Thread: Iraq/Dinar News. 09/05 to 01/14/07

Originally Posted by shotgunsusie

if you always look for negative youre going to find it.

I think practicality often gets mistaken for negativity. I'm optimistic about this investment but am not overtly excited as before at the sight of a news article or a post for the simple reason that I've seen a fair few which have not materialised. I guess I am being realistic by vouching for a reval in the next 3 to 6 months. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to realise dreams. It's good to be part of it.

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I just pulled this off a news site...notice all the references to banks, money, prosperity, wealth...


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Zakat instinct and benefits

The owner of the Hashemite

Meaning of Zakat :

Zakat is the source (Zaka) is grown and increased, as they say : Zaka planting any grown.

The source (Zaka) is also cleansed, as they say : Zaka done any Dahr.

Valzkah called zakat Belhaze those concerned it is the cleansing of the same vices of ethics and Mtamha of other sins and bad deeds, on top of sin parsimony, They are also cleansed of funds, which are innocent of the charges.



Benefits get zakat instinct :

God Almighty says : (Take money from the charity and sponsored by Ttehrham) Repentance / 103, that change required the development of livelihood and increased God Almighty good successor, and to be doubled this on the Quranic verse : (What you do from the zakat want God's face Those are Almadavon) Roman / 39.

She was friendly Virgin Fatima al-Zahra (for peace) to those concerned if he still refuses, in large when reviewing the philosophy of some beliefs, worship and morality as she (for peace) : ((Making God faith cleansed you from the trap and pray about the high esteem you for the elderly, the Zakat sponsorship for the same development and livelihood)).

And they are paid by the death of those who performed, it reported sincere (peace be upon him) said that one of his friends, whose name was tired : ((Fatt go on instinct and children. Give the slave whole does not leave one of them that you left them in spite Lansana Technologies)), I said : What List? he said : ((death)).

In an interview with Imam Musa Bin Jaafar of the fathers (they rest in peace) said : ((Rasul Allah (blessings be upon him, and god of peace) : Valley of the Zakat Al Fitr amplifying God, what a lack of Zakath)) (1).

And it is very fast and pray at the Prophet (blessings be upon him, and god of peace) of the fully prayer (2).

The more God mentioned in the Quran Majid alms and pray century in many states :

Kkolh Almighty Faia said Isa (peace be upon him) : (and pray to me and Zakat as long as I live) Mary / 32.

And Kkolh Almighty when Ismail sincere promise and praised : (The ordering people praying zakat and was at Rabbo satisfactory) Mary / 55 (3).





Provisions of the Zakat instinct

Who owes zakat instinct :

Zakat must be charged by instinct to each condition :

(1) puberty, it must be the boy.

(2) liberty, it must be the slave owned.

(3) mentality (ie the whole reason) and the non-fainting, it must be the crazy not to Almegmi when entering the night of the feast.

(4) rich, it must be the poor who did not have updated enacted by him and his dependents, Yes desirable for the poor never even go that runs Sana dependents on the charity then foreign After finishing the mechanism, unless this including a minor, Otherwise Valahout be limited in the administration, including the law, If the guardian of a minor puts him in coming to the other.

One issue is the existence of the tapes mentioned when entering the night of the Feast of any tribe that was even a moment and realized it Ajda sunset, It is not enough presence him if he continues, or after he would not, Ftjb on the example of his or still insane There must be on or after the hit still insane Yes desirable performance if it is disappearing from the day before Eid.

Issue 2 of the completed tapes Almzborh away from himself and from those who are dependent Muslim and infidel free and Abdul and small and large, , as well as all those who enter in Ailolth before Shawwal crescent so that the guest has been eating it, Down on the guest and then even the rich.

Question 3 if the child was born or married woman after sunset should not have to pay Zakat released.

Question 4, if the infidel safer after the appearance of Crescent did not respond, If sounder before, and so it appeared.

Question 5 absent for dependents, it must lead them only if they are in out-of-pocket and they are reliable in their performance.

Question 6 apparent that the utilization of the children on actual Abilolh not that alimony was prudent to take into account and one of the two. If the wife has a permanent Ailolh others to be the third Ftrtha not it, if it was not in Ailolh one must be with the tapes, While not not respond to one, as well as in the case owned.

Question 7 prohibit encroachment on the Hashemi-Hashemi, The orbit of dependency is not the children, The prudent to take into account both.

