Thread: Iraq/Dinar News. 09/05 to 01/14/07

Originally Posted by worf

Originally Posted by Inscrutable
Bush just said "To the people o Iraq, we know you want a better life and now is the time to ReceiVe it" Is this the code words? LOL



I not only want the r/v badly I need it!!! But don't you think you are grasping at straws here?

worf

It was a joke!

Of course this is not serious!!

But we are close and that is based on facts.

People the new House and Senate will look at cutting funding for the war as a way to end it. Iraq had better get things going or else. I heard on a talk show that Harley -Davidson is looking to open up a factory in Iraq.

Originally Posted by MrsCK

Rummy quit was the big news

If that was the big news then when did Bush say "To the people o Iraq, we know you want a better life and now is the time to receive it"?

Originally Posted by Cyberkhan

You don't by chance have that link do you???

I never saw that article. Great news though!!!

http://www.cipe.org/regional/mena/ir...nopsis_ep6.pdf

Here is a link about H.D.
Semper Gratus! » Blog Archive » Harley Davidson - Iraq

A few pages back someone mentioned that the 10k handout has been postponed till next week.

Does anyone have a link to back this up...or to simply inform us as to what is going on over there?????

Originally Posted by mrvgs

People the new House and Senate will look at cutting funding for the war as a way to end it. Iraq had better get things going or else. I heard on a talk show that Harley -Davidson is looking to open up a factory in Iraq.

Thats a big step up from riding camels.

Originally Posted by Ratz

I am personnaly more concerned with globalists like bush hater George Soros, who would like to see Bush fail even if it means destroying Iraq's economy buy buying up it's currency. Currently, Soros could buy up all of Iraq's 10Trillion of M2 with only 6.8 billion USD. He could then put a demand call on the money and the CBI/ICI (and other entities backing the currency) would have to support that call. This in affect give Soros a monopoly on the entire Iraq economy. Doesn't anyone remember what he did to the bank of England almost bankrupting the country!!!

When Iraq becomes a member of the WTO they will have to abide by international law and would forced to succumb to Soros's demand call. That alone is the reason that the currency needs to revalue.

Also, consider this 5 years ago, a Mercedes was considerably cheaper than it is today. Even taking into consideration annual price increases in Germany inflation, etc. there has been a "significant" price increase in the cost. Why, because, the Euro has gained against the dollar by 30%. Germany uses the euro so they are going to price things in Euro period. If the US exchange rate happens to be worse, US citizens will simply have to pay more for the car.

This is why the EU does not necessarily want a huge disparity in exchange rate, why, because as european goods become more expensive, there becomes a point where these goods become too expensive for the US citizen, thus sales slow down and ends up negatively affecting with their economy.

Good point,

No doubt it works both ways. Referencing exchange agains mark at the time, I was purchasing Mercedes Benz cars and importing them to U.S. at a 33% lessor price back in 80's, and I use to travel once a month to Germany and eat at 5 star restaurants for $10.00, those were the days.

At least Mercedes is building many of the cars in U.S. now, so this will minimize some of the exchange rate swing, but no doubt, the dollar is in for a bumpy ride over the next couple years in my opinion. I'll be purchasing my new Gullwing with dinar, so I am not worried one bit on exchange rates.

Good luck to all, Mike

This might be what the october surprise was suppose to be about. However it was delayed to November.

November Surprise
by Tom Engelhardt
Tom Dispatch
Are we really surprised? The Saddam Hussein verdict, scheduled for Oct. 16 and then suddenly delayed last month (supposedly because the Iraqi special tribunal needed more time) to Nov. 5, the last news cycle before the U.S. midterm election, has now come in, and the former dictator (and monster) is guilty. The Bush administration, struggling desperately for face time in the media these last weeks, has one day of Iraqi front-page headlines and lead TV news stories of its dreams in an election season in which the Iraq War has more or less shoved every other issue off center stage.

The possibility that this particularly convenient verdict postponement might have been the result of Bush administration planning and pressure to create a November surprise for the midterm elections was first raised at the Nation magazine's The Notion blog on Oct. 17. Since then the mainstream American media has failed dismally to explore the subject.

Just to review for a second: Saddam's trial, as the Washington Post's Ellen Knickmeyer reported last January, was a key priority of the Bush administration, which spent hundreds of millions of dollars exhuming evidence for it, refurbished the courtroom for it, trained judges for it, provided security for it, and even drafted many of the statutes under which Saddam was to be tried. The trial has been significantly stage-managed and run on a daily basis by the U.S. Regime Crimes Liaison Office, working out of the U.S. embassy in Baghdad.

