in the next few days get consensus among political leaders and heads of parliamentary groups to resolve differences on the issues that the Commission has failed constitutional amendments to find suitable solutions," He explained that "the draft amendment submitted by the Iraqi Accord Front, especially the Islamic Party based on the conviction that the constitution passed in its current form does not serve the interests of the Iraqi people, as pointed out by international parties and the United Nations, and expressed its support and desire to hold the amendment."
وتجري في العاصمة الأردنية عمان مباحثات بين أطراف عراقية مشاركة في الحكومة وخارجها من أجل تشكيل تجمع عراقي جديد يمكن أن يكون بديلاً للعديد من الكيانات السياسية الموجودة حاليا في الساحة العراقية.
And in the Jordanian capital, Amman talks between Iraqi parties participate in and outside the government for the formation of a new Iraqi government can be a substitute for many political entities currently in the Iraqi arena.وذكرت مصادر أن نائب الرئيس العراقي ورئيس جبهة الحوار الوطني صالح المطلق ورئيس القائمة العراقية الوطنية والأمين العام لحركة الوفاق الوطني العراقي إياد علاوي وشخصيات عراقية أخرى تبحث ترتيب جبهة جديدة بعد الانسحاب من حكومة المالكي.
Sources said that the Iraqi Vice President and President of the Front National Dialogue Saleh absolute and the Iraqi National List President and the Secretary General of the Movement of Iraqi National Accord Iyad Allawi and other Iraqi figures looking arrangement of a new government after the withdrawal from Maliki.
من جانب آخر نفت كتلة الائتلاف العراقي الموحد التي تقود الحكومة الحالية طرح شروط مسبقة في التفاوض مع الأطراف الراغبة في المشاركة في العملية السياسية في إطار تحقيق المصالحة الوطنية.
On the other hand denied bloc United Iraqi Alliance, which leads the current government put preconditions in negotiating with parties interested in participating in the political process in the framework of national reconciliation.وأكد النائب عن الائتلاف ضياء الدين الفياض فتح قنوات اتصال مع البعثيين وقوى أخرى مستثنيا من وصفهم بالتكفيريين من الحوار.
The deputy said the coalition Ziauddin outpouring open channels of communication with Baathists and other forces, excluding them from Baltkeverien dialogue.
إلى ذلك بدا الديموقراطيون الأمريكيون مستعدين للتخلي عن إصرارهم على إدراج جدول زمني لسحب القوات من العراق في خطوة قد تؤدي إلى حلحلة في المواجهة القائمة مع الرئيس جورج بوش بهذا الشأن.
Democrats began to Americans willing to give up their insistence on the inclusion of a timetable for withdrawing its forces from Iraq in a step that might lead to resolving the confrontation with President George Bush in this regard.وقال عضو ديموقراطي في الكونجرس "باتت الكرة في الملعب الآخر"، مضيفا "أن أي نص يوقع عليه الرئيس سيتضمن نوعا من القيود".
He said democratic member of Congress "is the ball in the playground other," adding that "any text signed by the president will include some sort of restrictions."
من جهته أكد بوش من جديد ثقته في رئيس الوزراء العراقي نوري المالكي وسط شعور بالإحباط من إمكانية إحراز تقدم في العراق.
For his part, Bush reaffirmed his confidence in Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki amid frustration from the possibility of progress in Iraq.وقال المتحدث باسم الرئاسة الأمريكية توني فراتو إن بوش اتصل بالمالكي أول من أمس بمناسبة مرور عام على توليه رئاسة الحكومة". وأكد المالكي من جهته في بيان التزامه بتحقيق مصالحة بين الفصائل المتحاربة في البلاد وإحلال مزيد من الأمن في العاصمة.
A spokesman for the American presidency Tony Fratto that Bush contacted Palmaliki yesterday to mark the first anniversary of the assumption of the presidency of the government. " The Al-Maliki said in a statement its commitment to achieve reconciliation between warring factions in the country and bring about greater security in the capital.Last edited by fredgwest1999; 23-05-2007 at 08:33 AM.
