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    Quote Originally Posted by terry853 View Post
    I agree OZ, but a dime would give the average Iraq citizen a good chunk of coin and not stress the Iraqi bank.
    *they will revalue at the value that iraq is worth NOW. (#1 ag producer in region, #1 date production, #1 'potential' in the middle east.)

    *"potential" gotta factor that in too. (#1 oil reserves in the world, #1 natural gas reserves in the world, most educated country in middle east, largest food source in the middle east, etc.)

    *the world demands more energy sources everyday

    take those three things into consideration and to even fathom as small an amount as a dime is quite silly.

    believe me, iraq has the world by the perverbial cahoneys.
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    IMHO a Reval of a dime without it being on the forex now wouldnt help them anyway. im sure if the big oil companies have the money to buy iraq at its current rate they have enough to buy it at a dime as well. yes it would help the people of iraq with there current problems but would cost them dearly in the long run

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry853 View Post
    I agree OZ, but a dime would give the average Iraq citizen a good chunk of coin and not stress the Iraqi bank.
    What ever rate they decide on, they better revalue before some poor Iraqi goes and spends his 10,000 dinars on a gas for the car or a piece of meat and a Pepsi. Talk about some unhappy people if you just spent your $7.00 and found out it's now worth $12,000.00.

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    Iraqi Leader Wants Militias Eradicated
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    BAGHDAD, Iraq October 5, 2006, 11:12 p.m. ET · Political parties must either get rid of their militias or get out of politics, Iraq's prime minister said Thursday, in his toughest warning yet to groups blamed for the country's wave of sectarian violence.

    Ahead of talks with Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice on how to stop the wave of Shiite-Sunni killings in Iraq, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki told The Associated Press he was "optimistic" a political solution will be found to persuade militias to dissolve.

    But once an agreement is reached, "the political solution must be obligatory, one that all parties adhere to," he said. "The presence of parties with militias in the government is not acceptable."

    "The political parties must obey the decisions of the government or else get out of the political process. I don't believe there is any power that wants to leave the political process," he said, speaking during an "iftar" dinner, the meal that ends the daily Ramadan fast.

    About three dozen people attended the special iftar, held amid intense security in a dining room in the compound of Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, the head of the largest party in the Shiite coalition that dominates the government.

    Outside, hundreds of guards from al-Hakim's party -- Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq -- were deployed in the streets throughout the south Baghdad neighborhood, carrying automatic weapons. SCIRI is accused of running its own militia, the Badr Brigade, though the party says it has been dissolved.

    Among those present were al-Maliki's Cabinet, parliament members -- mainly from the Shiite coalition and a few Kurds and Sunnis -- and a few officials from the tribunal trying Saddam Hussein. They were served up with a feast of roast fish and meats with rice, followed by a wide spread of fruits and sweets and tea.

    Al-Maliki is under intensified pressure to find an end to the Shiite-Sunni violence that has killed thousands of people this year and has threatened to tear the country apart. The killings have continued despite the prime minister's repeated calls for them to dissolve.

    Several Shiite parties in al-Maliki's government have militias -- some of them blamed for grisly kidnapping-murders that nearly every day leave tortured and bound bodies of Sunnis dumped in neighborhoods of the capital.

    Shiites have argued that militias are needed to protect them against Sunni insurgents who have targeted their community with brutal attacks against mosques, markets and other public areas. Shiite leaders have accused Sunni parties in the government of links to the insurgency. U.S. and Iraqi commanders have also said that some militia fighters may no longer be under the control of the parties, carrying out killings on their own.

    Al-Maliki has frequently called for militias to be dissolved, insisting that weapons must only be in the hands of national security forces. But Sunni leaders have accused the government of balking at moving forcefully against Shiite militias because of their links to the government.

    This past week, the government has taken new steps to show it is serious in tackling sectarian violence.

    Iraqi authorities on Wednesday pulled a brigade of about 700 policemen out of service in its biggest move ever to uproot troops linked to death squads. The brigade is suspected of allowing gunmen to kidnap 24 workers from a frozen food factory in a district of Baghdad where the Shiite Mahdi Army militia is known to have considerable power. The bodies of seven workers were found in another Baghdad district hours later; the fate of the others is unknown.

