Thread: Iraq/Dinar News. 09/05 to 01/14/07

Originally Posted by Pippyman

Yeah let alone the fact that Bush Inc. lied about Iraq being connected with 911. Of course now Bush Inc. has back peddled and said that Iraq more than likely was not connected to 911. YA THINK! The US was the one that put Sadam in power there. Ever seen the video of Rumsfield shaking hands with Sadam back in 1981 after they made a weapons deal? People are getting impatient.... hell even the troops are talking about getting out on a more mass scale. This reval better happen soon or......



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Coventional wisdom said he said this, I guess we are products of IF its said enough over and over it becomeas truth. But actually this was never said by the president or the White house. There was a whole lot of other reasons we went in there to Iraq, but that was never one of them.
CLM

Originally Posted by D-Day

Along with Iraq asking that the U.S. extend there presence by one year tells me that November will come & go, then December & so on. And this is a travesty, given Iraq's enormous potential.

PS: I did not insult anyone but myself, thank-you very much.

Sorry if I took your original post the wrong way, but I thought you were giving Adster a hard time about saying November was our month.

Originally Posted by MOM2TWO

When the reval occurs is there someone on here that is appointed to let the uninformed (me) know? Or will I be here rolling pennies, while all of you will be at the bank?

Also, would the outcome of this be kind of like lottery winners? Would we have to change our phone numbers..etc?

and one more?...Would it be safe to go by myself to the bank? My dinars are currently in a safety deposit bank, but husband is a pilot so I most likely would be doing this alone with my two kids.

Thanks in advance.

I sent you a private message. Check it out.

Was September the month? nope but it sure was FUN!!!
Was October the month? still got 36 hours to go - but it was A HELL OF ALOT OF FUN FOR SURE!!!
Will it be November? don't know but you can bet your tail it will be MORE FUN THEN THE LAST TWO MONTHS!!!!

(Voice of Iraq) - 10-30-2006 | This issue was sent to a friend

Mr. Iraqi Interior Minister will meet with representatives of the Organization of the Islamic Action
- Baghdad (votes)


He met Mr. Jawad who is the Minister of the Interior today by the Iraqi delegation of the Organization of Islamic Action, the delegation representing Mr. Jawad Al-Attar, spokesman for the Organization and Mr. Abdul Jabbar al-Musawi, a leading figure in the ILO and Sheikh Mekdad Farhan al - Baghdadi, the Secretary-General of the Islamic Alvili combine has been talking about a situation for security and the latest developments in hot spots from Iraq.

It also talked about the need to involve Iraq's capabilities and competencies sincere spirit away from sectarian and factional for security and prosperous Iraq.

It is noteworthy that several previous meetings held with the rule of the Minister of the Interior during the last two weeks in this regard.

Originally Posted by MrsCK

Was September the month? nope but it sure was FUN!!!
Was October the month? still got 36 hours to go - but it was A HELL OF ALOT OF FUN FOR SURE!!!
Will it be November? don't know but you can bet your tail it will be MORE FUN THEN THE LAST TWO MONTHS!!!!

Thats the spirit

According to the schedule of speakers, Shabibi should be finished speaking...I sure hope he had something of substance to bring to the conference. I listed below some of the guests in attendance and from the list below these are the BIG BOYS...

Businessmen:·
Sheikh Saleh Abdallah Kamel, President of Dallah Al-Baraka Group, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (Islamic Banker) ·
Mr. Naguib Sawiris, Chairman, Orascom, Egypt · Mr. Najib El Saleh, Chairman, Kuwaiti Interests for Financial Investments, Kuwait ·
MS. Loubna Al Alian, CEO, Olayan Group, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia ·
Mr. Saeb Nahas, President and Chief Executive Officer, Nahas Enterprises Group, Syria