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Constitution Reform Commission pleads Iraqi leaders failed to provide lumps
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عراقية - لجنة إصلاح الدستور العراقي تستغيث بقادة الكتل
Iraqi-Constitution Reform Commission pleads Iraqi leaders lumps
PNA- لم تقدم اللجنة التي كلفها البرلمان العراقي مراجعة الدستور، توصياتها النهائية للبرلمان امس كما كان مقررا، بسبب استمرار الخلافات بين اعضائها الذين قرروا إحالة الأمر الى قادة الكتل السياسية لمعالجة قضايا حساسة مثل اقتسام الثروة النفطية واجتثاث البعث.
PNA-did not provide the mandated Iraqi Parliament review the constitution, final recommendations to Parliament yesterday, as scheduled, because of continuing disagreements between the members who decided to refer the matter to the leaders of the political blocs to address sensitive issues such as the sharing of oil wealth and uprooting the Baath.
وذكرت فرانس بريس ان الجبوري عضو جبهة التوافق كبرى الكتل السياسية السنية في البرلمان، سليم قال ان الجبهة وافقت على بعض المواد، لكنه أشار الى وجود موضوعات حساسة تحتاج الى اتفاق بين الزعماء السياسيين، حسبما افادت وكالة رويترز.
The France-Presse that al-Jabouri member Accord Front major Sunni political blocs in parliament, Salim said that the Front had agreed to some of the material, but he pointed to the presence of sensitive issues require agreement among political leaders, according to Reuters.
وقال الجبوري ان الاعضاء العرب السنة والشيعة في اللجنة، لم يوافقوا على مطلب كردي للسماح للمناطق بتوزيع عائدات النفط بدلا من الحكومة المركزية.
He said that al-Jabouri member Sunni Arabs and Shiites in the Committee did not approve the request to allow the Kurdish regions of the distribution of oil revenues, rather than the central government.كما يعارض بعض النواب من الطائفة الشيعية التي تسيطر على الحكومة بشدة، شغل البعثيين السابقين للوظائف الحكومية.
As opposed to some deputies from the Shiite community, which controls the government, former Baathists to fill government posts.
من جهتهم، يعارض الكورد صياغة تنص على الهوية العربية للعراق.
For their part, opposed Alcord formulation provides the Arab identity of Iraq.
ويخشى العرب السنة أن تسمح الفيدرالية للكورد في الشمال والشيعة في الجنوب حيث توجد احتياطيات العراق النفطية، بالانفصال وتكوين دول مستقلة لهم.
Sunni Arabs fear that allowing federal Cord in the north and Shiites in the south, where Iraq's oil reserves, secession and the formation of independent states.ويعيش غالبية السنة في وسط العراق وغربه؛ وهي مناطق فقيرة نفطيا.
A majority of the year in central and western Iraq; An oil-poor regions.وقال الجبوري إن من بين الموضوعات المختلف عليها وضع مدينة كركوك.
Al-Jabouri said that among the issues disputed status of the city of Kirkuk.وقال مسؤول آخر في اللجنة إن الاعضاء العرب شيعة وسنة يقترحون جعل كركوك منطقة منفصلة والتخلي عن فكرة الاستفتاء التي من المرجح أن يخرج منها الكورد فائزين على أية حال.
He said another official in the Arab members of Shiites and Sunnites SUGGEST make Kirkuk a separate area and abandon the idea of a referendum, which is likely to leave these Alcord winners anyway.وقال المسؤول «بالطبع لا يريد الكورد ذلك لأنهم ما زالوا يريدونها جزءا من منطقتهم التي تتمتع بحكم ذاتي..
The official said «Alcord of course does not want that because they still want part of their autonomous okrugs ..وحدهم القادة السياسيون يستطيعون البت في هذا الامر.
Only political leaders can decide on this matter.هذه قضايا تتسم بحساسية بالغة».
These issues are very sensitive ».
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فشلت في رفع توصياتها للبرلمان بسبب استمرار الخلافاتFailed to submit its recommendations to Parliament because of the continuing differences
بغداد: «الشرق الأوسط»BAGHDAD : «Middle East»
لم تقدم اللجنة التي كلفها البرلمان العراقي مراجعة الدستور، توصياتها النهائية للبرلمان امس كما كان مقررا، بسبب استمرار الخلافات بين اعضائها الذين قرروا إحالة الأمر الى قادة الكتل السياسية لمعالجة قضايا حساسة مثل اقتسام الثروة النفطية واجتثاث البعث.Unless the Commission mandated the Iraqi parliament review the constitution, final recommendations to Parliament yesterday, as scheduled, because of continuing disagreements between the members who decided to refer the matter to the leaders of the political blocs to address sensitive issues such as the sharing of oil wealth and uprooting the Baath.