    The suspended 8th Brigade has been ordered out of the field, and the U.S. military said they will undergo retraining while some members will be put under investigation.

    Al-Maliki underlined that only a political solution can bring a stop to the violence.

    "The dissolving of militias cannot just be a matter of force. It requires many means to reach the goal, persuading the militias to dissolve themselves. That is better," he said. "The dissolution of militias must be through the political powers."

    Meanwhile, Human Rights Watch said Thursday that an armed Shiite group has threatened to kill Palestinian refugees living in Baghdad if they do not leave Iraq within 72 hours.

    The New York-based group said it had obtained a leaflet from a group calling itself Al-Bayt Revenge Brigade Rapid Response Units that stated: "There is no place for Palestinians in the Iraq of Ali, Hassan, and Hussain." The names refer to three revered Shiite imams.

    There was no indication when the time period began. The leaflet, the rights group said, urged the Palestinian refugees to leave and "fight occupation in your own country."

    The rights groups said that over the past two years, Iraqi governments have done little to protect Palestinian refugees, and some officials have claimed that they are involved in terrorism and supporting the insurgency.
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    Rice in talks on Iraq bloodshed
    By Arshad Mohammed and Ross Colvin in Baghdad

    October 06, 2006 12:00

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    US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has urged Iraqi leaders overnight to end their "political inaction" and put aside their differences to rein in sectarian violence that threatens to tear apart the country.

    Her visit, which is part of a Middle East tour, will focus new attention on Iraq in the United States at a time when President George W. Bush's administration is on the defensive over the war in campaigning for next month's congressional elections.

    Three years after US forces invaded to topple Saddam Hussein, Iraq is gripped by an unrelenting Sunni insurgency and sectarian killings that Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's Shi'ite-led national unity government is struggling to contain.

    The US military and Iraqi government meanwhile denied reports that al Qaeda's leader in Iraq was killed in a raid on a safe house in western Iraq this week but said DNA tests would be conducted on bodies recovered from the scene to make sure.

    Ms Rice flew in to Baghdad on an unannounced mission to meet the national unity government she helped forge earlier this year but which has failed to deliver on promises of improved security and services and ending chronic fuel shortages.

    "Our role ... is to support all the parties and indeed to press all of the parties to work towards that resolution quickly, because obviously the security situation is not one that can be tolerated and is not one that is being helped by political inaction," she told reporters travelling with her.

    Mr Maliki unveiled a vague four-point deal on Monday with Sunni leaders and fellow Shi'ites that focuses on all-party local committees to bridge distrust between the Sunni and Shi'ite sects and stem the violence that kills hundreds every week.

    The Baghdad morgue said it had received 1440 bodies in September, 85 per cent of them victims of violence. This was a drop on the 1550 it reported in August and the 1815 in July.

    The United Nations, which adds the morgue figures to the numbers of hospital deaths from the Health Ministry, has said 6599 Iraqis were killed in July and August, 700 more than in the previous two months.

    The US has increased pressure on Mr Maliki's government in recent weeks to stamp out militias blamed for many of the deaths and who Sunni leaders say often act in collusion with the Shi'ite-dominated police force.

    Mr Maliki has vowed to disband the militias, some of which are tied to parties within his own government. But the difficulty of his task was underlined this week when the 8th National Police Brigade was pulled off the streets of the capital, some of its members accused of complicity in hit squad attacks.

    "It ought to be very clear to everybody – and I think it's especially clear to the Iraqi government – that these are urgent matters that they have to take on with great urgency," Rice said.

    The US ambassador to Iraq, Zalmay Khalilzad, said this week that the main threat to Iraq was now from sectarian violence and that the four-month-old national unity government had just two more months to start containing it.

    Ms Rice stressed that she was in Baghdad to show her support for Mr Maliki, whom she described as a "very good and strong prime minister", and said after their meeting that the United States remained a "committed friend" of Iraq.

    Dismissing claims by several Iraqi politicians that al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Ayyub al-Masri and several associates were killed in a US air strike this week, US military spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Barry Johnson said: "We believe he is still alive."

    Mr Masri, an Egyptian who is also known as Abu Hamza al- Muhajir, assumed the leadership of al Qaeda in Iraq after Jordanian Abu Musab al-Zarqawi died in a US air strike in June.

