Thread: Iraq/Dinar News. 09/05 to 01/14/07

Originally Posted by shotgunsusie

148

Can i get a WOOT WOOT........And all the people said WOOT WOOT.
LIT

caymens im there!!!!!! im already rsvping

9 for October, 10 for end of the year!

Defo up for a r/v party 10 November, :0) Look for the big bloke who's lost his hair through the dinar stresses, lol.

I have been feeling really good about this happening with all the good news articles and info. I have started looking for places to invest my money.
Hope it is soon.
LIT

i for one am a 10 on it being in october

Have your say: Do Kurds give up their oil revenue and areas outside KRG?

Friday, October 06, 2006

KurdishMedia.com

London (KurdishMedia.com) 06 October 2006: In the last few days the high profile visits were made to the Kurdistan autonomous region, including the visit by the US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. In addition the Turkish Prime Minister and the Iraqi Prime Minister separately met with the US President George Bush.

These meetings came after the Kurdish leadership’s assertions of accession over ownership of the oil revenues and after issuing the proposed Kurdistan constitution in which Kurdish areas outside the currently Kurdish control are included into Kurdistan.

Rice visited in particular the Kurdistan’s President, Massoud Barzani, less than two weeks after the regional government threatened to break away from Iraq in a dispute over ownership of regional oil.

In the press conference that followed the meeting with Rice, it was noticed that Barzani did not repeat recent assertions that Kurdistan alone should control new contracts and business arrangements for oil pumped in the region.

Furthermore, there are other indications showing that there are plans to reduce Kurds and slowly diminish them. For example, recently a committee has been set up to review the Iraqi Constitution, which may eliminate any rights that Kurds gained in the past, eg federalism. Now Arabs claim that the Kurdish areas outside Kurdistan are not Kurdish and they demand abolishment of Article 140 of the Iraqi constitution regarding de-Arabisation of these areas, in particular the Kurdish province of Kirkuk.

Do you think that the Turks and the Iraqi government use the US administration to force Kurds to give up their right of Kurdish oil and areas outside KRG forever?

Do you think that the American Ambassador’s opinion about the Kurdish leadership is accurate when he called them “carpet sellers”, implying the Kurds show big things but never take much home?

In a case like this, do you think that the Kurdish people will rebel against their leadership or they will just follow their leadership?

Do you think that the US administration is still the same US that used and abused Kurds and then dumped them for slaughtering by the regional powers? Do you think that the US is serious about democratisation of the Middle East or still favours the rule of Arabs, Persians and Turks over Kurds, i.e. keeping Kurds slaves?

Do you think that the Kurdistani block in the Iraqi Assembly is effective? Do you know what this block do or what they have achieved?

What do you think? Have your say!

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Have your say: Do Kurds give up their oil revenue and areas outside KRG? (KurdishMedia.com)

Hi Mike,
Is this yours? Cool!


Your replies:

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"It appears to me they Kurd's should hold more power in parliament than they now do for they have demonstrated for 15 years that they know how to get down to business, not all the tit for tat BS we hear in Baghdad.

As I see it, the Kurd's should be the decision makers on oil in region, and yes, share in revenues must be part of it, but they have demonstrated they can prosper without Baghdad, so rather than fighting over the oil, and who should get what, an agreement to share a percentage of revenues with the poor regions without oil would be justified to insure peace.

The best way to handle all these divided regions is to divide them, simple. Yes, they can all be under one umbrella of Iraq, but separate regions are the choice of the people, so let it be. Hatred between sects has been part of Middle East history since the beginning of time, so this will never change, so give the people what they want, but share the oil revenues and problems will be resolved almost overnight.

Doesn't it always come down to money? The poor demonstrate they have nothing to live for, so they blow themselves up, solve this issue and the killing is contained. You eliminate the poor, you eliminate the killings.

Separate the sectarian groups as a matter of choice, the peoples choice, and the problems of hate diminish. Democracy is one thing, but to think anyone outside of region can make peace is a joke. Let the people vote on separation and let the government determine how oil wealth is to be shared equally, problem resolved."

