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    Default Iraqi Logic!

    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuy75903 View Post
    Remember in my last post where I said Logic dictates my thoughts? Well, hopefully i won't confuse anyone with this response:

    Logically, yes - This makes sense. But I alter my Logic when dealing with Iraq, because, well, they tend to defy all logic. So if I put on my Iraqi Logic hat, then I tend to think this won't happen. The FIL will come, and be enacted, and no revalue. *Something* will hold up the works, somehow.

    I hope to God I am wrong. I still believe we are very close, but if there's a way to fack it up, I'm sure the Iraqi Government will find it, and exploit it. Again, I can't express how badly I want to be wrong on this, and I pray every day that I am. I have enjoyed the news regarding the refusal to sell Dinar to folks currently in Iraq, and see that as a sign that this Watched Pot is about to Boil. I just don't see them doing this before the FIL becomes automatically enacted. At best, I see this happening on the same day, but my "logigator" is telling me this is the absolute best-case scenario.

    Time will tell. But it can't happen soon enough for me. I'm ready to quit my job, because, well, it is starting to get to me, and I want to run my own company for a change.
    Not to mention the fact that the Iraqis get 10 out of 10 for 'postponing'. They can postpone anything they like including the 10,000k dinar hand out (again)!

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    Nice to find a 'Dinar' site here at ROL forums.

    Took me a while to make sure the talk really
    is about the topic though.

    Looking forward to returning and finding out
    the latest with you all from time to time.

    (You sound like an interesting monitor 'neno').

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    MrsCK or Susie, have either of you found any info on the past upward revaluations and what countries?

    Didn't want you to miss this question if this thread gets bumped to archive.

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    Post Middle East Is A Hot Market!!!!!!!!!!!

    Mideast is now largest project finance market

    Khaleej Times - 07/11/2006

    The Middle East has become the largest project finance market in the world, according to HSBC. Of the global total of $98.5 billion in project finance debt raised in the first half of 2006, $33 billion, or one dollar in every three, was raised for Middle Eastern projects.


    "The rapid rise in demand for project finance is symptomatic of the rapid growth in regional economies, the rising profile of the Middle East in the global investment community, and the recognition of international debt providers of the fundamental strengths of the region in terms of risk," explained Darren Davis, HSBC's Head of Project Finance for the Middle East and North Africa. "Expansion in infrastructure investment has been rapid with all sectors seeing growth, not only the traditional energy-based projects. In addition, both governments and regional corporates are increasingly turning to project finance as a means of financing their infrastructure needs in sectors such as transport and non-power utilities."

    Project Finance is a mechanism of raising finance to fund the development of major industrial and infrastructure assets. Project finance debt is provided by lenders on the basis that repayment of the debt will come from the cash flows generated by the asset being financed. The structure of project finance allows developers to leverage their investment returns without taking on significant long term risk .

    The growth in the market has been driven by the needs of the rising population and the increased liquidity in the region as a result of the sustained strength in oil prices.

    Approximately $7 billion was raised in project finance debt in 2001 compared to $33 billion in the first half of 2006, "a figure which we expect to rise to at least $45 billion by the end of this year," says Davis.

    With the world investment community increasingly seeing the Middle East as an attractive investment opportunity, international banks have substantially increased their presence in the region both on the ground and in terms of the amount of debt they are committing to regional borrowers.

    But even with these new entrants, there could be a shortage of debt capital to support the level of funding required by the enormous projects planned for the region. The answer, believes HSBC, will come from the region accessing the international debt capital markets. "This is a trend that has already begun, and will accelerate," says Davis. "This will mean that those institutions with the global distribution capabilities, as well as strong balance sheets, will be able to reap the rewards."

    HSBC, which has the largest project finance presence in the Middle East, remains the leader in advising regional governments and corporates on the raising of project finance debt. Some recent transactions on which HSBC acted as advisor include: In Saudi Arabia, Al-Waha Petrochemical Company's US$1 billion project which included the first fully stand-alone Islamic financing facility for a project; the largest ever privately sponsored petrochemicals plant in the region — the $2.5 billion Saudi Ethylene & Polyethylene Company's project in Saudi Arabia and the Shoaiba Independent Water and Power Project in Saudi Arabia — the first privately developed water and power facility in Saudi Arabia.

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    I just want all to remember that Children of our members are learning the History Making Investment as well. I have gotten plenty of PM'S that have ask me to please see this post for the Language. My own Children are watching and Learning and Invested as well. So a good Debate is Good and Cool. I know Offshore-Wealth.com likes them.