    "There was a raid recently where we thought he may have been among those killed, but now we think it is highly unlikely," Colonel Johnson said. "We are going to rule out the possibility altogether by doing DNA tests
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    US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's whirlwind tour of Ramallah and Jerusalem was seen as a stepped-up effort by the Bush administration to reinvigorate the Israeli-Palestinian peace process and build up a moderate coalition in the Middle East.
    Bolstering Abbas against Hamas

    Rice intended to support Palestinian National Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and, consequently, solidify a moderate alliance in the region as a counterbalance to deal with Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas.

    Rice's tour came at a time when Abbas' Fatah movement has engaged in a bloody conflict with the ruling Hamas movement. The Fatah-Hamas street conflict spilled over the Gaza Strip and the West Bank and claimed at least 12 lives and injured over 100. The clash slip into the verge of a civil war.

    Rice called for strengthening security forces loyal to Abbas. Official sources revealed on Thursday that the United States has allocated 20 million dollars for improving security around Abbas. The plan was initiated by the U.S. security coordinator, General Keith Dayton, and presented during a meeting between Rice and Abbas.

    While in a meeting with Rice in Jerusalem on Thursday, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that Israel was interested in helping Abbas, and Israel would soon open the Karni commercial crossing into the Gaza Strip as well as the Rafah crossing between the Gaza Strip and Egypt for the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

    According to Israeli Defense Minister Amir Peretz, who met Rice Thursday morning, Israel would ease humanitarian conditions in the territories so long as it does not harm its security interests.

    Building up moderate coalition

    In an effort to rally moderate forces in the Middle East, Rice also visited Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Iraq.

    "When Lebanon (conflict) happened, I think (we) got in very stark relief a clear indication that there are extremist forces and moderate forces," she told reporters as she was en route to Saudi Arabia.

    She said that "the countries that we are meeting ... is a group that you would expect to support the emerging moderate forces in Lebanon, in Iraq, and in the Palestinian territories. And so I look forward to consulting with them on how we strengthen these forces and what needs to be done."

    On Tuesday, Rice met in Cairo with foreign ministers of six Gulf Arab states, Egypt and Jordan in a mini-summit to coalesce moderate Arab states in the region.

    Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit said that no differences of opinion emerged during the meeting, since all the participants are friendly states. "Our purpose is peace, stability and development in the region. The aim is the establishment of a Palestinian state," he added.

    Pursuing tough stance against Iran

    The United States claims that extremism in the Middle East poses as much threat to itself as to moderate Arab regimes.

    Shortly after landing in Saudi Arabia Tuesday morning to kickoff her Mideast tour, Rice told reporters, "The international community will have no option but to force sanctions on Iran if it does not suspend its uranium enrichment program."

    "I hope that there is still room to resolve this," she said at a joint news conference with Egypt's Ahmed Abul Gheit. "But the international community is running out of time because soon its own credibility will be a matter of question."

    Rice said if Iran fails to comply with international demands, "then the only choice for the international community is to live up to the terms of resolution 1696 ... and that means to bring sanctions."
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    Maliki : : Disarmament would, however, the government only
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    06 / 10 / 06
    Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki in his office Thursday afternoon and American Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, it was an exchange of views on a number of issues that concern the two countries.
    The Prime Minister said that the initiative of reconciliation and national dialogue has turned into a political engine to solve difficult problems in a number of governorates of Iraq, such as Anbar, Diyala .



    The Prime Minister pointed to the two clans and civil society organizations to prepare for the convening of a third political forces on the 21st of this month, the Mecca of religious scholars, referring to the agreement signed by the political blocs, which called for the suspension bled Iraq.

    The Maliki of the government's determination to deal with the terrorists with all force through the development of the capabilities of the security agencies and military, pointing out that the arms in the hands of government alone and work to contain the militia issue .

    The Prime Minister said that the Iraqi government was determined to establish the best relations with neighboring countries on the basis of common interests and that Iraq would not be a conduit for harm to any of our neighboring countries with regional assertion that the sovereignty of Iraq will be the subject of discussion with any party .

    For her part, the American Secretary of State on the need for continued cooperation between the two countries in various areas and the readiness of the United States to provide various types of support to the Iraqi government to solve the problems they face. Al-Maliki, subject to enormous pressure to put an end to the killings and the Shiite-Sunni which devastated Ar s for months despite calls for government-linked militias, many of which parties participate in government-to disarm.

