Thread: Iraq/Dinar News. 09/05 to 01/14/07

The imams of Najaf and Karbala stress national solution

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Karbala - AFP : stressed imams Shiite mosques in the Friday sermon yesterday on the "national leadership," to the problems of Iraq and "not imported foreign" and considered one of them that the recommendations of the Commission Baker-Hamilton "in line with the the Iraqi experiment and not against them" ·, said Sheikh Ahmed the net, Solicitor's legitimate the Repertory of the large Ali al-Sistani in front of thousands of worshipers in Karbala : "in Iraq an attempt complex can not be promotes dissolving the only their adherents as are not asked solution from abroad but rather from inside Iraq" · He has refused to most of the leaders of Iraq idea of an international conference called for by the Secretary-General of the United Nations Kofi Annan · He added the net "all the states of the world are experiencing conflict politically but not reach the point of killings, and displacement · Vallarba years were witness to what is happening there are no real intentions There are no susceptible to Itassarhua" in an allusion to the politicians ·
In Najaf, said before Friday in Husseinieh Fatimid major Sheikh Sadreddin Al-Kabangi close to the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution : that "resolving the Iraqi issue must be based on the national will, and not on solving foreign importer" · He added, "must involve all components already, and not to stand idly by and withdrawals · should be each community benefits could not accept the verdict of the majority of the minority or minority to the majority if we want a solution Iraqi There Constitution, why crushed and we ask the international community solution"? He continued Qabbanji in reference to a group of studies on Iraq, "We believe that the Commission's recommendations are reasonable and consistent with the proper contexts for the Iraqi government as it is consistent with the experience of Iraq and not against it" ·

D. Barham Ahmed Salih : any proposal contained in the report

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D. Barham Ahmed Salih : any proposal contained in the report of Baker incompatible with the constitution would not be acceptable at all

Union : first issued yesterday in Washington, a study report of Iraq known as "the Baker Hamilton." Have been many reactions to the Iraqi report of the Committee. In a statement addressed by the "Union" said Dr. Barham Ahmed Salih Deputy Prime Minister :
"In time, we see the vision of the Commission with respect to the security dossier to Iraqis, in line with the national vision and demand the government and the majority of political forces in the country,

And through enhanced performance through governmental and administrative reform and improve the standard of the service sector in addition to the reform of the security services and enhance its credibility, as well as the emphasis on the sustainability of the Iraqis is the responsibility of opinion in the district as the political reforms and national reconciliation are the benefits of security and the future, subject to government and the leaders and parties, we are committed to these reforms so that we can Tgeez course of events and ending the tragic situation.
And Dr. Barham Salih stressed that any proposal contained in the report is contrary to the Constitution emanating from the free will and the elections, in which approximately (12) million Iraqis would not be acceptable at all. "
And on the Commission's proposal to give a greater role for the regional states Dr. Saleh said "it must be clear that any tutelage on the Iraqi affair from the outset unacceptable and we strongly against any foreign intervention would circumvent the Constitution and the will of the Iraqi government and the political process must be supportive of international efforts to enable Iraqis to exercise their options in the development of the democratic process and institutions of the State.
He added that any foreign intervention in Iraqi affairs will come only with more disasters and the scourge and the complexity of the crisis and problems, while efforts must be all his towards national reconciliation and deepen the ties and bonds of national unity within Iraqi society.
And on the Baker proposal Hamilton on a greater role for the United Nations on the amendment of the constitution said Dr. Barham Salih : "The Iraqi constitution has mapped out specific mechanisms and clear a political contract between the components of the Iraqi people should be the amendment within the mechanisms established by the Constitution in accordance with Article (142), which gives powers of the House of Representatives through the Constitution Review Committee, which began its work for the necessary adjustments, in accordance with the principle of consensus.
Regarding the claim of a study of Iraq to postpone the holding of the referendum to determine the fate of the province of Kirkuk said Barham Salih : "Article 140 painted a clear road map for solving this problem and chronic effects of the policy of liquidation distortion cleansing, the Iraqis who will solve the problem of Kirkuk, which would ensure justice for all and the liquidation of the effects of policies of the previous regime to promote national unity in Iraq.
Says Dr. Barham Salih : "It had not been surprised at the report of Baker Hamilton, saying that the situation in Iraq is serious, but Barham Salih said it is very dangerous and can not continue in this situation and continue the spiral of violence which claim the lives of innocent Iraqis every day.
Barham Salih asked the moderate forces and anxious about the future of Iraq to take the bold step, saying : "The time for the leaders of the moderate and anxious about the future of Iraq should take seriously among unions, and active for the formation of a coalition of moderate and wise of all the Iraqi formations, which will be insufficient to solve the problems."
He called sensible moderates in the region and the international community to support Iraq's efforts to ensure the success of this work and a new orientation to defeat terrorists and extremists.

