Thread: Iraq/Dinar News. 09/05 to 01/14/07

Originally Posted by CharmedPiper

This is what I get....very interesting!


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Boy you got alot more info than I did CP! Just wonder whats up with this? I checked the whois to see when they last updated and it was on Aug 8 '06 and the 64.233.179.104 home page doesn't even exist. After I looked at the name server (64.233.179.104 home page) I hit the back button (which should've brought me back to where I checked the domain name) and got this..

iraqigovernment.org
Domain (ex. internic.net)
Registrar (ex. ABC Registrar, Inc.)
Nameserver (ex. ns.example.com or 192.16.0.192)


Domain ID:D103823764-LROR
Domain Name:CBIRAQ.ORG
Created On:18-Jan-2004 14:34:27 UTC
Last Updated On:20-Oct-2006 19:51:23 UTC
Expiration Date:18-Jan-2010 14:34:27 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Go Daddy Software, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:GODA-05130817
Registrant Name:CBI CBI
Registrant Street1:Al-Rasheed St.
Registrant Street2:Baghdad-Iraq
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Baghdad
Registrant State/Province:Baghdad
Registrant Postal Code:00964
Registrant Country:IQ
Registrant Phone:+964.018165171
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:GODA-25130817
Admin Name:CBI CBI
Admin Street1:Al-Rasheed St.
Admin Street2:baghdad-Iraq
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Baghdad
Admin State/Province:Baghdad
Admin Postal Code:00964
Admin Country:IQ
Admin Phone:+964.8165171
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:GODA-15130817
Tech Name:CBI CBI
Tech Street1:Al-Rasheed St.
Tech Street2:baghdad-Iraq
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Baghdad
Tech State/Province:Baghdad
Tech Postal Code:00964
Tech Country:IQ
Tech Phone:+964.8165171
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:WSC1.JOMAX.NET
Name Server:WSC2.JOMAX.NET

I have NO IDEA why it put up the CBIraq.org website info because the previous page was this...

Domain ID:D104783085-LROR
Domain Name:IRAQIGOVERNMENT.ORG
Created On:20-Aug-2004 14:54:13 UTC
Last Updated On:08-Aug-2006 00:22:12 UTC
Expiration Date:20-Aug-2007 14:54:13 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Namesdirect Inc. (R92-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:DOT-1XU6K07HLZTE
Registrant Name:Akeel Wall
Registrant Organization:AMASoft Ltd
Registrant Street1:1 Brook lane business centre
Registrant Street2:Brook lane North, bentford
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:London
Registrant State/Province:Middix
Registrant Postal Code:TW8 0PP
Registrant Country:GB
Registrant Phone:+44.02085699721
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+44.02085682738
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:DOT-F8ZI90LNI631
Admin Name:Akeel Wall
Admin Organization:AMASoft Ltd
Admin Street1:1 Brook lane business centre
Admin Street2:Brook lane North, bentford
Admin Street3:
Admin City:London
Admin State/Province:Middix
Admin Postal Code:TW8 0PP
Admin Country:GB
Admin Phone:+44.02085699721
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:+44.02085682738
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:DOT-X4H78DLH2CQ4
Tech Name:Akeel Wall
Tech Organization:AMASoft Ltd
Tech Street1:1 Brook lane business centre
Tech Street2:Brook lane North, bentford
Tech Street3:
Tech City:London
Tech State/Province:Middix
Tech Postal Code:TW8 0PP
Tech Country:GB
Tech Phone:+44.02085699721
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+44.02085682738
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:NS0.ATASOFT.ORG
Name Server:NS1.ATASOFT.ORG

ODD....VERY ODD!! Because I DID NOT do a whois on the CBIraq.org site! Still scratching my head on this one!

Cheers!
DayDream

Dec 10, 8:51 AM EST

Talabani Calls Iraq Report 'Dangerous'

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- The Iraqi president said Sunday the bipartisan U.S. report calling for a new approach to the war offered dangerous recommendations that would undermine his country's sovereignty and were "an insult to the people of Iraq."