    At the same said the American Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, it is not the leaders of Iraq, "the time for endless arguments on those issues. now they have to move already. "

    Al-Maliki said in a statement to the Associated Press that "the disbanding should be through political forces. There is more than one way lead to a solution, and the militias that resolved itself. "

    Al-Maliki added : "militias do not obey the government. The political parties have militias, It is a part of the government and participates in the political process. The parties were required to solve the militias. "

    The Al-Maliki has repeatedly called for the disbanding and insists disarmament should be in the hands of the national security forces only. However, the leaders accuse the government remiss year against the Shiite militias. , which blamed much of the violence since it was linked to Shiite political parties.

    The statements made by the al-Maliki a day after the Iraqi government to withdraw a unit of the police forces from the streets of Baghdad. Meanwhile, a spokesman for the American forces to withdraw the unit due to "the possibility of" conniving "to allow" for the units of the death squads to move freely, "instead of confronting them.

    He said Major-General "William Caldwell, The Interior Ministry announced late Tuesday, "summoning the 8th Brigade of the National Police two."

    This move comes on summoning the 8th Brigade Amid increasing concern to penetrate Shiite death squads of Iraqi police forces.
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    The bombing of the Baghdad Airport last Plane Lands Rice
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    Arrived, the American Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, to Baghdad on Thursday in a visit was not declared previously, delayed plane landing in Baghdad International Airport by launching "indirect fire" at the airport. according to what was said by the spokesman of the State Department.
    Sean McCormick said that the plane from landing Rice delayed about half an hour, The indirect fire were either missile attack or an attack using mortar shells.

    Rice's visit comes the sudden and undeclared this during her visit to the Middle East, which would take weeks, as both the tour included Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

    It will cover her visit to Iraq security and political issues.

    Rice said that "the security situation is not the situation that can be tolerated, and not to deal with him politically, did not help to resolve, Therefore That is the message that is trying to Iraqi Prime Minister delivery, which we also try to get across to others. "

    Rice added, saying that "time is very critical for the Iraqi government, I think, especially at a time it works to achieve national unity and reconciliation plan. I just want to see what we can do to support these efforts to talk with the Prime Minister (Nuri) Al-Maliki, and support. "

    Bamaliki met Rice and the Iraqi President, Jalal Talabani.

    The American Secretary of State had left the Tel Aviv late Thursday morning, and stopped at the Incirlik air base in Turkey. She flew to Baghdad, and then transported by helicopter to the Green Zone, where an American military command.

    The Iraqi official, told CNN that Rice reached the Iraqi capital, in a surprise visit was not declared previously.

    The last visit of Rice to Iraq was in the month of April last, when she and British Foreign Minister at that time. Jack Straw, were making their efforts to assist the Iraqi leaders to start the process of forming a government of national unity.

    This visit comes amid American pressure on the Iraqi government with a view to putting an end to sectarian congestion that is tearing the country apart.

    Rice arrived Baghdad coming from Israel, via Turkey, where she met with Israeli Foreign Minister, Zvi Livne, and the defense minister. Beriz Umer, also met with Israeli Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert.

    Previously, Rice met with the President of the Palestinian Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, as it seeks to provide Arab support him, especially in its endeavor to solve the political tensions with the Hamas movement, leading Palestinian government in the wake of her victory in the general elections held nine months ago.
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    Uncertainty about the fate of the leader of Al-Qaeda in Iraq »between the Iraqi officials and Americans to the exclusion of his murder
    Source : Middle East
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    Mystery yesterday fate Egyptian Abu Ayub, the leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq », - Iraqi officials to confirm his death in an air raid this week and the exclusion of the American Army, and that students waiting for the results of DNA analysis of a body of the suspect.
    He said Lieutenant Colonel Barry Johnson, spokesman for the American army in Iraq for Egyptian

    Al believe that he was still alive »He told Reuters Al raided and we thought it might have been among the dead. We are still conducting DNA testing (DE. That. Er), but we do not believe that coalition forces killed the Egyptian ». He said specialists out completely after a DNA analysis ».
    It was Hassan Al-Sunaid deputy in the parliament and near the Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, as well as the second source in the Prime Minister's Office, asked not to be identified, have said that the Egyptian, also known as Abu Hamza Al-Muhajir »and the leadership of Al Qaeda» in Iraq after the killing of Jordanian Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in an American air raid in June (June), American was killed in an attack on Al cache »in the modern western Iraq. Al-Sunaid said that two days before the killing of three people in an air raid on the modern, it was clear yesterday that analyzes DNA Egypt was one of them.