President discuss with the Virtue Party, the latest developments

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Excellencies discuss with the Virtue Party, the latest political developments

He also met with His Excellency the President of the Republic, Mr. Jalal Talabani at his residence in Baghdad Thursday, a delegation from the Islamic Virtue Party, comprised of Sheikh Yousef Kinani and Sheikh Sami Mas'udi, Dr. Sheikh Hassan al-Shamri. On behalf of Sharif.
The delegation delivered during the meeting, which was attended by Dr. Fouad Massoum head of the Kurdistan Alliance in the House of Representatives and the Iraqi Mr. Fakhri Karim, Samaha greetings to His Excellency Sheikh have deployed during the meeting also discussed ways and means to promote bilateral cooperation between the two sides. For his part, President Talabani delegation personal greetings to His Eminence Sheikh deployed personnel, pointing out that there is a sincere intention to build better relations between the Kurdistan Alliance and the Virtue Party bloc in the parliament, especially between the Iraqi Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, the Virtue Party.


He called on His Excellency the Virtue Party to send a high-level delegation to the Kurdistan region in order to discuss on how to build solid relations and cooperation between the two sides.
Also, the President Talabani light of the latest developments on the Iraqi arena, and said : We need to organize our ranks for the success of our duties and national support our national.
Meanwhile, the price of the Virtue Party delegation of the efforts of President Talabani high for its continuous defense of the independence and sovereignty of Iraq and its democratic federal parliamentary delegation also through the willingness of the Virtue Party to build better relations with the Kurdistan Alliance and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan.

Tomorrow, Dr. Ahmed Chalabi

He also met with His Excellency the President of the Republic, Mr. Jalal Talabani Thursday, Dr. Ahmad Chalabi, head of the Iraqi National Congress, in his headquarters in Baghdad. The two sides discussed during the meeting the latest political and security of Iraq, and during the meeting the two sides exchanged views on a number of issues of common interest.

Originally Posted by shotgunsusie

it would be at night after church etc. when this letter/post came out. it would be very possible for them to conviene late on friday. remember that they must have 3 of these and 2 days between so it should take 5 days to complete.

I am trying to figure this out. How is that 5 days?

OSOK

Originally Posted by cigarman

So your saying that if Bill Gates cashed out he would take 1/8th of our whole nations money in circulation? I have a problem with people spouting off about M1, M2, M3 amounts and how the USA,s GDP is this or that. How in the world can the USA only have 300 billion in circulation if 1/2 the world uses it? I'm no financial expert but somewhere down the line we're being lied to.

Your response is out of context. If you look at my previous post, it stated under 300 billion in paper within the US, 800 Billion+ liquid paper throughout the world and a total of $3.3 Trillion including bank deposits. I then companred that to our GDP which is $12 Trillion. Therefore we have labout 1/4 GDP liquid cash and buying power in circulation.

Irag has a $94 Billion dollar economy with 14 Trillion Dinar in circulation and in reserve which to a large degree pegs its value per Dinar. 14 Trillion Dinar equal to 1 US dollar could buy every product and service produced in our country in one year. These are facts, not lies.