    Baghdad Time: 04:08am, 11/08/2006 ~ market is closed | $1 USD = 1469.63 IQD ^
    My daughter watches this with me and she turns 13 tomorrow. WOW what a great date to r/v. She thinks it would be cool to have this hit then. Birthday present already in my hands. But I did have to explain the wanker thing, and just explained that the British are a bit different than us in the US, even though we speak the same language, kinda.

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    Default Great News For Iraq! Bad News For Iran!

    Fresh from a serious setback in Iran, where it lost its controlling stake in the huge Azadegan oilfield, Japan has launched diplomatic efforts in earnest to secure petroleum in neighboring Iraq.

    Recently, Tokyo invited Iraqi Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani to Japan and they issued a joint communique pledging Japanese assistance for improvements to the oil and gas infrastructure in the war-torn country. Japan specifically pledged to provide loans of about 20 billion yen (US$170 million) to Iraq as part of the $3.5 billion aid package already committed.

    Iraq is believed to have the world's third-largest oil reserves, after Saudi Arabia and Iran. Despite its huge potential, however, the country is relatively unexplored because of years of sanctions and war. Only a quarter of its 80 discovered fields are pumping oil at present. By extending loans and increasing involvement in the reconstruction process, Tokyo is hoping it can acquire a good share of these massive oil reserves.

    Japan imports almost all of its oil, and nearly 90% of that comes from the Middle East. In a significant setback for its energy-security policy, Japan agreed last month to give up its controlling interest in Iran's massive Azadegan oilfield - one of the world's largest, with an estimated 26 billion barrels of reserves - amid international tensions over Tehran's nuclear program.

    After sustained discussions on the topic, Japan's Inpex Corp and Iran's National Iranian Oil Co reached a basic agreement reducing the Japanese developer's stake in the southwestern oilfield to 10%, down from 75%. Inpex is also to renounce its status as the operator. This development has thrown the Japanese government's aim - of ensuring energy security through Japanese-own companies' increased foreign output - into jeopardy.

    At present, Iraqi oil accounts for only a minuscule percentage of the East Asian country's overall imports. To enlarge on this, Japan has its eyes on at least three Iraqi fields, including the giant East Baghdad oilfield, which has an estimated 18 billion barrels of reserves. The two other oilfields are Gharraf and Tuba, both in southern Iraq.

    The Gharraf and Tuba fields have proven oil reserves of 1.1 billion and 1.5 billion barrels, respectively. After returning to Baghdad, the Iraqi oil minister said Japanese firms have also shown an interest in the Nassiriya oilfield, in southern Iraq, which has proven oil reserves of between 2 billion and 2.6 billion barrels.

    Meanwhile, two Tokyo-backed oil developers - Arabian Oil Co and the Japan Petroleum Exploration Co (JAPEX) - have recently renewed, for another year, their respective agreements with the Iraqi Oil Ministry to provide technological assistance, hoping to take a share of the oil wealth in future.

    Iraqi Oil Minister Shahristani's Asia-Pacific tour also took him to Australia and China. China and Japan are, respectively, the world's second- and third-largest importers of energy resources. In a report issued early this year, the government-affiliated Japan External Trade Organization (JETRO) warned of an ever-intensifying global competition for oil and gas. The report said China's oil consumption will nearly double by 2020 from the current level.

    The setback in Iran came at an awkward time for Japan, which launched its New National Energy Strategy in late May. The new strategy calls for various specific goals to ensure the nation's energy security in the long term. In addition to importing almost all of its oil, Japan is the world's largest importer of liquefied natural gas (LNG). The new strategy reflects strong concerns about energy security amid high oil prices and intensifying global rush for oil, gas and other resources, led by China and India.

    The New National Energy Strategy calls for, among other things, increasing the ratio of "Hinomaru oil" - oil developed and imported by domestic companies - from 15% to 40% of total imports by 2030. But the draconian cut in Inpex Corp's stake in the Azadegan project has made this ambitious goal even more difficult to achieve.

    Japan's invitation of the Iraqi oil minister came only two weeks after Inpex Corp was pushed out of the driver's seat in the Azadegan project in Iran, underscoring how passionately Tokyo is wooing Baghdad.

    Although Japan withdrew its troops from Iraq in the summer, it has taken a high profile in Iraq's reconstruction. Tokyo hopes its generous aid pledges - $5 billion in total, with $1.5 billion in grants and the remaining $3.5 billion in soft loans - will be rewarded with access to Iraq's extensive oil reserves.