    But a prominent official in the government said that that is not real ». He said Mohamed military spokesman for the Ministry of Defense confirmed that the American forces examined the body apparently is not the body of Abu Ayoub said.

    He said another assistant to the owners that the DNA tests are still in the process of the bodies. He told Reuters that the tests indicate that one of the people killed was a leading organization of Al-Qaeda », but not Egyptian.

    There was no immediate explanation for the contradiction between official statements. It is the government of Al-Maliki under increasing pressure, especially from Washington to make progress in ending armed operations and sectarian violence that has killed thousands. Muwaffaq Rubaie, the Iraqi national security adviser had said earlier this month that the Egyptian days are numbered. He said Al Johnson, trying to approach him every day and we believe we do it ».

    The operations of Al Qaeda »about 5% of the operations carried out by armed fighters year, but the organization of suicide bombings caused some of the worst acts of violence which usually kills more than one hundred people in a single attack. , And accuses the American army of Al-Qaeda »raising sectarian conflict in Iraq, which put the year in the face of the Shiites and raised fears of all-out civil war. In the most recent recording is broadcast via the Internet, he said that more than four thousand foreign fighters have been killed in Iraq during the fighting forces led by the United States and the government in Baghdad. He urged militants to Al Jihad increase »in Iraq during the current month of Ramadan.

    So, American forces announced yesterday the arrest of former Egyptian driver with 31 others in a series of raids late last month. A military statement reported by the French Press Agency that Al coalition forces arrested the driver of former Egyptian Abu Ayub with 31 others during a series of raids targeting the activities of Al Qaeda in Baghdad in September 28 (September) last ».

    He said that the intelligence information confirming his participation in the bombings Asthvdt red and the Sheraton hotel in Baghdad last year, which claimed the lives of 16 people dead and 65 wounded ».

    He said that the Iraqi government has arrested after a videotape broadcast during the Egyptian-trained terrorists on how to booby-trap car », He said that the driver had been working directly with the Egyptian When the tape was filmed ». He continued, "The arrest was a result of information obtained by the coalition forces of one of the close associates of the Egyptian detainees had been arrested on September 12 (September)» without giving further details.
    The following are some basic facts about the al-Qaeda leader in Iraq Abu Ayub Egyptian also known as Abu Hamza Muhajir :

    The statement was issued in June (June) bears the signature of Al-Qaida stated that the Mujahideen Shura Council of Al-Qaeda in Iraq and approved unanimously to be Sheikh Abu Hamza Muhajir successor to Sheikh Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

    Description of the American army that Egyptian Assistant close to Al-Zarqawi trained in Afghanistan and the fact that the first cell of the Al-Qaeda Organization in Baghdad. It was previously included on a list of 29 most wanted them to the American army.

    The newspaper loyal to the government of pictures of the Egyptian on a poster. It seemed like a small lean him wearing a scarf traditionally Arab in a picture and another picture was wearing glasses and a green jacket.

    In late June (June) United States offered a reward of five million dollars for whoever provides information leading to the arrest of the Egyptian.

    The Arab television channel in September (September) that the Al Qaeda wing in Iraq broadcast a video tape on the Internet for a new leader, read a statement before the killing of a Turkish hostage. The clips appeared in three masked has stood behind the hostage, who sat on a seat. The descendants of a banner with the word black is a god but God ». In a statement accompanying the leader of the Al-Qaeda organization in Iraq is one of the three masked.

    Egyptian club last week of kidnapping Westerners to the target man Muslim cleric jailed in the United States urged jihad fighters to increase during the month of Ramadan.

    Muwaffaq Rubaie said the Iraqi National Security Advisor early this week that the Iraqi security forces approaching from the Egyptian and will be able to soon. The spring of snapshots of what he Egyptian equipped car bomb.

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