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    Quote Originally Posted by njd2004 View Post
    There have been a lot of posts recently suggesting that the 10,000 IQD per citizen handout has been delayed until after an imminent revaluation.

    And of course there are wide opinions on what the revaluation would be, but just lately 1.48 seems quite prominent, and would actually make a lot of sense.

    But can we really see them revaluing to 1.48 and then giving each Iraqi citizen the equivalent of $14,800?

    Somehow I don't think so, and if indeed the delay of the handout is as a result of an imminent revaluation, you would have to then think that the revaluation level would be quite low.

    I would personally feel more confident of a high reval if it was in no way linked to this promised handout.

    Your thoughts please.......

    Neil
    Hi to all.

    I got a mail yesterday from Free Dinar (Ompus) It seems the handout are going to start next week. I'll include the link, and the article.

    Here are what Ompus wrote: Finally we get to hear about HOW and WHEN they are going to start giving out the Dinar to their citizens. As it states in the article, “Early next week”. جريدة الصباح - السوداني: توزيع منحة العيد مطلع الاسبوع المقبل..

    The first political : Sudanese : grant distribution holiday early next week.

    واجراءات لمنع توريد لعب الاطفال النارية And measures to prevent the supply of children's toys firearms
    بغداد ـ مهدي كريم الطائي ـ علي السامرائيBaghdad Mahdi Karim Tai, the Samurai
    اعلن الدكتور عبد الفلاح حسن السوداني وزير التجارة ان منحة العيد ستوزع بين المواطنين مطلع الاسبوع المقبل...Dr. Hassan Abdel farmer Sudanese Minister of Trade, the grant will be distributed among citizens of Eid early next week ... فيما اكد ان وزارته بصدد اتخاذ اجراءات مشددة لمنع توريد لعب الاطفال الخاصة بالاسلحة البلاستيكية الى العراق لما لها من اثار سلبية وخطرة .With confirmed that the ministry was taking strict measures to prevent the supply of children's toys of plastic arms to Iraq in view of its negative effects and dangerous. الى ذلك اودعت دائرة المحاسبة في وزارة المالية مبالغ منحة العيد في حساب وزارة التجارة للتصرف بهاIt deposited the accounting department in the Ministry of Finance grant amounts holidays at the expense of the Ministry of Commerce of the People