Bankers:·
H.E. Dr. George Al-Abed, Governo- Palestine Monetary Authority ·
Mr. Abdullah Salem Bahmdan, Chairman & Managing Director- The National Commercial Bank, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia ·
Mr. Abdel Karim Asaad Abou Nasr, Chief Executive Officer- The National Commercial Bank the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia ·
Mr. Hussein Abdel Aziz, Chairman - National Bank of Egypt ·
Mr. Adel Al-Labban, Managing Director & CEO- Ahli United Bank, Bahrain ·
Mr. Nehmat Sabbagh, Executive General Manager- Bank MED, Lebanon ·
Mr. Abdellatif El Kib, Chairman, National Investment Company, Libya

11:00 – 12:30 Creating Opportunities for Enhanced Trade, Investment and Economic stability between the Middle East and North Africa, Commonwealth and Europe

Chair - Dr Mohan Kaul, Director-General, Commonwealth Business Council
Speaker: Hon Ed Balls MP, Economic Secretary to UK Treasury
Speaker:Dr. Sinan Al-Shibibi, Governor, Central Bank of Iraq
Speaker: Shafik Gabr, Chairman & CEO, Artoc Group of Investment & Development
Speaker: R. Seetharaman, Vice CEO, Doha Bank-Qatar

Walls close in on Iraqi women - Africa & Middle East - International Herald Tribune



Walls close in on Iraqi women
Sabrina Tavernise The New York Times

Published: October 29, 2006


BAGHDAD The things the women missed were almost too small to notice at first.

Simple numbers and dates began to elude their memories. They were hugging their children less. Past pleasures, eating and listening to music, began to feel flat. They were shouting at their husbands like army commanders.

Small as they seemed, these scraps of life were the effects of the war as discussed by four Iraqi women on a cloudy Saturday afternoon in a women's center in Baghdad.

Their stories began with a familiar theme: the shrinking lives of middle-class families in the capital. Social clubs have emptied out. Weddings have been sparsely attended. But as the circle has become smaller, and as they focus intensely on just staying alive, they said, even the basics are being stripped away.

"All the elements of society have been dismantled," said Fawsia Abdul al-Attiya, a sociologist and a professor at Baghdad University. "You are afraid because you are a woman, a man, a Sunni, a Shiite, a Kurd.

"All these things start to change society."

In a room in the Amal Women's Network that was strewn with remnants of a morning meeting - a half-eaten piece of cake, an orange peel, some crumpled tissues - the women talked about the changes forced on their lives by that fear.

One of the women, a senior employee in an Iraqi ministry that is now run by religious Shiites, recalled recently walking through the gate of her office building with several colleagues, two wearing form-fitting dresses with bare heads and a third in a hijab, when security guards pulled the third woman aside.

"They told her to tell her friends to be more cautious," she said, leaning out of her high-backed chair. She asked that her name not be used because it would be recognized. She has received two threats on her life.

Her own office was a measure of just how far relations between Iraqis have unraveled. She has worked with her colleagues for 21 years, but in the past year, strange new alliances and rivalries have emerged. In business trips abroad, lists of those permitted to go were compiled along sectarian lines. Shiites chose Shiites. Sunnis chose Sunnis.

Basma al-Khateeb, a 47-year-old mother of three, shook her head sadly at the familiar tale. "We never dreamed it would be like this," she said.

Khateeb, who runs a program for youths at the center, said she missed the very simple pleasures that gave life its texture.

"Walking. Riding a bicycle down the street. We gave up so many things we used to do," she said. "Now we call them accessories."

Private lives have been dented and squeezed into uncomfortable positions. Houda, a 40-year-old layout designer for a magazine in Baghdad who would not give her last name, said the violence had cast her and her husband in the roles of emergency room doctors, shouting orders and performing urgent tasks. Little time remains for intimacy. The last time she remembers feeling happy together was a year ago.

"Something has changed," she said. "There is a kind of dryness between us now."

One conversation that comes up daily is about leaving Iraq, but there are no answers.

It is a daily struggle not to shout at her two teenage girls, one that she usually loses. She has stopped hugging and kissing them, a strange byproduct of extreme stress, she said. Recently, her 15-year-old called to say she missed her, though they had not been apart.