President Jalal Talabani was the most senior government official to take a stand against the Iraq Study Group report, which has come under criticism from leaders of the governing Shiite and Kurdish parties.

He said the report "is not fair, is not just, and it contains some very dangerous articles which undermine the sovereignty of Iraq and the constitution."

He singled out the report's call for the approval of a de-Baathification law that could allow thousands of officials from Saddam Hussein's ousted Baath party to return to their jobs.

The Kurdish leader also criticized the call for increasing the number of U.S. troops embedded to train Iraqis from 3,000 to 4,000 currently to 10,000 to 20,000.

"It is not respecting the desire of the Iraqi people to control its army and to be able to rearm and train Iraqi forces under the leadership of the Iraqi government," he said.

He said the Iraqi government planned to send a letter to President Bush "expressing our views about the main issues" in the report, although he would not elaborate.

An aide to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Saturday the Iraqi leader had reservations about the report but has yet to form a detailed response.

Sunni Arabs said they agree with the assessment of Iraq's problems in the report by the commission headed by former Republican Secretary of State James A. Baker III and former Democratic Rep. Lee Hamilton, but not the proposals to fix them.

Talabani said Iraqis were not intimidated by the report's threat to reduce political, military or economic support (could it be because they know when they reval their currency they can support themselves and half the other arab countries in the region!) if the government in Baghdad cannot make substantial progress. The report said Iraqi leaders have failed to deliver better security or political compromises that would reduce violence, and it implied that a four-month joint U.S.-Iraqi military campaign to reduce violence in Baghdad is hopeless.

"I believe that President George Bush is a brave and committed man and he is adamant to support the Iraqi government until they've reached success," he said. He said setting conditions was "an insult to the people of Iraq." (Now you know they know something fantastic is about to happen, and so does President Bush....this week will be wild!!)
Bush has given the report a lukewarm reception and said he will weigh its recommendations along with other possible courses of action.

The recommendations, which are not binding, also have met opposition from some in the United States for the suggestion to withdraw nearly all combat brigades from Iraq by early 2008.

Talabani said the date was realistic if the Iraqi government is given more responsibility for security.

"If we can agree with the U.S. government to give us the right of organizing, training, arming our armed forces, it will be possible in 2008 (for U.S.-led forces) to start to leave Iraq and to go back home," he said.

Kurds have been the strongest critics so far of the report and Talabani said he backed a statement by the president of the Kurdish region who objected to recommendations on sharing the oil wealth, reinstating Saddam loyalists in their old government jobs and giving Iraq's neighbors a role in efforts to end the violence.

A statement by the governmental De-Baathification Commission also denounced the Baker-Hamilton report as "wrong and untrue" for its assertion that purging the government of Baathists robbed state institutions of professionals.

"If you read this report, one would think that it is written for a young, small colony that they are imposing these conditions on," Talabani said. "We are a sovereign country."

In one point of agreement, however, Talabani said Iraq already has initiated talks with Syria and Iran on gaining help in tackling the problems facing his country, and he plans to visit Damascus soon.

Syria, meanwhile, warned that the United States would face hatred and failure in the Mideast if the White House rejects the report's recommendations.

Syria's ruling party's Al-Baath newspaper urged Bush to take the Iraq Study Group's report seriously because it would "diminish hatred for the U.S. in region."

"But if it failed to pick up the positive signals either in the report or in the Syrian welcome of what the report has contained, it (the U.S.) would remain drowned in the quagmire and the situation in the region and the entire world would remain unstable," the newspaper said.


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Originally Posted by DayDream

ODD....I visit this site everyday, now I'm getting this...

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Translated version of http://www.iraqigovernment.org/

Very ODD!

Cheers!
DayDream

theyve embargoed the entire iraqigovernment, LMDAO!!!!

Originally Posted by Alphamystic

There goes the munny model.

repeat as necessary...