PLease visit www.cia.org for global stats on GDP.
PLease visit FRB: Currency and Coin Services

Envoys from Maliki to neighboring countries to discuss contract

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Envoys from Maliki to neighboring countries to discuss the convening of a regional conference in Baghdad

Compatibility : Iraq has become an international issue, whether we like it or not : * Coalition internationalization file aggravated complex

BAGHDAD : Numan Alhimus

Send Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki this week by the envoys to neighboring Arab states and other Islamic and other Arab countries. A source close to the Iraqi Council of Ministers of the Middle East »« The envoys have a vision on the regional conference, which calls on the Iraqi government to stay in Baghdad, and the desire of the Iraqi government to involve everyone in the establishment of security in Iraq. So, it was revealed Iraqi National Security Advisor Muwaffaq Rubaie, the Iraqi initiative close to the convening of a regional conference in Baghdad to the neighboring countries to support the Iraqi government, based on firm foundations is the unity of Iraq, federalism, national reconciliation and a new Iraq.

So, Dr. Adnan Al Dulaimi, head of the Iraqi Accord Front told the Middle East «» : «We support any positive initiative is any quarter, whether that initiative work sincerely and honestly to save Iraq from the deteriorating situation, which now». The Dulaimi that the Iraqi issue «now become an issue of the impact of the regional and international interest, whether we like it or not», indicating that the call for Kofi Annan, Secretary-General of the United Nations for an international conference «initiative that reflects the concern of the international organization and the Iraqi situation deserves study and attention». For his part, Abbas Al-Bayati MP in the House of Representatives from the Iraqi United Iraqi Alliance, the invitation to the Secretary-General of the United Nations «is not a formal invitation has not come through diplomatic means, but Balonh information did not come from the study and dialogue with the Iraqi parties».

He said Bayati «that the internationalization of the Iraqi file leads to complexity and the entry of new players they agenda differs from the national agenda, and that the call to Kofi Annan through the establishment of an international conference aimed at the abolition of political achievements and the activation of a new negatively affect the entire political process, which is not clearly defined, and the call came in a period-appropriate, an invitation improvised not based on the reading of genuine Square Iraq either regional conference convened by the President of the Council of Ministers aims to grasp the initiative Iraqis in the regional».

He explained that Al-Bayati «regional conference must define the goal of which is security and stability and is not open to all Iraqi affair, because that makes us be competitive and attract», noting that the regional conference with a clear and definite goal, and not dealing with the political situation and any other non-security and stability-class basis.

For his part, affirmed Party «Turkman Eli» the Turkman In a press statement, he, that the invitation of Iraqi Prime Minister to convene a regional conference to discuss how to enhance security and stability in Iraq «is a positive initiative worthy of attention as long as they aimed at the exchange of viewpoints with the Iraqi neighboring states on the possibility of stabilize the security conditions and support the efforts of the Iraqi government in the face of challenges», terming the invitation of the United Nations to establish a of an international conference b «initiative negative which were aimed at the imposition of international tutelage on the Iraqi people and the confiscation of will and the disregard of the political process via the call to the convening of an international conference to discuss the problem the Iraqi».
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Can someone bring me up to speed with the previous news from this weekend I believe.

1) I read that they are considering Releasing Saddam Hussien to calm the Sunnis in Parliment and get them to cooperate in the training of Millitary personal.

2) Religious Leader/Politician Sadhr, was he killed this weekend or not, and if so what were or are the implications to this info.

Thank all of you who provide informational posts!

This just goes to show you how many meetings must be done behind closed doors!!!