وقال سليم الجبوري عضو جبهة التوافق كبرى الكتل السياسية السنية في البرلمان، ان الجبهة وافقت على بعض المواد، لكنه أشار الى وجود موضوعات حساسة تحتاج الى اتفاق بين الزعماء السياسيين، حسبما افادت وكالة رويترز.He said Salim al-Jabouri member Accord Front major Sunni political blocs in parliament, the Front agreed to certain materials, but pointed to the existence of sensitive issues require agreement among political leaders, according to Reuters.
وقال الجبوري ان الاعضاء العرب السنة والشيعة في اللجنة، لم يوافقوا على مطلب كردي للسماح للمناطق بتوزيع عائدات النفط بدلا من الحكومة المركزية.He said that al-Jabouri member Sunni Arabs and Shiites in the Committee did not approve the request to allow the Kurdish regions of the distribution of oil revenues, rather than the central government. كما يعارض بعض النواب من الطائفة الشيعية التي تسيطر على الحكومة بشدة، شغل البعثيين السابقين للوظائف الحكومية.As opposed to some deputies from the Shiite community, which controls the government, former Baathists to fill government posts.
من جهتهم، يعارض الأكراد صياغة تنص على الهوية العربية للعراق.For their part, the Kurds opposed formulation provides the Arab identity of Iraq.
ويخشى العرب السنة أن تسمح الفيدرالية للاكراد في الشمال والشيعة في الجنوب حيث توجد احتياطيات العراق النفطية، بالانفصال وتكوين دول مستقلة لهم.Sunni Arabs fear that federalism allows for the Kurds in the north and Shiites in the south, where Iraq's oil reserves, secession and the formation of independent states. ويعيش غالبية السنة في وسط العراق وغربه؛ وهي مناطق فقيرة نفطيا.A majority of the year in central and western Iraq; An oil-poor regions. وقال الجبوري إن من بين الموضوعات المختلف عليها وضع مدينة كركوك.Al-Jabouri said that among the issues disputed status of the city of Kirkuk. وقال مسؤول آخر في اللجنة إن الاعضاء العرب شيعة وسنة يقترحون جعل كركوك منطقة منفصلة والتخلي عن فكرة الاستفتاء التي من المرجح أن يخرج منها الأكراد فائزين على أية حال.He said another official in the Arab members of Shiites and Sunnites SUGGEST make Kirkuk a separate area and abandon the idea of a referendum, which is likely to come from the Kurds winners anyway. وقال المسؤول «بالطبع لا يريد الأكراد ذلك لأنهم ما زالوا يريدونها جزءا من منطقتهم التي تتمتع بحكم ذاتي..The official said «course, the Kurds do not want it because they still want part of their autonomous okrugs .. وحدهم القادة السياسيون يستطيعون البت في هذا الامر.Only political leaders can decide on this matter. هذه قضايا تتسم بحساسية بالغة».These issues are very sensitive ».Last edited by fredgwest1999; 23-05-2007 at 08:46 AM.
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"...the Commission has failed constitutional amendments to find suitable solutions," He explained that "the draft amendment submitted by the Iraqi Accord Front, especially the Islamic Party based on the conviction that the constitution passed in its current form does not serve the interests of the Iraqi people, as pointed out by international parties and the United Nations, and expressed its support and desire to hold the amendment."
"...Only political leaders can decide on this matter. هذه قضايا تتسم بحساسية بالغة».These issues are very sensitive..."
Seems like "RR" was/is right that the passage of these laws will come down to a phone call between the real, political powerbrokers and the MP's will merely vote as directed by their party leadership...everything else is smoke and mirrors.
Seems like such a waiste of everyone's time to pretend this is a democracy...I'm sorry to say...that this is an never ending loop - here's why:
Until the committee presents their bills they can not be acted upon by anyone in Parliament and now the committee says it can not do this because it's way above their paygrade to make such decisions and the political leadership can't act till the committee submits their bills to Parliament...
Is that all clear in a looped-loopy sort of way?!?Last edited by fredgwest1999; 23-05-2007 at 08:58 AM.
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