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    Print Story: Saudis work to curb Iran's influence on Yahoo! News
    Saudis work to curb Iran's influence By DONNA ABU-NASR, Associated Press Writer
    Sat Dec 2, 12:52 PM ET



    Worried by Iran's deepening involvement in the Arab world, Saudi Arabia has been working quietly to curtail the Shiite nation's influence and prevent the marginalization of Sunni Muslims in the region's hotspots.

    Analysts say the tug-of-war between the two Mideast powers signals a new chapter in an uneasy relationship, one that has swung over the years between wariness and — at times — outright confrontation.

    On the surface, both countries have maintained the civil front that has marked ties since a thaw in relations in the early 1990s.

    "But events on the ground indicate that the two countries are working against each other as their differences are played out outside their borders," said Ibrahim Bayram, a reporter for the Lebanese An-Nahar newspaper, who follows the country's pro-Iranian Hezbollah group.

    Saudi Arabia, a key U.S. ally in the region, has been putting its economic and diplomatic weight behind groups in direct confrontation with factions backed by Iran in every major conflict zone in the region — Iraq, Lebanon and the Palestinian territories.
    The kingdom has also expressed concerns over Iran's nuclear program. The U.S. contends Iran is seeking to develop nuclear weapons, which Iran denies. But Saudi Arabia has fears even about a peaceful nuclear program because of the possible environmental threat and the potential for conflict between Iran and U.S. troops stationed in Kuwait, Qatar and Bahrain.

    A Saudi official said Iran has sent messages expressing its desire to work with the kingdom to resolve the area's conflicts. But the official said Iran's actions speak louder than those messages, making Saudi Arabia cautious in dealing with Tehran. He spoke
    on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

    The tense situation has also made the kingdom more determined to explore ways to find a settlement to Mideast upheavals on its own.

    Saudi Arabia has stepped up attempts to reconcile Iraq's fractious groups and has invited Iraqi leaders for talks, including anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and Harith al-Dhari, head of Iraq's influential Sunni Association of Muslim Scholars. It has also been talking to Iraq's Sunnis to urge them to renounce violence and become more involved in the political process.
    Elsewhere, the kingdom is supporting the U.S.-backed Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora, who is facing street protests organized by Hezbollah meant to topple the government. The Saudis are also backing beleaguered Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who is trying to work out a new unity government with the militant Hamas group, which is allied to Iran.

    The relationship between Iran and Saudi Arabia has long been uneasy, especially after the 1979 Iranian revolution. Saudi Arabia sided with Baghdad in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war, and Riyadh and Tehran were openly hostile at the height of the conflict.

    Iran frequently called on Muslims to overthrow the Saudi ruling family, seize its oil wealth and strip it of its role as guardian of Islamic holy places. Riyadh accused Tehran of trying to undermine its security and broke off relations in 1988.
    But distrust between the two countries eased after Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini's death in 1989, and diplomatic relations were restored shortly after the 1991 Gulf War.
    Saudi analysts say Iran is now trying to wrest the traditional leadership role Riyadh has played in the region. But Saudi Arabia will "not allow Iran to expand at its expense as a big regional power," said Dawood al-Shirian, a Saudi journalist.

    "Iran is acting as a Persian state and not as an Islamic state," he said. "The conflict in the region is not a Sunni-Shiite conflict. It's a Persian-Arab conflict."

    The view from Iran is different, said Mashaallah Shamsolvaezin, an adviser to the Middle East Strategic Studies Center in Tehran, which is closely affiliated with the Iranian Foreign Ministry.

    He said a change in Iranian foreign policy to focus on improving economic and political ties with Middle Eastern countries instead of Europe has prompted the Saudi fears. He said the political shift is not coming at the expense of traditional powers like Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

    He blamed Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's "radical" rhetoric for Tehran's failure to send a reassuring message about its policy shifts.

    "His statements not only have not helped. They have hurt Iran's strategic policies," he said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloribee View Post
    I've fired up my Flux capacitor, to 10.5 mega watts and discovered that its somehow riding a ...

    CRAZY TRAIN... HEY WAIT A MINUTE ... Where is OZ ???

    He's after maliki to do the Reval !!!:rofl:

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunsusie View Post
    if they are the same ones they bought there then the bank wouldnt have to verify their authenticity now would they??
    I don't think they keep track of serial numbers of the dinars they sell to you, authenty will probably have to be checked..

    on one of my chase bank purchases, they told me that, I give them the dinars, they hand me cash, right then and their..... i believe that is probably not accurate, unless it's a small amount, say under $1,000 usd

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunsusie View Post
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    opening more banking establishments to aide in handing out the stipends.
    has their been a new date posted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wm.Knowles View Post
    Hello everyone. Well, its been an exciting weekend with new rumors and a lot of very good discussion. Our new rumor is .14 cents from the green zone. Anyone heard anything else about this? Well, the auction in the am will be another good piece of information. I forgot to say earlier, that if we thought November was exciting, I think Dec. may even be more so. So hang on. Have a good evening. Thank You for all of your comments and discussion.
    can you give us more details?

    p.s. what is the green zone?

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    It looks like the BIG BOYS are having a pow wow....hope their pens are just signing away!!!!!

    Under the supervision of His Excellency President Jalal Talabani political entities

    (Voice of Iraq) - 03-12-2006
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    Political entities looking at the political and security issues


    Ashraf His Excellency President Jalal Talabani, on the afternoon of 2 / 12 in his private office in Baghdad on a meeting of political entities and attended by Massoud Barzani, head of Kurdistan region and the state of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and Dr. Adel Abdalmahdi and Dr. Tariq Al-Hashmi Vice President of the Republic and the American ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad and the Dr. Barham Ahmed Salih Deputy Prime Minister and Dr. Rose Nouri Shaways.
    It was in this meeting was to review the results of the successful visit of His Excellency President Talabani to Iran and the State of the Prime Minister talks with President Bush and the Jordanian monarch in Amman, as described conferees Balnajehtin visits and exchange Almthmertin also been talk in political and security issues and the real participation of the entities in the political decision-making.

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    can i get at least one reply to this?? :)

    it seems as though anything $1.00 or more R/V, that 90% of the people on this forum will be cashing in?

    but also seems to be that 90% or the people here believe that if their is an R/V of $1.00 or more that it will go to over $3.00 in the 2-3 years or sooner?

    so will people be cashing in a small amount to cover things, or 100% cash out?

    because if it goes up $1.00 a year over the next 2 years, thats 100% on your money.... tough to beat?

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    Where are all the woooots, farm jigs, and kitty wiggles.......get those bananas dancing gang looks like we are pulling into the station!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike brown View Post
    can i get at least one reply to this?? :)

    it seems as though anything $1.00 or more R/V, that 90% of the people on this forum will be cashing in?

    but also seems to be that 90% or the people here believe that if their is an R/V of $1.00 or more that it will go to over $3.00 in the 2-3 years or sooner?

    so will people be cashing in a small amount to cover things, or 100% cash out?

    because if it goes up $1.00 a year over the next 2 years, thats 100% on your money.... tough to beat?

    Well I can't speak for anyone else but if it did hit $1.00 I would cash in 1mil, that would pay off everything I own + cover taxes and STILL have a nice bankroll. then I would sit and wait. I have # worked out with my wife, when we get to that point, we cash out and I never look at the exchange rate again

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsfletcher View Post
    Well I can't speak for anyone else but if it did hit $1.00 I would cash in 1mil, that would pay off everything I own + cover taxes and STILL have a nice bankroll. then I would sit and wait. I have # worked out with my wife, when we get to that point, we cash out and I never look at the exchange rate again
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