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"Oil" is to address the emergency room crisis gasoline


Voices of Iraq : Baghdad
A spokesman for the Ministry of Oil : The ministry formed the "emergency room" to deal with the new gasoline crisis, which began with the end of curfew that was imposed a few days ago in the capital, Baghdad.
Assem Jihad, said that the ministry quoted yesterday 100 tanker oil from the south to Baghdad urgently fill the shortfall, The tonnage of these tanks around 3,5 million liters of gasoline.
He added : that similar action will be taken within the next few days, pending the return of Iraqi production in the refineries to normal.
The Jihad said in previous statements to the crisis caused by several elements : the first curfew sudden, imposed on Baghdad last Friday until Sunday morning, and generated high demand on the stations.
He also pointed out that the power outages led to a rise in demand for gasoline to operate generators on one hand, Moreover, he caused the suspension of the production of local refineries, which were produced between "12-11" million liters of gasoline per day. In addition to the disruption of warehouses belonging to the Ministry of Oil because of electricity blackouts.
In relation to the Oil Ministry announced yesterday that it had concluded new contracts for the importation of additional quantities of kerosene for the city of Baghdad, after dragging its feet for Iran to export two million liters per day to the city.
He said Assem Jihad, spokesman of the Ministry of Oil : The Iraqi Oil Minister Hussein Shahrastani instructed the company to export oil "SOMO" to conclude new contracts to import additional quantities of kerosene for the city of Baghdad following the bold implementation of the contract with Iran provides for importing two million liters of white oil per day.
He explained that there Jihad administrative procedures for crossing the border Zorbatiyah prevented the implementation of the contract with Iran is true, , which demonstrated the need to import quantities plan covers games for the distribution of kerosene.

Translated version of http://www.newsabah.com/

Originally Posted by Adster

Ok, bit of fun, and maybe a new thread should be started for our guesses......

I'll say 20th October for a r/v. No rumour, just a guesstimate!

I will stick with the end of Ramadan Tuesday the 24th. It will be the best birthday present EVER!!!!!

Originally Posted by Adster

Mike,

What are your Kurd contacts thoughts on Maliki???? Am interested. Personally I think he's done a top job under extreme circumstances, a lot better than Jaafari who held up the r/v and had links with Iran......

On a report today from what I am gathering from it, the Kurds are what the hold up is. Rice went there today and told them basically to quit trying to be greedy. That the oil belongs to all of Iraq.

The Kurds have been threatening to go solo, and this will never happen according to the report. Rice told them to work with the Central Government Now!! If they listen again according to the report, everything will move forward as a whole.

I am not a expert here on this situation, but this is what was reported today.

My guess is the US got OZ's email and sent Rice there to get the Kurds thinking more into the equal for all the country, instead of the Greed that they are trying to show.

I believe with most that the Kurds could run the country by them selves. BUT. They are not the elected Prime Minisiter in charge. And they are causing a slow movement of the country by stalling the system also.

Sorry, but this is what was said. Just passing it on.

The part in Red is what I was Posting about. Good it is already here.

Originally Posted by Adster

Rice Pushes Iraqis to Defuse Violence
Visiting Baghdad, Secretary Cites Urgency of Improving Security, Reconciling Rivals

By Robin Wright
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 6, 2006; 6:54 AM

BAGHDAD, Oct. 6 -- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, making an unannounced visit to Iraq, urged the embattled government to accelerate efforts to foster national reconciliation and help end sectarian violence.

She emphasized her concerns with a trip Friday to the Kurdish north, where regional officials said privately that there is much growing sentiment for independence as violence increases in the rest of Iraq.

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Rice Thursday warned that Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's six-month-old administration has reached a "critical time" and needs to make faster progress to defuse the turmoil. A day earlier, U.S. military officials announced that the number of planted bombs in Iraq had reached "an all-time high" and that at least 24 U.S. soldiers had been killed since Saturday.

"The security situation is not one that can be tolerated and is not one that is helped by political inaction," Rice told reporters traveling with her.

Although Rice did not give a timeline, Sen. John W. Warner (R-Va.) warned Thursday that the United States should explore a "change of course" if the security situation in Iraq does not improve over the next 90 days.

"If these movements now being taken by the Iraqi leadership and their government do not bring about a reduction in the killings and all of the other disruption and do not point to a clear direction that Iraq is going . . . then I think we have to make some bold decisions here in our country, but make them in a way so that we don't allow this land of Iraq to be torn up and fall into the hands of terrorists," Warner, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said at a news conference in Washington after returning from his own trip to Iraq.