Question 8 should be the intention, like worship, may is graduation, and so therefore, or engage in other Delivery, then the agent must intention Girba.



In sex :

Issue 1 is not far that the officer what people come to know each other in each country or feeding him and not only by Kalber, barley and rice in the country such as Ghalib Iran and Iraq. The passport was strongest in yields four (wheat, barley, dates and raisins) never, The price may be paid value, The value in the event the time of graduation and the town.

Question 2 was paid in the encroachment be true, it often pays flawed, Nor is paying off, including mixed does not tolerate it, but given the mixed quality and value for the right-mixed.

Question 3 get better and then switch raisins, The likelihood of useful observation Almerjehat Foreign Affairs, also due to those who have power from the mainland Supreme pay him not Aladon or barley.



In the amount of :

He celebrated exposition of all livelihoods even milk, and this way for four supply, According to this age group in almost three kilowatt. given all the same.



At the time جوبها :

The entry on the night of Eid, and continue to pay time and the best time, too, but prudent to delay the day, even if he wanted to keep his Eid prayer reserve taken out before his prayers, the left and then had to isolate paid guardian, although not isolate Valahout not fall. but leads by Naoya Girba not subjected to the performance of the judiciary.

One issue may not be submitted to the month of Ramadan. but never prudent, Yes, good to give poor loan then calculated by the encroachment upon arrival time. Question 2 may be removed by instinct and identified in the capital of the ad hoc races or isolate the value of the price, The prudent, but only in isolated faceted value to the price.

Question 3 prudent not to transfer after the separation to another country with a receivable.

Question 4 if Eid in Aslambol Valley zakat instinct and arrived in Tehran before dusk on the night of May Fitr Zakat must instinct Secondly enough Sunset celebration? The apparent lack of duty and was Ahot, Yes, if Edha in Aslambol be performed in Tehran. If prayed Eid Aslambol apparently not جوبها or Astahbabha II (4).



Evidence جوبها :

In particular, referring to the Quran Majid Almighty God says : (succeeded by indents * The name of God quarterly) Supreme / 14 15.

The meaning of saying : (acknowledge) knocked out any Zakat Al Fitr, The meaning of saying : (quarterly) any prayer on the Feast Alazher.

My God, the little alms in many verses after the prayers either in the Koran and performed prayers and alms to the reference to the Zakat instinct and the Eid prayer, Hence scientists say is desirable that gets the zakat instinct before the Eid prayer, This is supported by Roy also expressed sincere Abi Abdullah (peace be upon him) that the meaning of the Quranic verse : (acknowledge) any ((knocked out zakat instinct)) is saying (quarterly) any ((Eid prayer)) (5).



In its bank :

One question that the stronger its bank and the Bank of ALMS was only prudent to pay to the poor believers and their children, but the poor are not even qualify, may give to vulnerable offenders in the absence of believers, .

Question 2 prudent that the poor do not pay less than the celebrated exposition or value and that the group met not Tsanm well, may give one Asoaea but to the amount of bare-enacted.

Question 3 desirable jurisdiction with uteri, neighbors and the people of migration in religion and jurisprudence, reason and others who have some Almerjehat, It leaves no reserve to pay Sharp wine and Almetjaher such large, There may be paid to be disbursed in disobedience (6).

* Allah says (and blessings be upon him, god of peace) : ((God, I suppose the rich Muslims in the money as much as can poor alike will strain the poor if Jawa or boys only, including manufactured rich, However, God judged severely accounts and often capable deeds)).

* According to some conversations sanctified : ((God Almighty says : Capital Mali and poor children. wealth, Mali, it is introduced to children. firearm and Negative)).

* The Imam Sadeq (PBUH), he said : ((to seal the benefit of observing the words and the work of God accept him observing)) and was told : what say good? he said :

((A certificate that is not god but God and good works get Fitra)) (7).


(1) spiritual healing / Abdul Latif al - Baghdadi / p. 249.

(2) document the Shiite / investigator Naraghi / c 5 / Al 330.

(3) spiritual healing / p. 257.

(4) means liberation / Mr. Imam Khomeini / c 1 / 345 350 Al, issues elected / Mr. Sistani / Al 229.

(5) Spiritual healing / p. 256.

(6) means liberation / Al 351.

(7) Spiritual healing / Al 254.

