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12-11-2006, 10:06 PM #23001
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WE WILL BE RICHER THEN OUR WILDEST DREAMS
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It would be interesting to know how much is lip service to the voters, and what they really plan... any thoughts??
Levin Says U.S. Should Begin Iraq Withdrawal Within Six Months
By James Tyson
Nov. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Senator Carl Levin said Democrats will exercise their newly won control of Congress by pushing through a resolution calling for the U.S. to begin withdrawing some of its 140,000 troops from Iraq within six months.
The U.S. needs to ``change the course in Iraq by telling the Iraqis that our presence there is not open-ended,'' Levin, a Michigan Democrat who is in line to become chairman of the Armed Services Committee, said on the ABC's ``This Week'' program. ``We need to begin a phased redeployment from Iraq in four to six months.''
Such a resolution won't bind President George W. Bush to start pulling out U.S. forces, and Levin ruled out cutting off funds for the war. White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten, while expressing a willingness to ``talk about anything,'' rejected setting a deadline for withdrawal.
``I don't think we will be receptive to the notion that there is a fixed timetable to pull out because that could be disastrous for the Iraqi people,'' Bolten said in a separate interview on the ABC program.
Democrats in the Nov. 7 election regained majorities in the House and Senate in part because of voter dissatisfaction with the war and the administration's efforts to promote stability and self-government in Iraq.
Levin and Senator Joseph Biden of Delaware, who is set to become chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said the election results showed the public rejects the Bush administration's strategy in Iraq and wants changes.
Stage Set for Change
While the president sets foreign policy, pressure from the public and some of Bush's fellow Republicans will set the stage for a new course in Iraq, Biden, a contender for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2008, said.
Setting up a timeline for the departure of U.S. troops will put pressure on the Iraqi government to find a political solution to the sectarian violence that has ravaged the country, Biden and Levin said.
``There is no military solution in Iraq,'' Levin said. ``There is only a political solution.''
Democrats aren't unified in their approach on Iraq. Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said on the ``Fox News Sunday'' program that setting an ``arbitrary deadline'' for beginning a withdrawal probably won't work.
``The president still is in charge of military and foreign policy,'' Dean said. ``We need to work with the president to get ourselves out of Iraq.''
Still, he said, the U.S. must increase pressure on Iraq's leaders to take responsibility for their own security.
The Iraqis ``are playing political games over there to see who can get into power on the backs of our troops,'' Dean said, and it shouldn't be America's responsibility ``to prop up an incompetent regime.''
Troop Levels
Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona, who also is exploring a presidential bid in 2008, reiterated his call for putting more troops in Iraq.
``There are a lot of things we can do to salvage this but they all require the presence of additional troops,'' McCain said on NBC's ``Meet the Press.'' ``A withdrawal, or a date for withdrawal, will lead to chaos in the region and most military experts think the same thing.''
Bolten said the president remains committed to stabilizing Iraq and strengthening the country's democratically elected government's ability to battle insurgents and militias.
``Now, that doesn't mean we're not going to be adjusting tactics,'' he said. ``We clearly need a fresh approach.''
``We're going to be talking even more closely than we have been in the past with the leadership there about the right way forward'' with Democrats in control of Congress, Bolten said.
Bush is scheduled to meet tomorrow with members of the bipartisan Iraq Study Group, which is being led by former Secretary of State James Baker. Baker was a top adviser to Bush's father, former President George H.W. Bush, and his panel is set to make its recommendations for U.S. policy in Iraq before the end of the year.
Consensus
The commission can help ``build some bipartisan and public consensus about the way forward,'' Bolten said.
Bush signaled a change in direction the day after the congressional elections by announcing the resignation of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and his replacement by former Central Intelligence Agency Director Robert M. Gates, who was a member of the Iraq Study Group. He is stepping down from the panel.
The fighting in Iraq includes conflict between Sunni and Shiite Muslims as well as attacks on U.S. troops and Iraqi government forces.
