Thread: Iraq/Dinar News. 09/05 to 01/14/07

Hi Everyone,

I apologies for getting upset earlier. I have had a really bad week my Uncle died unexpectedly and it seems like my family is drooping like flies. I was feeling like RC had lost it's excited upbeat vibe that I love so much. I have decided to post again as I have had some wonderful Pm's which I am thankful for. I also have been reading the last page or so and it seems like the happy excited vibe still lives I love the dancing bananas.

I should not have taken it so personal I know we all get bashed once in a while but this is just a very stressful time for me. God know I am not afraid to stand up for myself but what I really wanted to say to the nasty comment was very unpleasant so I decide best not to say it.

I did not want people to get the wrong message with me saying form your own opinion but it seems like over the last week everyone has changed there out look. I thought most of us believe very strongly that it would RV soon at a high rate. But it seemed that a lot of people had changed there mind on these points which confused me and made me worried.

Sorry Neno I did not mean to disrespect the forum you do a great job and this is a very nice place I guess all forum get those little pest bashers. But you do control them well. I just had a hard week so please forgive me.

I think we needs some of SGS

WOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTT

RV SOON!!!!!!!

Dinar-Excited

Eurasia Insight:
IRAN SEEKS TO KEEP US TROOPS IN IRAQ
Kamal Nazer Yasin: 11/13/06


Iran is working quietly but feverishly to prevent the total collapse of order in Baghdad and the hasty departure of US forces. Some policy experts in Tehran say a full-blown civil war in Iraq would constitute a “catastrophic development” for Iranian geopolitical interests.

A scheduled November 13 policy speech by British Prime Minister Tony Blair was widely expected to contain a call for the United States to engage Iran and Syria on ways to stem the spiraling violence in Iraq and, more broadly, to promote Middle East peace. The Bush administration has long been hostile to both Iran and Syria, but the sweeping gains made by opposition Democrats during the recent US congressional elections are exerting considerable pressure on Bush to reevaluate his foreign policies. Bush was due to meet November 13 with a panel of experts in Washington, known as the Iraq Study Group, which is reviewing US policy options toward Baghdad.

The Iranian government wasted little time in spreading word that it was prepared to hold direct talks with the United States on Iraq stabilization issues. Government spokesman Gholam-Hossein Elham told journalists November 13 that Tehran was hoping Washington “would make a revision of its anti-Iranian attitude,” the official IRNA news agency reported.

Bush, however, cautioned Tehran later November 13 not to expect any US move toward dialogue on Iraq, or any other issue, unless Iran suspends its efforts to enrich uranium. [For background see the Eurasia Insight archive].

From Iran’s standpoint, Iraq’s current situation represents a two-pronged challenge: one, Iranian officials are eager to prevent a widening of sectarian violence between Shi’a and Sunni Muslims; and, two, Tehran does not want to see a precipitous departure of US troops in Iraq.

As recently as September, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told a visiting Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki that the “unwanted guests [US troops] must leave the region as soon as possible.” But as Iraq careens toward civil war, Iranian officials, along with the leaders of other Middle Eastern states, seem to have publicly softened their rhetoric concerning the US military presence.

“Iranian leaders are as terrified of a hasty US departure as everyone else in the area. They just pretend otherwise,” said a political scientist in Tehran who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The political scientist added that a “country-wide civil war in Iraq … would be a catastrophic development for Iran” on many levels. The academic outlined a scenario in which civil war in Iraq would likely produce a refugee crisis in neighboring Iran, which, in turn, could reignite long-simmering inter-ethnic hostilities in Iranian territories along the 700-mile common border. “Iranian security forces are simply not prepared to protect that border against a massive inflow of refugees, weapons, smugglers and armed adversaries of all kinds,” the political scientist said.

Beyond a potential refugee crisis, the continuation of the existing trend, culminating in the possible partition of Iraq, would constitute a major diplomatic defeat for Tehran. At present, a Shi’a-dominated government is in place in Baghdad for the first time in modern history. Iran is eager not to lose this strategic advantage.