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Originally Posted by postcon

I think practicality often gets mistaken for negativity. I'm optimistic about this investment but am not overtly excited as before at the sight of a news article or a post for the simple reason that I've seen a fair few which have not materialised. I guess I am being realistic by vouching for a reval in the next 3 to 6 months. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to realise dreams. It's good to be part of it.

I understand what you're saying. I've heard a couple of people say first quarter of 2007. I do think it will happen this year personally.

As for articles, well the one today Susie found and the CBI one yesterday certainly got my heart racing!

We know it will happen. :0)

Originally Posted by postcon

I think practicality often gets mistaken for negativity. I'm optimistic about this investment but am not overtly excited as before at the sight of a news article or a post for the simple reason that I've seen a fair few which have not materialised. I guess I am being realistic by vouching for a reval in the next 3 to 6 months. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to realise dreams. It's good to be part of it.

could you explain to me what they are going to do about the foreign investment law that goes into effect automatically if they dont enact it within a certain amount of time?? its been approved, passed, negotiated, its ready for show. that enacts and the currency is still as low as it is and iraq will NOT have enough resources to sustain themselves at the current rate of inflation and growing higher. you can kiss what you now know of iraq goodbye. you think the money that is behind the backing of this effort is going to be in vain? not a chance.

re-read that article from the jr. mof, they know exactly what they need to do to kick start this economy and they are fixin to do it.

Originally Posted by CharmedPiper

Think positive...Today is a new day. Hopefully it will reval today...if not then I shoot for tomorrow.

I personally LOVE your attitude!

You have to look at this adventure and an investment. Go to work everyday, pay your bills and live your life. We all know it's going to reval - nobody knows exactly when, but our recent sign of the times is good news.

Basic finance 101 - don't count your chickens before they hatch.......meaning - don't go and blow your savings on a new house in the bahamas before the reval comes through.

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London (Reuters) - said Barham Salih, Deputy Prime Minister of Iraq on Monday that Iraq is important for the future of the world and the West could not abandon his position despite the growing concern about the continuing violence there tirelessly.

He Saleh, who is visiting London for talks with British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Britain's Prime Minister, expressed concern about the increasing pressure on the British and American Governments to change course in Iraq in light of the high number of deaths among coalition forces and Iraqis.

He stressed that the Iraqi forces will assume security functions gradually, but said that Iraq needs to "firm support" from the international community to fight against what he described as "adverse attack by the terrorists."

When asked about the opposition vowed to withdraw Australian troops from Iraq if it won the next election, he replied "I think certainly that the international community does not have the option of abandoning its position."

He added to reporters, "Iraq's fate is vital to the future of the Middle East and the world order."

The number of American forces killed in Iraq this month, at least 85 more months, making it the bloodiest for American forces this year, which increases the pressure on the administration of President George Bush before the elections in term of Congress in November in November which could lose by Bush, the Republican Party majority in both Houses of deputies and the Senate.

The American military officials in Iraq that the plan, which began two months ago to impose security in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad has failed in reducing violence.

In Britain, General Richard shells exploded army commander political storm this month when it demanded the withdrawal of British troops from Iraq as soon as possible because their presence over the security situation there worsened also in the world.

In the attack highlights the problems faced by Washington and London in the recruitment and training of Iraqi security forces killed 13 members of the police were killed and more than 25 others in an ambush on a convoy of buses near the town of Baquba, north-east of Baghdad on Sunday.

Left favor of talks with Blair, saying that Blair continued commitment to issues of democracy and freedom and stability in Iraq, grant a boost.

The spokesman denied that Blair is the Prime Minister had put pressure on Saleh to accelerate the process of handing over security responsibility in the south to Iraqi forces.

He said, "We do not work in the framework of a final period of compulsory. It depends on the circumstances and preparing Iraqi forces, efficiency and ability. "

And across the hoped that the government would be able to assume responsibility Iraqi security quickly.

He said : "By the end of the year will be about seven or eight of the 18 provinces in Iraq under the direct control of the Iraqi security forces."

Saleh said that Iraqi forces regained control of the militia from the town of Amarah without the need to help the coalition forces after the collapse of 25 people dead there last week in clashes between Shiite militia and the police.

The Iraqi government announced on Monday a curfew in the architecture because of the security situation there.

Saleh said in an interview with the British Broadcasting Corporation that he was concerned, of course, the debate in the United States and Europe "because of the pessimistic tone in this debate but I can say that the tone of defeatism in some constituencies."