The U.S. military today said three soldiers were killed in an attack yesterday in the al-Anbar Province in western Iraq, one of the areas where sectarian and insurgent violence has surged. In Baghdad, two suicide bombers killed at least 35 people and wounded 60 others today at a base for the Iraqi National Police, Agence France-Presse reported. In southern Iraq, four U.K. servicemen were killed in an attack while they were patrolling the Shatt al-Arab waterway near Basra, AFP said.
More than 2,280 U.S. military personnel had been killed in action since the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, according to the Department of Defense. Iraqi Health Minister Ali al-Shemari said in Vienna Nov. 9 that 150,000 Iraqis have been killed by insurgents since the start of the war.
To contact the reporter on this story: James Tyson in Washington at [email protected]
Last Updated: November 12, 2006 13:35 EST
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12-11-2006, 10:18 PM #23004
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I forgot this one, you have to sign in it's free, i don't remember how all to do it and you have to add USD/IQD, i don't remember how sgs told me a long time ago. Maybe she can help
http://www.advfn.com/p.php?pid=mon&cb=1163319815WE WILL BE RICHER THEN OUR WILDEST DREAMS
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12-11-2006, 10:21 PM #23005
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Day Dreamer,
I tried it and I can't get it to work. I'll see if SGS can help Thanks
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12-11-2006, 10:27 PM #23006
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Forex
Does anyone have a link to the Forex? Thanks in advance!
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12-11-2006, 10:35 PM #23007
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concerning the earlier post
The Dems are not that stupid. Even though they ranted through the political process, they know better than the average American what is truly at stake here. With the largest embassy US on earth being built in Iraq I feel all this talk is again public consumption. I believe the US will have a permanent presence although they may call it UN peace force it will largely be American forces keeping guard much like Korea.
The Middle East is a potential powder keg and we all know how long it takes to get equipment to the region. Since the area is too vital to the global economy the US and the entire world for that matter cannot afford to allow some ill-minded imams and leaders in that area with their grandiose scheme of a Muslim Caliphate where they check the man to make sure they're not wearing underwear and a woman has an existence lower than a common animal to gain strength.
Just imagine what political ramifications the Dems would face in 2008 if they bailed in Iraq? Woman’s rights groups would skewer them. Nope I think this is all fluff.
So I think our investment is just as healthy as it was before the election.
READ some of todays posts and Howard Dean said SUNDAY that he
would like to withdraw troops soon.
The democrats are beholden to the ULTRA-LEFT; the ones that think if
we sing kumba and hold hands everything will be okay. The Islamic
homicidal manics want to kill us.
If dinar doesn't r/v very soon its dead . Long term total collapse-- its just
like pouring concrete and then removing the supports to soon.
the womens vote is just like the black vote it will go democrat. they will
always find an excuse to vote democrat.
FACE IT FOLKS THE DEMOCRATS LIED ( about not withdrawing )Last edited by bigred52; 12-11-2006 at 10:38 PM.
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12-11-2006, 10:45 PM #23008
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Dang it, this is the kind of thing that's going to get Neno spun up. Let's take the politcal talk to the appropriate thread!!! We've all got opinions--but this aint the place for political talk!!! Don't make me summon the Dinar Gals
for the person looking for a forex site--here is the Australian Forex--their workweek starts at Sunday 5pmEST
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12-11-2006, 10:47 PM #23009
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I just can't take Howard seriously ever........All the noise is going to settle down...sure they are loud now but they keep approving the funding don't they? any way we will be ok in fact the concern you have may even speed up the process
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12-11-2006, 10:48 PM #23010
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did you notice i said i was responding TO AN EARLIER POST about she thinks
the investment is ok. IF THE AMERICAN TROOPS ARE REMOVED OR EVEN
THE PROSPECT OF WITHDRAWING THIS INVESTMENT WILL BE SHORT LIVED
AT THE BEST. the funding was with the republicans in charge the democrats
will stop it.Last edited by bigred52; 12-11-2006 at 10:51 PM. Reason: ADDED
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