    Japan's aid is the largest by any single nation, except the United States. The $1.5 billion portion has already been disbursed, and the $3.5 billion soft loan is to be fully allocated by the end of 2007, with the focus likely to be on energy-sector developments.

    Shahristani met with Japanese Minister of Economy, Trade and Industry Akira Amari and other officials in Tokyo. The Japanese side specified that about 20 billion yen ($170 million) in loans would be spent on upgrading an oil refinery and working on a fertilizer plant, near the southern port city of Basra. The repayment period for these soft loans is 40 years and they carry an annual interest rate of 0.75%. Japan and Iraq also agreed to hold energy talks at least once a year.

    Japanese investment
    "The oil industry is important for the reconstruction of Iraq," the Iraqi minister told Amari. "But investment is not sufficient," he continued. "We would like Japanese companies as well as Japanese official loans to come to Iraq. [We are] not short of funds [now]" thanks to recent high oil prices, but the country hopes to start "major construction [of oil facilities] next year, and we will need more funds", Shahristani said.

    The two countries issued a joint statement calling for Japanese companies to work in Iraq's oil- and natural-gas-development projects. "Both sides welcomed that Japanese corporations have the intention to keep performing activities which aim at obtaining a secure energy supply, and contributing to the development of the oil and gas fields in Iraq in a positive way," the statement said.

    The statement also confirmed that "it is essential to explore Iraq's oil and natural-gas reserves ... as well as to restore and expand Iraq's existing facilities and to develop related industry in the sector, in order to reconstruct Iraq".

    Promisingly for the Japanese government, Iraq's oil production rose to 2.5 million barrels per day (mbpd) in June, and Shahristani noted at the time that this was to increase to 2.7mbpd by the end of the year. Before the war, output was about 3mbpd, peaking at a record of 3.5mbpd.

    In Australia en route to Tokyo, Shahristani expressed his confidence again that international investment would help Iraq more than double its oil output to 6mbpd by 2012-14. In Tokyo, he also said Iraq hopes to export more than 4mbpd by 2010. "We are determined to go beyond that to 6 million [bpd] by cooperating with foreign companies," he said.

    He said the oil sector, which accounts for about 70% of Iraq's gross domestic product (GDP) and 90% of its national income, would receive a boost after a new hydrocarbon law expected by the end of the year that will provide further guarantees for foreign investors.

    Asia is seen as a major target market for Iraq once production and exports are increased. "We are not exporting enough at the time being, but that is only transitional," he said. "Our increased production will be for the Asian markets."

    Security concerns
    It is clear that Japan is interested in increasing its profile in Iraq's energy sector, but the main obstacle to ramping up investment remains the endemic violence that persists in the Middle Eastern country.

    Shahristani acknowledged that if it were not for the increasingly frequent attacks by saboteurs on northern pipelines, Iraq could be shipping about 400,000bpd more in crude-oil exports.

    "The pipeline that takes the oil through Turkey has been attacked more viciously in recent months," he said. "We are talking with the minister of defense to provide better protection." But he said he hopes to see an improvement in pipeline security soon.

    China in Iraq
    Japanese officials and analysts also worry that countries such as China might have an edge over Japan in gaining access to Iraq's energy resources, since it has more experience operating in inhospitable environments such as Sudan and Angola.

    In fact, the new government in Baghdad has courted Beijing because Chinese producers have been willing to invest in countries that are considered dangerous or politically isolated. Beijing had previously been thought to be out of the running for major contracts in postwar Iraq, with the best deals going to the United States and its allies. But the upsurge in violence there has made the country less attractive to Western producers.

    In Beijing, Shahristani and Chinese officials agreed to revive a 1997 deal worth $1.2 billion signed by China and Saddam Hussein's government to develop the al-Ahdab oilfield. Al-Ahdab, with an estimated development cost of $700 million, was awarded to China National Petroleum Corp and Chinese state arms manufacturer Norinco by Saddam. The deal was frozen by international sanctions and then Saddam's overthrow.

    Competition for gas
    Concerns about tougher competition for natural-gas supplies in the medium and long terms are also growing in Japan as many countries, led by China, are stepping up LNG purchases.

    China began to import liquefied natural gas in May. The first LNG shipment into China came from Australia. China's LNG imports have also come at a time when Japan and China - the two Asian giants - are locked in the simmering territorial dispute over gas resources in the East China Sea. Japan is now the world's largest LNG importer, accounting for more than 40% of total global imports. But China is expected to catch up with and possibly overtake Japan as the world's largest LNG importer in 2020.