"I feel surrounded by threats," she said. "When I go to work. When they go to school."

As the violence tears the fabric of society, breaking communities and long-established social networks, even peoples' thinking is muted. Plans for the future are too painful, too breakable, many Baghdad residents say, and so their thoughts stay fixed on the immediate.

"The events are too big to comprehend, and the mind stops thinking," Attiya said. The result, she said, is a distracted population with vastly diminished ambitions.

With jobs too difficult or too dangerous to find in many cases, young people in particular have put aside their dreams. In such an environment, the allure of populist leaders and militias offering protection, a sense of purpose and belonging has become compelling.

For the women - secular, middle class, employed and part of an increasingly slender slice of Iraq's population - the effects have been on a more personal scale.

Many reported a new difficulty with memory, particularly of numbers and dates.

For Houda, it happened in front of a television set. She sat down to turn on her favorite Egyptian television show a few days ago, and for several minutes she could not remember the channel.

"It was a blankness," she said. "My brain is loaded. It is not active like before."

The feeling is particularly intense for those who have lost a close relative, especially a child. Haifa Hassan, an English teacher whose 12-year-old son was kidnapped while he walked home from school this summer and then brutally killed, has a face like a mask. She finds it hard to smile, and when she does, it is more a grimace.

She has trouble sleeping at night. She tries to nap, but when her husband enters the bedroom, her eyes are often open, staring ahead.

"My son dies every day," she said, recalling his small body and neck with rope marks. She left Iraq with her husband and remaining son this month.

Life has become so hard that many Iraqis find it too painful to partake of the world outside. Houda said she can no longer stomach movies, bright things that show varnished, perfect lives. She has not watched a movie all the way through in more than a year.

Life was also hard under Saddam Hussein, the women pointed out. Plans were equally impossible to build. But the basic fabric of life, visiting family, attending weddings and funerals, was for the most part intact. Now Iraqis are letting go even of those parts.

The ministry employee sat at the table looking agitated. She attended the funeral for the mother of a good friend this month. The family was Christian, large and respected in the community, and before the war, such a funeral would draw hundreds. Instead, 10 people came to the church service, and only one, the dead woman's son-in-law, risked following the casket out to the cemetery. Even her daughter stayed home.

Those who escape to Jordan or Syria or the Kurdish enclave in northern Iraq describe stumbling around for days, extremely disoriented.

One of the women recalled that when she saw her children in a mall in Jordan, she was overcome by a feeling of indescribable relief. The lights were bright. Her children were safe, and drinking fruit shakes. But they were also melancholy, tinged with the memory of what had been lost.

Hana Edwar, the director of the women's center, said she brought a group of young people to a scenic lakeside resort in Iraqi Kurdistan in September. When a group gathered there for prayer, one young man joked that he did not need to pray because he was already in heaven.

"Really, you feel how much we miss these things," Edwar said. "How much we miss them."

A year ago, there was still so much hope, she said, "but now the light is so weak."

A stanza by her favorite poet, Muhammad al-Jawahiri, runs constantly in her mind.

"Oh open-handed Tigris!" it says. "Our ambitions have fallen so low that even the simplest among them is not promised."

BAGHDAD The things the women missed were almost too small to notice at first.

Simple numbers and dates began to elude their memories. They were hugging their children less. Past pleasures, eating and listening to music, began to feel flat. They were shouting at their husbands like army commanders.

Small as they seemed, these scraps of life were the effects of the war as discussed by four Iraqi women on a cloudy Saturday afternoon in a women's center in Baghdad.

Their stories began with a familiar theme: the shrinking lives of middle-class families in the capital. Social clubs have emptied out. Weddings have been sparsely attended. But as the circle has become smaller, and as they focus intensely on just staying alive, they said, even the basics are being stripped away.