After talks with Rice, Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari acknowledged that Washington is expressing growing impatience with Iraq and asking for more tangible progress in both security and reconciliation of the country's divided religious, political and ethnic factions.

Over a dinner breaking the dawn-to-dusk fast during the holy month of Ramadan, Rice told Maliki and other Iraqi leaders that it was time for ordinary Iraqis to feel a difference, Zebari said. But he said she also confirmed the Bush administration's full support for the fragile young government.

Iraqi officials told Rice that they need time to make "slow but steady progress" on political reconciliation, for example, before they can act against factional militias, particularly the Shiite militias that might undercut Maliki's own support base, Zebari said. Maliki is a Shiite.

"Our role is not to resolve those issues for them. They are going to have to resolve those issues among themselves," Rice had earlier told reporters traveling with her. "Our role is to support all the parties, indeed to press all the parties to work toward that resolution quickly."

During the dinner, Iraq's parliamentary speaker, Mahmoud al-Mashhadani, suggested to Rice that U.S. troops reoccupy Baghdad, where the government's new security plan has made limited progress, according to both Iraqi and U.S. participants. Mashhadani, the leading Sunni Arab in government, until recently had denounced the continued U.S. military presence in Iraq.

Though U.S. officials rejected such a move, they took the exchange as a positive development because it reflected the changing Sunni attitude and a realization that the United States is not the enemy, a senior State Department official told reporters.

n a reflection of the deteriorating security situation here, Rice's plane was forced to circle Baghdad for nearly an hour before landing because of a mortar attack near the airport.

Violence continued to rage across Iraq, with at least 35 people killed or found dead in separate incidents across the country, police said.

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The U.S. military announced that two Marines assigned to Regimental Combat Team 7 were killed in combat Wednesday in Anbar province, the volatile Sunni insurgent stronghold. And a Kurdish member of parliament, Mohammed Ridah Sinkawi, was assassinated by militia members in northeast Baghdad on Thursday night, according to Mohammed Abu Bakr, another Kurdish legislator.

Despite growing concern, even among some U.S. officials, about whether Iraq's leadership has the ability to take the firm steps required, Rice said she believes Maliki can do the job. "I think he has the strength. He's a good and strong prime minister," she said.

Rice praised Maliki for his "excellent leadership."

She also praised Iraqis as a strong people capable of facing the current political, economic and military problems. "This is an important time and a challenge for the Iraqi people . . . and we know that they will overcome these challenges," Rice said.

Rice, who is playing the dominant role in Iraq policy during President Bush's second term, also talked to the Iraqi leadership about the national compact aimed at settling outstanding and divisive issues in Iraq's new constitution. The compact seeks to resolve such problems as dealing with militias, distributing Iraq's oil revenue among its three major sectarian and ethnic groups, and determining how much autonomy to grant areas of the country under a federal system.

Rice made clear Thursday that the United States opposes a proposal by Kurds to channel oil revenue from Kirkuk, a disputed northern city, into the country's three primarily Kurdish provinces. "We believe that oil has to be a resource for the Iraqi people as a whole and benefits the people as a whole," Rice said. "Our only view, which we have communicated, is that oil needs to be a unifying factor, not one that makes the country less unified."

"The core of getting a stable security environment really does rest on getting some of these political issues resolved," Rice said.

In her visit Friday to the northern Kurdish city of Irbil, Rice met with Massoud Barzani, president of the regional government, and urged him to cooperate with the national reconciliation efforts. Despite growing support for independence, Barzani said the three northern Kurdish provinces will remain part of Iraq.

"Kurds like any other nation have the right to self determination," he said. "This is a natural right. But a parliament in Kurdistan has adopted within the framework of a democratic Iraq, a federal system."

On the controversial issue of oil, Barzani said that the Kurds favor "fair distribution of all oil revenues all over Iraq."

Rice also talked about the efforts to stop attacks into Turkey by members of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) working out of northern Iraq, saying she was pleased that PKK offices had been closed "in all of Iraq."

"Iraqi territory can't be used for terrorism against any country," she said.

Rice is expected to hold meetings in London Friday night but her plane experienced mechanical problems and her departure was delayed.