Thread: Iraq/Dinar News. 09/05 to 01/14/07

Originally Posted by CharmedPiper

But they can reval anytime now until the FIL...right???

yes

Originally Posted by opps50

This is the 3rd reading and voting takes place on the 12th

After voting I guess they will pass the FIL (hopefully direct after the vote) and as we have agreed before FIL - reval

but that article said that guy was telling them they had to have it done by the 10 of month of ramadan. thats before the 12th.

I guess so

probably at the same time, next week or so

Hope that after the vote they pass the FIL and it will go into effect direct and not dragged on their tables. I have no idea how these things work

Originally Posted by CharmedPiper

But they can reval anytime now until the FIL...right???

$20 million Iraq victory party
U.S. budgets for 'commemoration of success'

October 5, 2006
BY ANNE PLUMMER FLAHERTY
WASHINGTON -- The military's top generals have warned Iraq is on the cusp of a civil war and that U.S. troops must remain in large numbers until at least next spring.
But if the winds suddenly blow a different direction, Congress is ready to celebrate with a $20 million victory party.

Lawmakers included language in this year's defense spending bill, approved last week, allowing them to spend the money.

The funds for ''commemoration of success'' in Iraq and Afghanistan were originally tucked into last year's defense measure, but they went unspent amid an uptick in violence in both countries that forced the Pentagon to extend tours of duty for thousands of troops.

Senate Majority Whip Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is the original sponsor of the provision, which Democrats agreed to add to last year's defense bill. Senate Republicans kept the authorization in the 2007 bill. With elections five weeks away, Democrats are pointing to it as another example of where the GOP has gone astray in handling the war in Iraq.

''If the Bush administration is planning victory celebrations, Americans deserve to know what their plan is to get us to a victory in Iraq,'' said Rebecca Kirszner, spokeswoman for Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).

McConnell's spokesman, Don Stewart, said he thought the finger-pointing by Democrats was silly because the provision was added last year by unanimous consent.

''Apparently they were for honoring the troops before they were against it,'' Stewart said. AP

Copyright 2006 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: World :: $20 million Iraq victory party

Thursday, October 05, 2006
U.S. Marines battle rumor mill in Iraq PDF | Print | E-mail

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Daily Herald
Antonio Castaneda

The Associated Press

HADITHA, Iraq -- Word spread quickly: A Marine search dog had escaped and was roaming the streets attacking children. But the Marines didn't have any dogs in Haditha at the time.

Nevertheless, Marines found themselves having to quash yet another of the baseless rumors that often sweep this city of about 50,000 people, most of them Sunni Arabs wary of U.S. intentions in Iraq.

Rumors -- most of them maligning U.S. troops -- are a staple of life in the embattled, isolated cities of Anbar province, a region that is a center of the Sunni Arab-led insurgency and where telephones don't work and newspapers rarely appear.

Many residents are afraid to visit other parts of the country such as Baghdad, 140 miles to the southeast, for fear they'll run afoul of Shiite death squads.

In their isolation, most people rely on Arab television networks such as Al-Jazeera for news of the outside world. For local news, the main medium is word of mouth.

No one is sure how the dog rumor started but soon terrified people were complaining to tribal leaders about a violent animal on the loose. The director of the city hospital even told reporters that seven children had been bitten.

The Americans must be to blame, many people concluded.

"We heard this from the people about dogs roaming the street, the market, that have bitten 20 people," one tribal leader was overheard complaining to a Marine officer.

"Well, they're not our dogs. We'd know if they were ours," replied Capt. Andy Lynch of Chicago, a company commander in the 3rd Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment.

That didn't satisfy the sheik, who insisted: "Our dogs don't bite."

Lynch told him the Marines didn't have any search dogs in Haditha. And if they had any, he added, they would have searchers out in force if one got loose. Military search dogs "cost more to train than a Marine," he joked.

The sheik was eventually convinced that if there were dogs on the prowl, they were probably packs of strays that regularly roam the city.

Half-truths are often the source of many rumors.

Earlier this year, Marines accidentally started fires in two fields in Haditha by shooting warning flares at approaching cars. But insurgents or skeptical residents inflated the story into something much different.

"The people were talking about how the Marines were going and setting people's crops on fire," Lynch said. "Then we had to go out and explain the whole thing."

The city's sectarian makeup makes it a fertile ground for anti-American rumors.

Haditha and most of Anbar is dominated by Sunni Arabs, whose minority was long dominant in Iraq but fell from power with the toppling of Saddam Hussein. Now their longtime rivals in the Shiite majority lead the government and military.