"All the elements of society have been dismantled," said Fawsia Abdul al-Attiya, a sociologist and a professor at Baghdad University. "You are afraid because you are a woman, a man, a Sunni, a Shiite, a Kurd.

"All these things start to change society."

In a room in the Amal Women's Network that was strewn with remnants of a morning meeting - a half-eaten piece of cake, an orange peel, some crumpled tissues - the women talked about the changes forced on their lives by that fear.

One of the women, a senior employee in an Iraqi ministry that is now run by religious Shiites, recalled recently walking through the gate of her office building with several colleagues, two wearing form-fitting dresses with bare heads and a third in a hijab, when security guards pulled the third woman aside.

"They told her to tell her friends to be more cautious," she said, leaning out of her high-backed chair. She asked that her name not be used because it would be recognized. She has received two threats on her life.

Her own office was a measure of just how far relations between Iraqis have unraveled. She has worked with her colleagues for 21 years, but in the past year, strange new alliances and rivalries have emerged. In business trips abroad, lists of those permitted to go were compiled along sectarian lines. Shiites chose Shiites. Sunnis chose Sunnis.

Basma al-Khateeb, a 47-year-old mother of three, shook her head sadly at the familiar tale. "We never dreamed it would be like this," she said.

Khateeb, who runs a program for youths at the center, said she missed the very simple pleasures that gave life its texture.

"Walking. Riding a bicycle down the street. We gave up so many things we used to do," she said. "Now we call them accessories."

Private lives have been dented and squeezed into uncomfortable positions. Houda, a 40-year-old layout designer for a magazine in Baghdad who would not give her last name, said the violence had cast her and her husband in the roles of emergency room doctors, shouting orders and performing urgent tasks. Little time remains for intimacy. The last time she remembers feeling happy together was a year ago.

"Something has changed," she said. "There is a kind of dryness between us now."

One conversation that comes up daily is about leaving Iraq, but there are no answers.

It is a daily struggle not to shout at her two teenage girls, one that she usually loses. She has stopped hugging and kissing them, a strange byproduct of extreme stress, she said. Recently, her 15-year-old called to say she missed her, though they had not been apart.

"I feel surrounded by threats," she said. "When I go to work. When they go to school."

As the violence tears the fabric of society, breaking communities and long-established social networks, even peoples' thinking is muted. Plans for the future are too painful, too breakable, many Baghdad residents say, and so their thoughts stay fixed on the immediate.

"The events are too big to comprehend, and the mind stops thinking," Attiya said. The result, she said, is a distracted population with vastly diminished ambitions.

With jobs too difficult or too dangerous to find in many cases, young people in particular have put aside their dreams. In such an environment, the allure of populist leaders and militias offering protection, a sense of purpose and belonging has become compelling.

For the women - secular, middle class, employed and part of an increasingly slender slice of Iraq's population - the effects have been on a more personal scale.

Many reported a new difficulty with memory, particularly of numbers and dates.

For Houda, it happened in front of a television set. She sat down to turn on her favorite Egyptian television show a few days ago, and for several minutes she could not remember the channel.

"It was a blankness," she said. "My brain is loaded. It is not active like before."

The feeling is particularly intense for those who have lost a close relative, especially a child. Haifa Hassan, an English teacher whose 12-year-old son was kidnapped while he walked home from school this summer and then brutally killed, has a face like a mask. She finds it hard to smile, and when she does, it is more a grimace.

She has trouble sleeping at night. She tries to nap, but when her husband enters the bedroom, her eyes are often open, staring ahead.

"My son dies every day," she said, recalling his small body and neck with rope marks. She left Iraq with her husband and remaining son this month.

Life has become so hard that many Iraqis find it too painful to partake of the world outside. Houda said she can no longer stomach movies, bright things that show varnished, perfect lives. She has not watched a movie all the way through in more than a year.

Life was also hard under Saddam Hussein, the women pointed out. Plans were equally impossible to build. But the basic fabric of life, visiting family, attending weddings and funerals, was for the most part intact. Now Iraqis are letting go even of those parts.