As the Media Matters Web site has ably reported, the Bush administration (think: Karl Rove) has a penchant for and a "history of timing national security-related actions to the political calendar," thereby causing presidential approval ratings to providentially bump up at just the right moments; and White House Press Spokesman Tony Snow, when asked last week by CNBC's Larry Kudlow whether the verdict would be a "November surprise," even welcomed the question, as well as the prospective verdict, this way:

"[Y]ou are absolutely right, it will be a factor. But you know what, it may fit into a larger narrative about an Iraqi government that has been doing what the president has said all along which is developing the capacity to sustain itself, defend itself and govern itself and to help us out on the war on terror."

You would think that all this might have inspired the odd editor at the odd major (or even minor) newspaper to assign a story, however speculative, on the possibility of a Bush-manipulated Saddam-execution special, or that a major columnist somewhere might have commented, or that the odd reporter might have called someone other than the usual suspects. But no such luck, it seems.

Instead, where reporters did anything on the subject, they took the charge of possibly tampering with the verdict date for political advantage on the "home front" directly to administration figures – last week, ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalilzad ("The United States had nothing to do with the selection of the date and we don't know whether the judges have come to a judgment or not."); this Sunday, Tony Snow ("absolutely crazy"; "'The idea is preposterous,' he said in an interview on CNN's Late Edition, that 'somehow we've been scheming and plotting with the Iraqis.'") – who naturally denied that it was faintly conceivable. In fact, in such articles, all you could read were denials of the charge. There was never a sense that the charge came from anywhere.

In the meantime, the idea was mocked on CNN; while NBC's Tim Russert fluffed it off, based on administration denials, evidently without (like every other reporter around) even bothering to explore the all too plausible possibility, or calling anyone on Earth who might have another opinion. How about, for instance, the articulate and knowledgeable human rights lawyer Scott Horton, whose private e-newsletter, "No Comment," first tipped off The Notion to the providential postponement? (Leading Democrats, of course, just ducked as always.) For our "balanced" press, this was little short of dereliction of duty.

When the tampering possibility slipped into stories at all, it was as a formulaic paragraph or two deep inside pieces deep inside the paper. Typical was this from the Post's usually able reporter Knickmeyer (who knows too much about the nature of Saddam's trial to have covered this issue so poorly):

"In Baghdad, U.S. officials close to the trial deny that the announcement of the verdict, set for two days before U.S. congressional elections, was timed to give a boost to the Republican Party. 'If we had that kind of power to set dates like that, the trial would have been concluded in about five months,' said one of the officials, who all spoke on condition they not be identified further. 'The fact of the matter is: No way.'"

So here we are, just a news cycle before election day, and both George W. Bush ("a milestone in the Iraqi people's efforts to replace the rule of a tyrant with the rule of law") and Ambassador Khalilzad ("an important milestone in the building of a free society") are once again able to use one of those classic administration Iraq words – "milestone" (think Saddam's capture, the purple finger election) – that otherwise had disappeared from our news. This won't last more than a day or two, of course, before the Iraqi bad news begins to pour in again; but right now those few crucial hours are manna from heaven for an administration whose vice president has already declared that it will be "full speed ahead" in Iraq after the midterm elections, no matter what.
I have little doubt that, weeks, months, or years from now, we'll learn just who carried off this particular administration political ploy – and just how. In the meantime, this is but another small, pathetic tale of how the mainstream media has failed its readers and viewers, blindly and blandly spreading yet another administration fiction about the increasingly fictional land of, and "government" of, Iraq.

Look far and wide for a blunt account of this fiasco in the normal outlets. You'll do so in vain. If you're curious, take a look instead at what Riverbend, the "girl blogger of Baghdad," has to say today about the verdict, about what it's like – in an Iraq "at its very worst since the invasion" – to experience firsthand "the frustration of feeling like the whole country and every single Iraqi inside and outside of Iraq is at the mercy of American politics." So are we, unfortunately; and, on this election eve, you can offer some part of the thanks for that to the major paper or TV network of your choice.

Originally Posted by Dinar Duchess

Can you tell me how much u think the dong will revalue at. Is it worth investing in. Sorry Neno, i may be out of order for posting this in the wrong thread....

Interesting,

On a side note, I think it will be a long slow climb, so I purchased a couple grand worth, but I don't see any real increase overnight, sort of like I expected with dinar, five year plan, so you never know, but it can only go one way, UP.

Good luck to all, Mike