    Malaysian national oil company Petroliam Nasional Bhd (Petronas) said at the end of last month that it had signed a deal to supply LNG to Shanghai for 25 years, starting in 2009. In other recent developments, China National Offshore Oil Corp (CNOOC) signed frameworks with Suez SA, Total SA and Shell Eastern Trading Ltd to buy spot shipments of LNG to make up for any supply shortfalls.

    ExxonMobil Corp also reached a preliminary agreement recently to sell natural gas from the Sakhalin-1 oil and gas project in Russia's Far East to China - instead of to Japan as originally planned. That deal faces hurdles, however, including the economics of building a very long pipeline and getting the cooperation of OAO Gazprom, Russia's natural-gas-distribution monopoly.

    Other participants in the Sakhalin-1 project include Tokyo-based Sakhalin Oil and Gas Development Co (SODECO), jointly owned by the Japanese government and private sector, and Russia's state-owned oil firm Rosneft. SODECO has a 30% interest in the project, while the Russian firm has a 20% stake. The project operator ExxonMobil holds the right to decide which parties receive natural-gas exports.

    Japan purchased 58 million tons of LNG from abroad in 2005, of which 25% was from Indonesia. Most of Indonesia's long-term LNG supply contracts with East Asian countries, such as Japan, China, Taiwan and South Korea, start expiring from 2010. Indonesia is poised to cut in half its Japan-bound exports of gas when long-term contracts expire in 2010 in order to boost the availability of fuel for domestic industries amid decreasing natural-gas, as well as oil, production at home.

    Despite being a member of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, Indonesia became a net importer of crude oil in 2004. Qatar is expected to replace Indonesia as the world's largest LNG exporter in 2010.

    The report by JETRO, released early this year, predicted that the percentage of oil as an energy source will level off in China at about 26% by 2020 while that of gas will sharply grow to nearly 9% because of a sharp increase in imports from Indonesia and Russia.

    As China - and to a lesser extent India - demonstrates a willingness to pay higher prices to ensure gas supplies, producers are likely to push ahead. Still, most industry observers expect the Asian LNG market to remain tight in coming years, keeping prices high.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Inscrutable View Post
    MrsCK or Susie, have either of you found any info on the past upward revaluations and what countries?

    Didn't want you to miss this question if this thread gets bumped to archive.
    I already posted it - do a research for my posts or go back about 10 pages. Sorry don't know the number of the post.

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    I've been looking for some sites with past revaluations and although I find none I did find these sites interesting.

    http://www.pro-researcher.co.uk/ency...exchange_rates

    Talk:Iraqi dinar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    World Currencies and Abbreviations

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    OK sorry, you edited that post. Thanks.

    Not really anything about revaluations. Appreciation, currency exchange and reprints.

    Thanks again for the effort.


    Quote Originally Posted by MrsCK View Post
    Let me see if I can find my notes on it - IMF website has it all. BRB with info with kuwait, germany and japan OK

    I WILL BE EDITING THIS POST OF THE ABOVE SO NENO DON'T HAVE TO CLEAN UP AFTER ME:

    The yen lost most of its value during and after World War II; after a period of instability, the yen was pegged at 1 US dollar = ¥360 from April 25, 1949, to until 1971 when the Bretton Woods system collapsed and the value of the yen began to float. After the Plaza Accord of 1985, the yen appreciated against the dollar. APRIL 25, 1949 WAS A MONDAY - Plaza Accord was September 22, 1985 WAS ON A SUNDAY

    Germany Mark: German Mark was the official currency of West and, from 1990 onwards, unified Germany. It was introduced as the official currency of East Germany in July 1990, replacing the East German Mark, in preparation for unification on October 3. Ostmark bank accounts were exchanged at a rate of 1:1 OCTOBER 3, 1990 WAS A WEDNESDAY

    Kuwait:
    The Kuwaiti dinar (ISO 4217 code KWD) is Kuwait's official currency. The dinar is sub-divided into 1000 fils. It was established in 1960 and replaced the Gulf rupee in 1961. Sorry can't find the date.
    Last edited by Inscrutable; 08-11-2006 at 03:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inscrutable View Post
    I've been looking for some sites with past revaluations and although I find none I did find these sites interesting.

    http://www.pro-researcher.co.uk/ency...exchange_rates

    Talk:Iraqi dinar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    World Currencies and Abbreviations
    when you go to wikipedia look up Kuwait - when it comes up their is a box on the right hand side - scroll to currency - then like on the dinar - the history for kuwait dinar will some up. The days off the top of my head was Sunday, Wednesday and Thursday.

    gave the dates for germany and japan. Ran out of steam for kuwait. sorry.
    Good night all
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