Iran is believed to have been a generous supplier of arms and logistical support to a variety of Iraqi factions, most notably radical Shi’a cleric Moqtada al-Sadr’s Mahdi militia. Earlier, Iran tacitly encouraged the factions to use their weaponry in an effort to destabilize Iraq and bog down US forces there. Now, Iranian officials are heeding a call for restraint by religious leaders in the Shi’a holy city of Najaf. Iraq’s leading ayatollah, Ali al-Sistani, has reportedly urged Iranian leaders to take steps to bolster the embattled Shi’a government in Baghdad. Ayatollah Sistani’s clerical position obligates Tehran to go along with his wishes, Iranian political observers say. Sadr himself has urged his followers to show restraint. However, his calls have opened cracks within the Mahdi militia, as some radical elements appear unwilling to moderate their violent tactics.

Another major factor in Iran’s policy-making calculus is a desire to maintain “strategic depth.” Iranian leaders remain concerned that the Bush administration harbors plans to use force to stop Iran’s nuclear program. [For background see the Eurasia Insight archive]. The ability to retaliate against US troops in Iraq, as well as against Israel via the Hezbollah militia in Lebanon, is seen by Iranian officials as leverage that diminishes the chances of an American attack on Iran. [For additional information see the Eurasia Insight archive].

Iran is believed to have established vast networks of pro-Iranian elements in Iraq, including special-forces units (collectively known as the Quds Brigade), that can be mobilized quickly to carry out attacks against American forces, if Iran itself comes under a US attack. Wayne White, a former Deputy Director of the Bureau of Intelligence and Research at the State Department, said that Iraq would become a theater of Iranian operations in the event of a US attack against Tehran. “Of course," White said, “US forces are sitting targets there [in Iraq]."

Iranian action to restrain sectarian violence should not be construed as support for Washington’s stabilization efforts, some American political analysts say. Tehran continues to work to undermine US influence in the region, even as it works to keep US troops around.

“Iran would want America to bleed slowly, but not so much as to have it redeploy completely out of Iraq," said W. Patrick Lang, a former high-ranking officer for the US Defense Intelligence Agency. [For additional information see Lang’s blog].

"Moqtada and the Iranians have adopted a waiting posture," Lang said. To supporting his assertion that Iran wants the United States to remain bogged down in Iraq, Lang pointed out that “80 percent of US supplies come from Kuwait via land routes deep inside the Shi’a heartland." Lang added that if Iran desired, it could have its proxies, including the Mahdi militia, turn the transport corridor into “a shooting gallery.”


Editor’s Note: Kamal Nazer Yasin is a pseudonym for a freelance journalist specializing in Iranian affairs.

2 questions

is chase still selling dinar?

BofA is not selling dinar?

yes,no

Originally Posted by RetMil

SGS, we are hearing now that some have been told by Chase that in order to exchange their dinar for dollars they will have to have had an account with them for one year. Have you heard anything like that for BoA?

i asked my teller, she said same day exchange, cash out the door..

but for a high amount, which this could be, I believe it will take days to get your money.

i think they will exchange for anyone regardless on if you have an account, why wouldn't they, they are a bank, banks are business, business' are in business to make money. you will probably just have to wait to recieve a check, if it's a large amount that is

my 2 dinars

Originally Posted by mike brown

2 questions

is chase still selling dinar?

BofA is not selling dinar?

Chase in New Jersey is selling. I went in today to order a 2 million and was able to get it on the spot, 1000, 5000 and 25k notes were available. The teller said that a few people had exchanged dinar today. I hope those few people were smart enough to hold onto some.

Sorry Neno, But i just gotta say I've been reading threads here for over a year now, and i just gotta tell evreyone of the rolclub members. You folks are the BEST bunch of reporters I've ever had the pleasure of listening to.I salute everyone of you great people. Thank you

Originally Posted by CharmedPiper

I found this link on my desktop and was reading it and re-reading it and I need an opinion. Is this reading approved on November 12, 2006 for distribution next Sunday which would be tomorrow November 19, 2006. Could we have mis-interpretted the dates all along and this event has not happened yet but is due tomorrow..

Next Sunday the distribution amounts violated in Babylon

Guinness Mesopotamia : Hilla / Amir Muhammad

Start Rafidain Bank branch Babel next Sunday regardless grant feast that had been endorsed by the Council of Ministers to grant citizens the occasion of the Eid al-Fitr holiday, said Mr. Hakim Hussein Jabr director of Rafidain Bank /

Babylon saying this grant will be disbursed as of next Sunday, approved in 2006 / 11 / 12 for three months as a the agenda for stabilizing agents by the names and the date of payment of the grant families so that all citizens receiving and continue to exchange up to 2007 / 1 / 31, adding the purpose of getting rid of the fraud had been organized special restrictions of each family as a special Bank.