Originally Posted by DayDream

Boy you got alot more info than I did CP! Just wonder whats up with this? I checked the whois to see when they last updated and it was on Aug 8 '06 and the 64.233.179.104 home page doesn't even exist. After I looked at the name server (64.233.179.104 home page) I hit the back button (which should've brought me back to where I checked the domain name) and got this..

iraqigovernment.org
Domain (ex. internic.net)
Registrar (ex. ABC Registrar, Inc.)
Nameserver (ex. ns.example.com or 192.16.0.192)


Domain ID:D103823764-LROR
Domain Name:CBIRAQ.ORG
Created On:18-Jan-2004 14:34:27 UTC
Last Updated On:20-Oct-2006 19:51:23 UTC
Expiration Date:18-Jan-2010 14:34:27 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Go Daddy Software, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:GODA-05130817
Registrant Name:CBI CBI
Registrant Street1:Al-Rasheed St.
Registrant Street2:Baghdad-Iraq
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Baghdad
Registrant State/Province:Baghdad
Registrant Postal Code:00964
Registrant Country:IQ
Registrant Phone:+964.018165171
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:GODA-25130817
Admin Name:CBI CBI
Admin Street1:Al-Rasheed St.
Admin Street2:baghdad-Iraq
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Baghdad
Admin State/Province:Baghdad
Admin Postal Code:00964
Admin Country:IQ
Admin Phone:+964.8165171
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:GODA-15130817
Tech Name:CBI CBI
Tech Street1:Al-Rasheed St.
Tech Street2:baghdad-Iraq
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Baghdad
Tech State/Province:Baghdad
Tech Postal Code:00964
Tech Country:IQ
Tech Phone:+964.8165171
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:WSC1.JOMAX.NET
Name Server:WSC2.JOMAX.NET

I have NO IDEA why it put up the CBIraq.org website info because the previous page was this...

Domain ID:D104783085-LROR
Domain Name:IRAQIGOVERNMENT.ORG
Created On:20-Aug-2004 14:54:13 UTC
Last Updated On:08-Aug-2006 00:22:12 UTC
Expiration Date:20-Aug-2007 14:54:13 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Namesdirect Inc. (R92-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:DOT-1XU6K07HLZTE
Registrant Name:Akeel Wall
Registrant Organization:AMASoft Ltd
Registrant Street1:1 Brook lane business centre
Registrant Street2:Brook lane North, bentford
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:London
Registrant State/Province:Middix
Registrant Postal Code:TW8 0PP
Registrant Country:GB
Registrant Phone:+44.02085699721
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+44.02085682738
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:DOT-F8ZI90LNI631
Admin Name:Akeel Wall
Admin Organization:AMASoft Ltd
Admin Street1:1 Brook lane business centre
Admin Street2:Brook lane North, bentford
Admin Street3:
Admin City:London
Admin State/Province:Middix
Admin Postal Code:TW8 0PP
Admin Country:GB
Admin Phone:+44.02085699721
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:+44.02085682738
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:DOT-X4H78DLH2CQ4
Tech Name:Akeel Wall
Tech Organization:AMASoft Ltd
Tech Street1:1 Brook lane business centre
Tech Street2:Brook lane North, bentford
Tech Street3:
Tech City:London
Tech State/Province:Middix
Tech Postal Code:TW8 0PP
Tech Country:GB
Tech Phone:+44.02085699721
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+44.02085682738
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:NS0.ATASOFT.ORG
Name Server:NS1.ATASOFT.ORG

ODD....VERY ODD!! Because I DID NOT do a whois on the CBIraq.org site! Still scratching my head on this one!

Cheers!
DayDream

for some reason they cross reference then. the same owner???

Originally Posted by Wm.Knowles

One person asked me if I thought what was more important, the rise in the exchange rate or the removal of the dinar from the economy. Based on my understanding of quantity money theory, it is the removal of the dinar that will EVENTUALLY bring the largest gains to us as investors. How much they intend to take out, 1.5 or 2 Trillion, we will never know until after the fact. But they do have the currency reserves to make either move. If the last reports are correct and they have 14 Billion (not to mention GOLD), then they have the "punch" to reduce the money suppy to almost any level they want. But, this process can't go on forever. There are other factors influencing this process. In removing the currency, they are not allowing any dinar to in the economy, raising interest rates will have an effect on the money supply (although over a longer period of time), increasing GNP even by a couple of percentage points during this time will "absorb" dinar, increasing demand from the iraqi people and the tendency to save dinar that is increasing in value, and increasing oil money. All of these have a culminating effect to bring inflation under control and increase the value of the dinar. So, its all good for us. Let them take as much dinar out of the economy as possible, that is actually want we really want to see continue happening at this time. Thank You.