"We must be realistic, not Anhzamiin. We have to understand that there is a very urgent need to deal with many of the problems in Iraq, but we must not give in to fear. "

President Bush announced on Saturday that he would be "very necessary changes" in the tactics to control the violence in Iraq but said that the goal is clear and unchanged.

The senior American diplomat said that the United States had shown "arrogance and stupidity" in Iraq, "it damaged seriously expression" in an interview broadcast on Sunday that American President said that it is flexible in adopting new tactics in Iraq unless the adoption of a strategy.

Alberto Fernandez, said the official in the State Department in an interview with Al-Jazeera, according to the correspondent for the Reuters listened to the interview broadcast by Arabic, "we tried to do our best (in Iraq) I believe that there is ample room for criticism of that there was no doubt there was arrogance and stupidity of the United States in Iraq . "

He said Fernandez is the Director of Public Diplomacy, Bureau of Near East American State Department that he has expressed during the interview.

Spearheaded James Baker and former Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Commission prepare recommendations on alternative strategies in Iraq, and some pointed out that the American administration has used the results of the cover for an exit strategy. But it is not expected to report until after the term of the Congress of the 7th of November in November.

Also at the Adrian

(Participated in the coverage Claudia Barsoner in Baghdad and David Clarke and Katherine Baldwin and Sophie Walker in London)

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Originally Posted by shotgunsusie

could you explain to me what they are going to do about the foreign investment law that goes into effect automatically if they dont enact it within a certain amount of time?? its been approved, passed, negotiated, its ready for show. that enacts and the currency is still as low as it is and iraq will NOT have enough resources to sustain themselves at the current rate of inflation and growing higher. you can kiss what you now know of iraq goodbye. you think the money that is behind the backing of this effort is going to be in vain? not a chance.

I don't think anyone is disputing the events that are happening in Iraq. FIL has been passed but it hasn't been enacted. The HCL is due to be passed as of last week. No news on it since. There is talk of signing the International Compact. This is great news and there is no denying that. It's just my take that it might take a tad longer to implement than when we expect them to happen. I am sure as a knowledgeable person yourself, you will agree that Iraq has its own slow and steady way of doing things.

Originally Posted by postcon

I don't think anyone is disputing the events that are happening in Iraq. FIL has been passed but it hasn't been enacted. The HCL is due to be passed as of last week. No news on it since. There is talk of signing the International Compact. This is great news and there is no denying that. It's just my take that it might take a tad longer to implement than when we expect them to happen. I am sure as a knowledgeable person yourself, you will agree that Iraq has its own slow and steady way of doing things.

they are exact in their dealings yes. but there is no way in gods green earth they can wait on the events which are beginning to have a snowball effect.

its already started to roll and pick up speed...

Originally Posted by shotgunsusie

they are exact in their dealings yes. but there is no way in gods green earth they can wait on the events which are beginning to have a snowball effect.

its already started to roll and pick up speed...

What amazes me is the unflinching positive attitude of people like you, Adster, Charmed, etc etc...It sure rubs off on others and prevents them from dropping down that hole of frustration and hopelessness. Thanks for such positive vibes.

The U.S. military announced the deaths of a Marine and seven soldiers, raising to 86 the number of American servicemembers killed in October -- the highest monthly toll this year. The pace of U.S. deaths could make October the deadliest month in two years.

Six soldiers were killed Sunday, three by small arms fire west of the capital and three by roadside bombs within Baghdad, the military said. On Saturday, a Marine was killed during combat in restive Anbar province and another soldier died in fighting in Salahuddin province.

"There will be no holiday in Iraq," said Abu Marwa, a 46-year-old Sunni Muslim father of three who owns a mobile phone shop in the capital. "Anyone who says otherwise is a liar."

In Sunday's bloodiest attack, gunmen in five sedans ambushed a convoy of buses carrying police recruits near the city of Baqouba 35 miles northeast of Baghdad, killing at least 15 and wounding 25 others, said provincial police chief Maj. Gen. Ghassan al-Bawi. The recruits were returning home after an induction ceremony at a police base south of Baqouba.


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A series of bombs also ripped through a Baghdad market and bakery packed with holiday shoppers, killing at least nine people and injuring dozens, police said. The attack came a day after a massive bicycle-bomb and mortar attack on an outdoor market killed 19 and wounded scores in Mahmoudiyah, just south of the capital.