    وتوزيعها بين المواطنين.واوضح السوداني خلال لقائه بالصحفيين امس الاربعاء في مقر الوزارة بحضور”الصباح “: ان الوزارة حددت الاسبوع المقبل للمباشرة بتوزيع منحة العيد التي اقرها مجلس الوزراء مؤخراً والبالغة 10 الاف دينار لكل مواطن مسجل ضمن البطاقة التموينية..The distribution among citizens. The Sudanese during his meeting with reporters yesterday, Wednesday, at the headquarters of the Ministry and the presence of "morning" : The ministry has set next week to start distributing grant Eid endorsed by the Cabinet recently and 10 thousand dinars of every citizen recorded within the ration card. مشيرا الى ان التوزيع يتم عبر مصارف الرافدين والرشيد والمصارف الاهلية وضمن الرقعة الجغرافية التي تمثل اقرب نقطة لسكن العوائل المشمولة بهذه المنحة.وحدد الوزير كذلك مدة ثلاثة اشهر لاستلام المنحة من قبل العوائل وفي خلاف ذلك يسقط حق المواطن بالمطالبة بها بعد هذه المدة وسترد المبالغ المتبقية الى خزينة الدولة.ودعا المواطنين الى مراجعة اقرب مركز تمويني تابع للوزارة في حالة مواجهتهم صعوبة في الاستدلال على موقع المصرف الذي يقوم بعملية صرف المنحة لهم...He pointed out that the distribution is carried out through banks, Rafidain and Rasheed banks and the civil and within the geographic area, which represents the closest point to housing families covered by this grant. The Minister further period of three months of receipt of the grant by the families and otherwise abolishes the right of the citizen to claim after this period will be the remaining funds to the state treasury. He called on citizens to review the status of the earliest delivery belongs to the ministry in the event of difficulty in identifying the location of the bank, which is the process of payment of the grant them ... مؤكداً ان البنك المركزي العراقي وفر الاموال اللازمة لجميع المصارف بالتنسيق مع وزارتي التجارة والمالية.واكد الدكتور السوداني ان الوزارة شكلت لجاناً متخصصة لوضع ضوابط تمنع توريد لعب الاطفال الخاصة بالاسلحة البلاستيكية واتخاذ اجراءات مشددة وعقوبات رادعة ضد التجار الذين يقومون بادخال هذا النوع من لعب الاطفال الى العراق...He emphasized that the Central Bank of Iraq provided the necessary funds to all banks in coordination with the ministries of trade and finance. Dr. Sudanese that the ministry formed specialized controls to prevent the supply of children's toys of plastic arms and taking strong action and penalties against traffickers who bring this type of children's toys to Iraq ... لما لها من اثار سلبية كبيرة على تربية ونشأة الاطفال جراء تجسيدها لمظاهر العنف في المجتمع علاوة على تعرض الاطفال للاضرار الخطرة على اجسادهم بسبب استخدام هذه اللعب.من جانب اخر اكدت وزارة المالية ان دائرة المحاسبة اودعت مبالغ منحة العيد التي خصصها مجلس الوزراء للمواطنين في حساب وزارة التجار ة للتصرف بها وتوزيعها بينهم وفق ماتراه مناسباًواشارت الوزارة في ايضاح تسلمت”الصباح “ نسخة منه ان المالية تتبع اجراءات اصولية بهذا الشأن حيث ان المعول به بالتعامل مع وزارة التجارة يتم بصورة مباشرة وليس عن طريق وكلاء الحصة التموينية.وبينت ان وزير المالية باقر جبر الزبيدي يبدي حرصه الكبير ع لى تسهيل اجراءات الوزارة وخصوصا ما يتعلق بالمواطنين.Because of the significant adverse impact on the upbringing and development of children by the embodiment of the manifestations of violence in society, in addition to children's exposure to hazardous damage to their bodies because of the use of these games. On the other hand, the Ministry of Finance said that the accounting department deposited grant amounts allocated by the Feast of the cabinet at the expense of the citizens of the Ministry of traders e rights and distribution, including its opinions Menaspawachart according to the ministry to clarify the "morning" received a copy of the financial procedures followed in this regard, where fundamentalism that by relying deal with the Ministry of Trade to be directly and not through agents ration. It showed that the Finance Minister Baqer Jabr Al-Zubaydi show his big p I facilitate procedures of the ministry, especially regarding the citizens.
    وكانت وزارة التجارة قد ذكرت في تصريحات صحفية ان تأخر صرف منحة العيد ياتي بسبب رفض وزارة المالية لالية التوزيع التي اعدتها وزارة التجارة.The Ministry of Trade said in a press statement that the delayed payment of a grant feast comes because of the refusal of the Finance Ministry for distribution mechanism prepared by the Ministry of Commerce.

    I hope this helps.
    R/V by end of Jan -07??

    Take care.
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    Eleven Iraqi banks, with the direct support from Iraqi Central Bank and the American Agency for Development, announced the establishment of the Iraqi company for loans that provides financial liquidity for those wishing to establish small projects....

    11 Iraqi banks agree to launch a specialized company to finance special projects | Iraq Updates

    It aims at enhancing the obtainment of small, medium-sized and minor enterprises in Iraq on loans from private banks, in addition to supporting the use of modern practices of credit and international banking standards in granting loans to small and medium-sized enterprises.

    It should also be noted that these projects constitute a significant proportion of economic activity for many countries in the world, whether they were developing or developed.