Absolutely correct. I worked in the fixed income arena for some time and what you could always count on was that any adjustments made to the interest rate would be felt approx. 6 months later in the market. This is a very positive note but if the CBI is interested in making progress in the very short term as stated in several articles then more factors than what is currently happening would have to be implemented.

It would seem to me as well as to many others on here that Shabibi is a student of Greenspan. The less is more theory on information to the public. What intrigues me is that there has been soo much mention in recent days in regards to the raising of the rate of the overnight borrowing rate and the rise in value of the dinar. If Shabibi is a true student of Greenspan (which I feel he is) then this is a stark contridiction to what he has been doing. How and why anyone would ever simply tell the world that you can expect to see a certain percentage increase in their value and when to expect it to happen is beyond me. With the massive speculation that this could cause many detrimental effects are possible.

At this point they simply have no other options than to bring their currency to the forex to allow that type of speculation.

As I mentioned earlier this week when the HCL is enacted they MUST have a currency that has real value. Otherwise with the dividends payed to the Iraqi people we are looking at a massive flood of currency into the market place and thereby significantly reducing the level of a revaluation (if there could even be one at that point).

This should be one of the most interesting weeks we have ever had the pleasure of being subjected to.

Cheers to all and keep those articles coming!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by shotgunsusie

for some reason they cross reference then. the same owner???

I don't believe they are the same owners...CBI's owner is registered in Baghdad and iraqgovernment's owner is in London. Cross reference? Thats the only reason I can see for it happening. As I said, I DID NOT type in the CBI site at all. I was TOTALLY surprised when that popped up! If they are connected in some way its interesting that the iraqgovernment.org site is NOW a FORBIDDEN site don't you think?

Cheers!
DayDream

Originally Posted by Cyberkhan

Absolutely correct. I worked in the fixed income arena for some time and what you could always count on was that any adjustments made to the interest rate would be felt approx. 6 months later in the market. This is a very positive note but if the CBI is interested in making progress in the very short term as stated in several articles then more factors than what is currently happening would have to be implemented.

It would seem to me as well as to many others on here that Shabibi is a student of Greenspan. The less is more theory on information to the public. What intrigues me is that there has been soo much mention in recent days in regards to the raising of the rate of the overnight borrowing rate and the rise in value of the dinar. If Shabibi is a true student of Greenspan (which I feel he is) then this is a stark contridiction to what he has been doing. How and why anyone would ever simply tell the world that you can expect to see a certain percentage increase in their value and when to expect it to happen is beyond me. With the massive speculation that this could cause many detrimental effects are possible.

At this point they simply have no other options than to bring their currency to the forex to allow that type of speculation.

As I mentioned earlier this week when the HCL is enacted they MUST have a currency that has real value. Otherwise with the dividends payed to the Iraqi people we are looking at a massive flood of currency into the market place and thereby significantly reducing the level of a revaluation (if there could even be one at that point).

This should be one of the most interesting weeks we have ever had the pleasure of being subjected to.

Cheers to all and keep those articles coming!!!!!!!!!

Thank you for your comments. I also have a background in the fixed income arena. And I understand you comments on the necessity of raising the value of the dinar prior to implementation of the HCL. I also agree that the CBI President is a student of Greenspan. Since much of Greenspan's professional life has been devoted to reducing the effects of the US Gov. printing money thru deficit spending, he is well versed in quanity money theory and the ways and means of intervening to reduce inflation. He may eventually recieve a Nobel Prize for Economics if he pulls this economic miracle off. And, he is apparently on his way to doing just this. Thank you.

Account for domain iraqgovernment.org has been suspended

That is my page on the site

Translated version of http://www.iraqigovernment.org/

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