The Iraqi Islamic Party issued a statement blaming Shiite militiamen for the attack in Mahmoudiyah, 20 miles south of Baghdad. The Sunni organization claimed Shiite militiamen had killed 1,000 residents in the town since the start of the year.

In the U.S., the Bush administration has been wrestling to find new tactics to contain the bloodshed ahead of the U.S. congressional elections on Nov. 7 as both Republican and Democratic lawmakers from both parties expressed wavering confidence in Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's ability to come to grips with the rising bloodshed.

Republican Senator Richard Lugar, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said Sunday that pressuring al-Maliki may not work because he does not have much clout.

"We keep saying, 'Go to your Shiites and get them straightened out, or the Sunnis, or divide the oil.' And al-Maliki is saying, 'There isn't any group here that wants to talk about those things,'" Lugar said.

U.S. President George W. Bush stood firm in his support for al-Maliki, saying he "has got what it takes to lead a unity government." But the president noted the urgency the new government faces to stop the killing.

"I'm patient. I'm not patient forever, and I'm not patient with dawdling," Bush said. "But I recognize the degree of difficulty of the task, and therefore, say to the American people, we won't cut and run."


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The outcome of a White House meeting Saturday among Bush and his top security and military officials could become clearer early next week when Zalmay Khalilzad, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, and Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, are scheduled to conduct an unusual joint news conference in Baghdad.

The Bush administration took issue with a report in The New York Times on Sunday that said Casey and Khalilzad were working on a plan that would outline milestones for disarming militias and meeting other political and economic goals.

The report said the blueprint, to be presented to al-Maliki by the end of this year, would not threaten Iraq with a withdrawal of U.S. troops. The White House said the article was not accurate, and the administration was constantly developing new tactics to help the Iraqi government sustain and defend itself and govern.

Also Sunday, a U.S. State Department official Alberto Fernandez apologized for saying U.S. policy in Iraq displayed "arrogance" and "stupidity" in an interview broadcast by Arab satellite channel Al-Jazeera.

"Upon reading the transcript of my appearance on Al-Jazeera, I realized that I seriously misspoke by using the phrase 'there has been arrogance and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq," said Fernandez, director of public diplomacy in State's Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs. "This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department," Fernandez added in a statement. "I apologize."

Fernandez spoke in fluent Arabic in the interview, which Al-Jazeera said was taped in Washington on Friday. His remarks were translated into English by The Associated Press.

In all Sunday, at least 44 Iraqis were killed or their bodies were founded dumped along roads or in the Tigris River. While the number was not high by the grim standards of the more than 3 1/2-year war, the timing and targets revealed a brutal disregard for the sanctity and meaning of the Eid al-Fitr holiday, which is to Muslims what Christmas is to Christians.

After fasting from dawn to dusk for a month to become closer to God, the holiday is a time when families and friends gather for sumptuous meals and children are given new clothes and toys. Muslims also traditionally visit the graves of loved ones.

"I don't think my family will go out and visit relatives this holiday," said Hasnah Kadhim, a 54-year-old Shiite homemaker and mother of four. "There are too many explosions."

Symbolic, perhaps, of Iraq's deepening sectarian split, only Sunnis are celebrating the start of the Eid holiday on Monday. The country's majority Shiites begin the three-day festival Tuesday or Wednesday, depending on which senior cleric they follow.

"Things are getting worse every day in Baghdad," said Abu Marwa, the Baghdad storekeeper. "So, it's logical that today will be better than tomorrow. That's why I have no plans for the holiday."

Sunday's killings raised to at least 950 the number of Iraqis who have died in war-related violence this month, an average of more than 40 a day. The toll is on course to make October the deadliest month for Iraqis since April 2005, when The Associated Press began tracking the deaths.

Until this month, the daily average had been about 27. The AP count includes civilians, government officials and police and security forces, and is considered a minimum based on AP reporting. The actual number is likely higher, as many killings go unreported.

The United Nations has said at least 100 Iraqis are now killed daily.


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The outcome of a White House meeting Saturday among Bush and his top security and military officials could become clearer early next week when Zalmay Khalilzad, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, and Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, are scheduled to conduct an unusual joint news conference in Baghdad.

The Bush administration took issue with a report in The New York Times on Sunday that said Casey and Khalilzad were working on a plan that would outline milestones for disarming militias and meeting other political and economic goals.