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    Quote Originally Posted by H2O_Lover View Post
    The other thing is the CBI has stated they are concerned about dollarization in iraq and have said so in the same breath they have mentioned increasing the value of the dinar.

    This has been nagging at me, they are concerned about dollarization but are selling record levels of USD to banks in exchange for dinar. If anything this will increase dollarization in Iraq unless the dinar is valued at 1:1 or higher. Please let me know if I'm seeing this incorrectly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inscrutable View Post
    Forget that, who wants 1.50 we better wait a bit longer so they can get that price up.

    who wants a 1.50 ??? My guess is anyone who is holding what i am and one with any brains at all. It is one thing to invest thousands of dollars its another to risk millions. like i said stupid money at that point for me and i would get out. I dont wear greed well as i bought thinking .05 is what i need !
    Oh the drama....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lndmn_01 View Post

    This has been nagging at me, they are concerned about dollarization but are selling record levels of USD to banks in exchange for dinar. If anything this will increase dollarization in Iraq unless the dinar is valued at 1:1 or higher. Please let me know if I'm seeing this incorrectly
    You are 100% correct, introducing dollars at the rate of this past weeks auction is dollarization in my opinion. And the part of that press statement that confuses me is to make it a cash based economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lndmn_01 View Post

    This has been nagging at me, they are concerned about dollarization but are selling record levels of USD to banks in exchange for dinar. If anything this will increase dollarization in Iraq unless the dinar is valued at 1:1 or higher. Please let me know if I'm seeing this incorrectly
    Correct, at least 1 to 1 if not higher.
    Zubaidi:Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states.


    Shabibi:The bank wants as a means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar a valuable and powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lndmn_01 View Post

    This has been nagging at me, they are concerned about dollarization but are selling record levels of USD to banks in exchange for dinar. If anything this will increase dollarization in Iraq unless the dinar is valued at 1:1 or higher. Please let me know if I'm seeing this incorrectly
    Bothers me a bit too ........maybe they are funding big projects and maybe they are funding local people. Banks make money on buying and selling what ever currency they handle. I think the banks maybe a bit angry if today they hold a vault full of dollars and in the morning the are worth 1/2 there value in dinars !! Like i said this is a part of this investment that i really do not understand. BTW the CBI's job is to make money too and they make their money as i understand it from the banks they sell to and in bonds. I am confussed at best with this
    Oh the drama....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiko View Post
    I agree. Although I don't think in this case they are idots. I go for number 2.

    They must do this today or ASAP to prevent further speculation. That will cost them a lot of money.
    I doubt if there will be any serious speculation on the dinar regardless of the CBI actions at this point due to the totally out of control sectarian violence that shows no sign of diminishing. The Iraqi parliament can legislate until the cows come home but no savvy bigtime investor (Trump, Gates, Institutions etc...) is going to put his money on the dinar until some modicum of peace is established between the Sunni and the Shiite. Of course we small time investors will speculate!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inscrutable View Post
    You are 100% correct, introducing dollars at the rate of this past weeks auction is dollarization in my opinion. And the part of that press statement that confuses me is to make it a cash based economy.

    What do you mean dollarization? is this something we should have concerns about? Could there be any other reason why they would be buying back dinars other than an RV.

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    Hi all,

    I have a question regarding this :

    Bahrain Bhd/usd 2.656 (100 USD = 37.60 BHD)
    Kuwait kwd/usd 3.475 (100 USD = 28.914 KWD)
    Oman omr/usd 2.605 (100 USD = 38.00 OMR)
    Qatar qar/usd .27 (100 USD = 364 QAR)
    S. Arabia sar/usd .27 (100 USD = 375 SAR)
    UAE aed/usd .27 (100 USD = 367.25 AED)

    Are all the currencies of these countries internationally traded ?

    Thank you !

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    Quote Originally Posted by cigarman View Post
    I need your help on something. I'm trying to find out for sure but I remember reading that Iraq had 9 trillion dinar printed with 4.5 trillion in circulation ( I think), so far this week they have taken 1 trillion off the streets, so how much is needed to be taken off in order to reval high? Mr. Knowles, you comments are welcome.
    I know i can't give you the amount answer but i can give some other numbers to compare.

    Earlier i posted the exchange rates of the GCC neighboring countries.
    Bahrain Bhd/usd 2.656
    Kuwait kwd/usd 3.475
    Oman omr/usd 2.605
    Qatar qar/usd .27
    S. Arabia sar/usd .27
    UAE aed/usd .27
    Iraq iqd/usd .0006815

    here's some more.
    Currency and gold reserves:
    Bahrain $2.432 billion (2005 est.)
    Kuwait $8.972 billion (2005 est.)
    Oman $4.358 billion (2005 est.)
    Qatar $4.552 billion (2005 est.)
    S. Arabia $26.76 billion (2005 est.)
    UAE $23.53 billion (2005 est.)
    Iraq $9.161 billion (2005 est.)

    And their proven oil reserves:
    Bahrain 124 million bbl (2005 est.)
    Kuwait 96.5 billion bbl (2005 est.)
    Oman 6.1 billion bbl (2005 est.)
    Qatar 16 billion bbl (2005 est.)
    S. Arabia 262.7 billion bbl (2005 est.)
    UAE 97.8 billion bbl (2005 est.)
    Iraq 112.5 billion bbl (2005 est.)

    FYI, these estimates are from the CIA fact book.

    I'm still trying to find M0, M1, M2 (money supply) data but maybe someone knows better where to find this??..??
    A teacher was giving a lesson on the circulation of the blood. Trying to make the matter clearer, she said, "Now, class, if I stood on my head, the blood, as you know, would run into it, and I would turn red in the face... then why is it that while I am standing upright in the ordinary position the blood doesn't run into my feet?"
    A little fellow shouted, "Cause your feet ain't empty."

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    Quote Originally Posted by webinvestor View Post
    I know i can't give you the amount answer but i can give some other numbers to compare.

    Earlier i posted the exchange rates of the GCC neighboring countries.
    Bahrain Bhd/usd 2.656
    Kuwait kwd/usd 3.475
    Oman omr/usd 2.605
    Qatar qar/usd .27
    S. Arabia sar/usd .27
    UAE aed/usd .27
    Iraq iqd/usd .0006815

    here's some more.
    Currency and gold reserves:
    Bahrain $2.432 billion (2005 est.)
    Kuwait $8.972 billion (2005 est.)
    Oman $4.358 billion (2005 est.)
    Qatar $4.552 billion (2005 est.)
    S. Arabia $26.76 billion (2005 est.)
    UAE $23.53 billion (2005 est.)
    Iraq $9.161 billion (2005 est.)

    And their proven oil reserves:
    Bahrain 124 million bbl (2005 est.)
    Kuwait 96.5 billion bbl (2005 est.)
    Oman 6.1 billion bbl (2005 est.)
    Qatar 16 billion bbl (2005 est.)
    S. Arabia 262.7 billion bbl (2005 est.)
    UAE 97.8 billion bbl (2005 est.)
    Iraq 112.5 billion bbl (2005 est.)

    FYI, these estimates are from the CIA fact book.

    I'm still trying to find M0, M1, M2 (money supply) data but maybe someone knows better where to find this??..??

    Wow! we are up there with Kuwait, and look at Kuwaits exchange rate. If only the violence would stop we would all be rich.....

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