    The guarantee amounts differ according to the type of risks associated with them; they could reach 75% of the value of the original loan, which ranges from $ 5000 to $ 25000.

    Ok, the loans are in the amount of 5 - 25,000.

    The article didn't state when the program will begin BUT, would they RV the Dinar after giving out loans to help people start a new small business??

    If not this weekend a RV could be a long time away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatstuff View Post
    You read that wrong, I think. If you look at other currencies, you'll see that the figure in brackets is how many of the currency in question it takes to buy 1 USD. So that is .31 Dinars = 1 US Dollar.

    Also, that is the old dinar. There are two entries for Iraq: the old dinar, and the new one. What I find interesting is that the new one shows m.float which is also what China shows. This means floating in line with a specified bundle of currencies, I think.

    Iraq (-2003) dinar ID 1,000 fils IQD 368 US-$ (0.3109)
    Iraq (2004-) new dinar ID 1,000 fils IQD m.float

    WHOOOOooooooOOOOOT!
    Sorry folks, and thank you for the explanation.
    R/V by end of Jan -07??

    Take care.
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    Morning folks, beautiful day here in the UK, facking cold, but nice.

    What have I missed?

    Just wanted us to remember this quote..........

    A source at the CBI 'The dinar will rise significantly in 2006'. Guess that gives us another 8 weeks!
    Zubaidi:Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states.


    Shabibi:The bank wants as a means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar a valuable and powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adster View Post
    Morning folks, beautiful day here in the UK, facking cold, but nice.

    What have I missed?

    Just wanted us to remember this quote..........

    A source at the CBI 'The dinar will rise significantly in 2006'. Guess that gives us another 8 weeks!
    This is the most significant Adster.

    http://www.rolclub.com/130039-post359.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneShotOneKill View Post
    This is the most significant Adster.

    http://www.rolclub.com/130039-post359.html

    OSOK

    Sounds great and thanks RR. We await with excitement! Tis as good a time as any and certainly makes sense. Can they do it then? Course, they don't have to have an enacted fil or oil law yet.

    We need to add the EU Trade signing on the list of events for the 20/11.

    On a side note it shows me how close we are that we have scammers coming out trying to con us out of our money. Wankers. We've worked hard for this, do not fall for any of the BS. If you're in doubt post it here and we'll check the info out but there is no point in giving your money to anyone except the bank to exchange once we can. And even then I wouldn't advise letting the dinars out of your sight, I certainly won't!!!!


    As stated already, no reprint, no lop, and no true information will be given out by the IMF, World Bank etc over the telephone.

    Like everyone let's hope tomorrow is the day, IF it's not we know it will one day soon.

    Adster.
    Zubaidi:Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states.


    Shabibi:The bank wants as a means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar a valuable and powerful.

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    in the email i got from ompus they said they might just end up having to rebuy.
    are you guys just having fun saying anytime now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aeara View Post
    in the email i got from ompus they said they might just end up having to rebuy.
    are you guys just having fun saying anytime now?
    No joke, this can hit any day now IMO.
    Zubaidi:Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states.


    Shabibi:The bank wants as a means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar a valuable and powerful.

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    Now this is the kind of news that will make your "Heart" thump. Remember folks, everything is a speculation. But, we do have the best facts and members here that have worked their butt off for us all to discover what events can and could happen. Please be cautious with all decissions and "Good Luck" to us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neno View Post
    Now this is the kind of news that will make your "Heart" thump. Remember folks, everything is a speculation. But, we do have the best facts and members here that have worked their butt off for us all to discover what events can and could happen. Please be cautious with all decissions and "Good Luck" to us all.
    When I get a chance I'll put together a post with all the facts and news with excerts from the CBI as above, the MoF and the IMF stating the need to raise the dinar etc. IF we don't have our reval tomorrow there may be some disappointment on here so it'll be a good one to keep the chins up.
    Zubaidi:Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states.


    Shabibi:The bank wants as a means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar a valuable and powerful.

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