Some of the hostility may also stem from the Marines' own actions. Marines based in Haditha last year allegedly killed 24 civilians after one of their comrades died in a roadside bombing. The Marine Corps is still investigating and no charges have been filed.

Local people are more likely to believe their fellow Sunnis -- even those in the insurgency -- than strangers like Marines.

"I think there's definitely more of a burden (on Marines) that we're telling the truth, compared to the guy who's on the street spreading rumors, because we're not from here," Lynch said.

Regardless of the reasons, rumors and misinformation make it harder for the Marines to win trust and cooperation of Sunni civilians.

Last summer, Marines launched a drive to recruit a new city police force. A number of people told reporters that Marines were forcing men to sign up.

"The only thing we can do is go out and speak the truth," Lynch said. "We can dispel a lot of rumors just by our actions."

This story appeared in The Daily Herald on page A11.

Daily Herald - U.S. Marines battle rumor mill in Iraq

Good Morning Everybody

Thanks for all the research done last night!!

I understand what Oops50 is talking about being "poor folks". It's a term we use on the farm here. So let me explain what we mean: Folks like us have the world but not the money per say. So the Dinar RV will give us the money. Example us "poor folks" go to the grocery store with coupons!! We stock on sale items, we by cloth off the 70% off rack at JC Pennys. BUT we have love, laugher, moral values, and smarts to go with it. With all of these "we" are already the rich's people in the world. NOW when the Dinar RV's will we change? Maybe alittle but we will still have the basics that we have used for years and probably still use coupons at the store.

This is sooooo unreal to us here on the farm that it blows our minds, this doesn't happen to folks like us in our life time. We were at the right place to find out about the Dinar, took the chance, and it looks to be a huge return!

So for all the folks out there that are like us - keep the love, laugher coming to your kids, grandkids, family and friends because when this RV's we sure can put alot of "smiles" on peoples faces. We plan on giving back to a few folks that touched our lives.

Here to the "poor folks" that will have the best of both Worlds for years to come.!!

Grandma Chris

Whilst they can r/v anytime don't forget that IF they pass the FIL on the 12th there that doesn't necessarily mean it is enacted at that point. There may well be a 'period' of time like a month or so before it becomes enacted.

Just wanted to make that clear.

Originally Posted by shotgunsusie

no, those are three articles that i found at aswataliraq that i posted together in a post, lol. sorry. just was bein lazy.

susie, you should not use my name in vain........no wait a second,......excuse me, i'm sorry, you didn't say "just was bein damn lazy"..............OK, go ahead carry on....keep up the good work!!!!

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US CODE: Title 26,988. Treatment of certain foreign currency transactions

Congress ready for `success' in Iraq
Earmarks $20M for celebration

Funds originally set aside last year
Oct. 5, 2006. 01:00 AM
ANNE PLUMMER FLAHERTY
ASSOCIATED PRESS


WASHINGTON—The military's top generals have warned Iraq is on the cusp of a civil war and that U.S. troops must remain in large numbers until at least next spring. But if the winds suddenly blow a different direction, Congress is ready to celebrate with a $20 million victory party.

Lawmakers included language in this year's defence spending bill, approved last week, allowing them to spend the money. The funds for "commemoration of success" in Iraq and Afghanistan were originally tucked into last year's defence measure, but went unspent amid an uptick in violence in both countries that forced the Pentagon to extend tours of duty for thousands of troops.

Republicans have yet to claim responsibility for the provision. Democrats say it was likely added by the Senate's majority Republicans.

Under the language, the president could "designate a day of celebration" to honour troops serving in the two wars. The president also could call on the nation "to observe that day with appropriate ceremonies and activities" and issue awards to troops who have served honourably.

The Pentagon could spend up to $20 million of its $532 billion (U.S.) budget in 2007 for the commemoration, minus any private contributions it might receive for such an event.

The money will be available for the 2007 budget year, which began Oct. 1.

Some 140,000 U.S. troops remain in Iraq, with a drawdown not expected until at least early next year.

About 20,000 more are in Afghanistan. Last year, Bush administration and Pentagon officials had hoped thousands of troops could be brought home before the Nov. 7 elections.

Proclaiming victory in the Iraq war has proven to be tricky business.

President George W. Bush was slammed by critics for delivering his ``Mission Accomplished" speech in May 2003 aboard an aircraft carrier. Vice-President Dick Cheney also was ridiculed for suggesting last year that the insurgency was in its "final throes.''

TheStar.com - Congress ready for `success' in Iraq
is it just me or is there a reason we are making such a big deal out of this right now and why we JUST NOW found out about it??? rather odd timing i would say...