The ministry employee sat at the table looking agitated. She attended the funeral for the mother of a good friend this month. The family was Christian, large and respected in the community, and before the war, such a funeral would draw hundreds. Instead, 10 people came to the church service, and only one, the dead woman's son-in-law, risked following the casket out to the cemetery. Even her daughter stayed home.

Those who escape to Jordan or Syria or the Kurdish enclave in northern Iraq describe stumbling around for days, extremely disoriented.

One of the women recalled that when she saw her children in a mall in Jordan, she was overcome by a feeling of indescribable relief. The lights were bright. Her children were safe, and drinking fruit shakes. But they were also melancholy, tinged with the memory of what had been lost.

Hana Edwar, the director of the women's center, said she brought a group of young people to a scenic lakeside resort in Iraqi Kurdistan in September. When a group gathered there for prayer, one young man joked that he did not need to pray because he was already in heaven.

"Really, you feel how much we miss these things," Edwar said. "How much we miss them."

A year ago, there was still so much hope, she said, "but now the light is so weak."

A stanza by her favorite poet, Muhammad al-Jawahiri, runs constantly in her mind.

"Oh open-handed Tigris!" it says. "Our ambitions have fallen so low that even the simplest among them is not promised."

Today 30 Oct 2006

ECO-KUWAIT-MEETINGS-INITIATIVE
Preparatory committee meeting of Int'l Contract with Iraq initiative opens

Tuesday KUWAIT, Oct 30 (KUNA) -- Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister, Sheikh Dr Mohammad Sabah Al-Salem Al-Sabah will inaugurate Tuesday the preparatory committee meetings for the International Contract with Iraq Initiative hosted in Kuwait A statement by the Kuwait Fund for Arab Economic Development (KFAED) said a senior-level delegation headed by Iraqi deputy Prime Minister Burham Saleh would join the meetings with the American delegation headed by Robert M. Kimmitt, Deputy Secretary of the Department of the Treasury.

The Fund, which will be hosting the meetings, added the gathering would prepare for another preparatory meeting scheduled in Baghdad at the end of this year. That meeting will finalize a draft to be agreed upon in an official meeting later next year.

The meetings will begin with an official ceremony with a speech by Kuwait presented by Sheikh Mohammad Al-Sabah followed by a speech by the United Nations representative.

During the first session, the participants will discuss the framework of the document and the shared commitments between Iraq and the international community. Saleh will then present the Iraqi government's vision of these commitments and the government's goals for the contract's term.

The second session will be discussing supporting and financing developments in Iraq. The third and final sessions will discuss methods of putting the Contract into effect with each of the Iraqi government, the World Bank, and the United Nations sharing their plans.

The final session will include two press conferences; one with Saleh and the UN representative, the second with Kimmitt.

The Contract's draft includes the Iraqi government's goals and vision for a five-year term spanning from 2006-2011.

The statement pointed out that discussion of the draft comes in line with efforts exerted to preparing the document in its final formula and endorsing it as a framework for action.

It said the document included the political, security, social and economic measures aimed at achieving Iraq's national objectives.

KFAED added the document also included perceptions of needed mechanisms and the role played by the Iraqi government and the world community's commitment toward this contract.

It said the document also included objectives and ambitions sought by the Iraqi government during the contract period topped by achievement of Iraqi people's ambitions in security, national unity, democracy and establishment of a federal state.

It said the Iraqi government would grant, through the document, the private sector a leading role in Iraq's economic activities and would work on reducing poverty rate and assisting the least poor citizens and facilitating services to all nationals.

Meanwhile, meetings of the preparatory group would witness participation of 14 countries including Canada, France, Germany, Japan, Italy, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Spain, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United States, Finland (current Chairman of the European Union), hosting country Kuwait and Iraq. (end) go.

http://www.kuna.net.kw/Home/Story.a...=en&DSNO=916927

justpraying : this is connected to the dinar. how ?
every post DARK DARK DARK.