Iraq Meetings of the House of Representatives :

Morning talk
Mohamed Abdul Jabbar carp
The Chamber of Deputies, in every democratic system, is the backbone of this system, and protector of the democratic process, which is this task on the basis of the country's permanent constitution. One of the most important features of democracy

Foundations and the principle of transparency, a principle that is basically a sheaf of the rights of citizens in a democratic society. Among those rights is the right to know what was happening in the corridors of the legislature and the executive, considering that what is being done by these authorities directly on the lives and interests of those citizens. And citizens need to know much of what is going on in the parliament sessions, such as the issues discussed, and opinions put forward by deputies about these issues, so knows the name of the deputies who spoke said, and what each and every one of them, in addition to the results of the vote, and to know the position of each deputy, a rejection or an acceptance or rejection of the vote. The citizen to know what is going on in the meetings either through attendance directly, or through media coverage, which usually attends the meetings. And some of the direct transport of the neighborhood meetings without prior censorship, in addition to the re-broadcast recording at a later time. Similarly, the parliamentary assemblies in democratic countries publish records of the public meetings and made available to citizens, researchers and observers and the mass media.

The constitutions of democratic countries on the public sessions of the House of Representatives, or parliament. This is provided for in Article 53 of our Constitution, which says the Permanent in the first paragraph as follows : "The meetings of the House of Representatives open only if the need was felt otherwise." The key lies in public meetings, but the right of the Council to see considerations, and are often related to security or the interests of the state supreme not only improves detection publicly. In this case, the Council will take a decision to make the extraordinary meeting confidential. The same article says in the second paragraph : "the minutes of meetings means that the Council sees fit. "

The sponsor of the rules of procedure of the text of these considerations in article nine and twenty (first paragraph) that "The meetings of the Council are open unless otherwise required urgent request of the Chairman of the meeting or the proposal of the Presidency or the Prime Minister or at the request of 35 of its members and with the consent of the majority of those present. In this case not attend the meeting until one of the Council's staff and the deputies is attributed by the head of the organization of the presidential record. "

Also approved Article 40 of the rules of procedure to allow "for a member of the Presidency and the Council of Ministers to attend meetings of the Council at his request, and approval of the Presidency, and to participate in discussions on the affairs of his ministry or the affairs of the government has rooming senior officials of the ministry to assist the permission of the President," while licensed second paragraph "for the citizens and media workers attend meetings of the Council permission of the Presidency unless the meetings secret."

Short Facts:

US Currency $3,300,000,000,000 3.3 Trillion
US GDP $12,000,000,000,000 12 Trillion (US)

Ratio = 1/4 liquid cash vs. GDP


Iraq Currency 14,000,000,000,000 14 Trillion
Iraq GDP $94,000,000,000 94 Billion (US)

1/4 of 94 Billion (US) = 23.5 Billion US
23.5 Billion Divided by 14 Trillion Dinar = 0.001672

This number reflects double the current exchange rate of the Dinar verses the Dollar. It is undervalued be seemingly by about 100% not 100,000%.

Buying power MUST equate to production power!!!

Originally Posted by Precocious

Your response is out of context. If you look at my previous post, it stated under 300 billion in paper within the US, 800 Billion+ liquid paper throughout the world and a total of $3.3 Trillion including bank deposits. I then companred that to our GDP which is $12 Trillion. Therefore we have labout 1/4 GDP liquid cash and buying power in circulation.

Irag has a $94 Billion dollar economy with 14 Trillion Dinar in circulation and in reserve which to a large degree pegs its value per Dinar. 14 Trillion Dinar equal to 1 US dollar could buy every product and service produced in our country in one year. These are facts, not lies.

PLease visit www.cia.org for global stats on GDP.
PLease visit FRB: Currency and Coin Services

Well my point is that I think the USA has alot more money printed than anybody knows. One thing our Federal Reserve doesn't mind doing is cranking up the printing presses. I also believe that this things going to hit bigger than you mathmaticians can justify. The one thing you need to understand that is that you don't have all of the facts, you have what your allowed to see. Tell me why the Iraqi banks were told to keep 1 set of books at the old rate? Apparently the Iraqi dinar wasn't so overvalued when we went in like the so called experts want us to believe. If the Iraqi dinar was actually close to it's worth after years of sanctions and abuse by Saddam, then it's possible for it to be worth pre-Saddam levels now especially when you throw in debt relief. It's my option if I want to believe that the impossible can happen just as much as your option that it can't. If I was you, I would sell my dinar and get out because apparently you have lost faith in this.