Translated version of http://nahrain.com/d/news/06/11/10/nhr1110f.html

Great point CharmedPiper,

It would make sense if they are having big meetings on Monday to have an RV rate to negotiate with and if they give those checks out tomorrow just in time for the meeting and the big plan they are setting in motion next week to decrease violence. I think a nice pay day and RV will decrease the violence.

Thanks again for pointing out great information it is much appreciated.

Dinar-Excited

Originally Posted by coxy

Hi All,

Just called at 1:22 EST and spoke to an assistant manager and yes the original rate was the tellers misquote and the manager has been getting lots of calls.
They are selling dinar:
1 M dinars for 764.10 USD.

Wouldnt it have been nice!

Great to have had the telephone number to confirm ... Thanks.

Back to a regular Saturday but still looking forward to tomorrows auction to see how things are evoling...

in the future if we call a bank or ANYWHERE we should NEVER post the number in the forum. only one person should be making these phone calls.

when you post the number you can bet that alot of members are going to try their own hand at the call and there are 20,000+ members here. its a wonder any of us get any kind of information over the phone.

if you were at the other end of that number would you want it to ring incessantly asking you the same question over and over again? it would tend to irritate me slightly and i wouldnt tell anyone anything.

Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com

Exactly,

This has always been my take on issues as well. After all, when you look at all of Iraq, Kurdistan has had the most economic growth and prosperity, even when under the rule of Saddam, they still managed to protect themselves as well as prosper, and I find that simply amazing.

Having delt with the Kurd's on a few projects has given me a little insight in how they operate, and not being familiar with Baghdad for obvious reasons when Saddam was in power, I can now see just how ass backwords Baghdad is in relation to Kurdistan.

When you know it was the Kurd's who hammered out FIL and most other major economic bills, you start to see who should really be in control of gov. in Iraq. I personally feel it is time to seperate regions now that the fair distribution of oil wealth issues are complete for some things you just cannot change, and sectarian violence is one of them.

With all the killing these past few months, it is now painfully obvious Iraq cannot function as one nation as the hatred created by Saddam's regime runs too deep to ever correct or change. Killing exists for no other reason than greed, always has, always will. Under Saddam, the minority were the wealthy, under new gov., ironically, the Suni fear being the poor, how ironic is this? With a fair distribution of wealth, all these issues will desolve and then back to normal greed, not sectarian greed, and although killing will still go on, it will not be for greed or money, it will be for sectarian reasons, which is back to basics as this is common in middle east region.

The sooner the economics is squared away, the better off everyone will be, including all of us. You cannot win this war on terrorism when the ones blowing themselves up are the sub poor and illiterate. Why do you think the insurgents are attacking the educators? They know that if you keep illiterate majority, which ultimately were the most poor, then they had a pool of suiciders to draw from. This is so simple to figure out, yet the U.S. and Iraqi gov. seem to be missing the point, you cannot stop sectarian violence until you end poverty.

Speaking of poverty, the word from my Kurds is still no word on 10K handout. This may have more to do with revalue potential than I first thought, so time will tell why they have delayed it longer than anyone thought, but here is hoping it is for a good reason. Given the equal distribution in Kuwait, the 10K would make more sense if revalue was at dollar rate, and this could be just the first distribution, of which three more would be ideal on a quaterly basis as I would like to see.

On a sidenote, imagine if they held this 10K over the heads of all Iraqi's as a tool to stop sectarian violence. In short, if one is caught in any sectarian violence, they and their families are cut out of the distribution system. In addition, anyone caught looking the other way on violence would also loose their distributions. And to take it a step further, any illegal activity, such as black marketing, price gouging etc. would also end distributions. As I have always said, the majority of violence could have ended ages ago if they would have put all the money wasted on security directly into the hands of the poor, the suicide killings will end.

Good luck to all, Mike

Good points Mike and remember the Kurds were the only group holding Switz Dinar and had an exchange rate of 150 NID to 1 when the exchange took place.