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    Hi Everyone:

    SCOTIA BANK in Canada (Ontario) is selling dinar at $908.00 CDN ($789 USD) per million. We purchased 3.5 million with no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wm.Knowles View Post
    Yes I agree. Would it not be reasonale to think that they started removing the currency ( a couple of months before) in some amount prior to allowing the rate to adjust. See, this makes sense to be and establishes a pattern of a plan to intervene in the economy to reduce the base money supply. One that started before we as a group really noticed what was happening. Thank You.
    How would/should have this currency removal, starting months earlier, have affected inflation? Shouldn't they have seen some results?

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    BAGHDAD, Dec 11 (Reuters) - Iraq's government expects the dinar to strengthen by 13 percent against the dollar by early 2007 after raising interest rates to limit the use of dollars in the economy and stem inflation, the country's finance minister said.

    Minister Bayan Jabor told Reuters on Monday that the government has targeted an exchange rate to reach 1,260 dinars to the dollar in the first three months of 2007 from the current level of 1,500 to the dollar.

    The 2007 $41 billion budget assumes an exchange rate of 1,260 dinars to the dollar, he said, adding the cabinet would discuss the draft budget on Saturday before hopefully sending it to parliament next week.

    "There is an expected increase in the value of the dinar. The exchange rate is expected to drop from 1,500 dinars to the dollar to 1,260 in early 2007," he said in an interview.

    "We will calculate the budget based on 1,260 dinars to the dollar and based on 50 dollars per barrel (of oil) and production of 1.7 million barrels per day.

    "The central bank has started increasing the interest rate from 12 percent and it has now reached 16 percent."

    Jabor said there were no immediate plans to raise interest rates further. The central bank increased its main interest rate to 16 percent from 12 percent on Nov. 8, according to the bank's Web site.

    He said the aim of raising interest rates was to strengthen the dinar to fight dollarisation -- the use of dollars on a daily basis alongside the local dinar currency -- to stem high inflation and boost Iraqis' confidence in the domestic currency.

    "It is to fight dollarisation. Every economy that depends on the dollar is considered weak," he said.

    "Now I can say that Iraqis should use dinars instead of dollars. When we increase the value of the dinar it will help ease inflation, which is now at 56 percent. We expect inflation will decrease," he said.

    Iraq's inflation rate hit 76.6 percent in August.

    But sectarian violence is claiming the lives of more than 100 Iraqis a day and threatening to push the country into civil war. The daily violence has scared off foreign investments in the oil rich country.

    A recent UN report said there was growing unemployment and poverty rates in Iraq. Corruption is endemic and state owned industries are inefficient. Oil is the main source of revenues but oil sector is suffering from years of mismanagement and violence.

    "There is also a psychological factor -- Iraqis need to trust their currency when it is stable or strengthening."

    The International Monetary Fund, which has backed Baghdad with a $685 million standby credit agreement, has also warned that rising inflation could undermine economic well-being and hinder the goal of improving the welfare of ordinary Iraqis.

    Another problem facing the government is the high rate of unemployment, mainly among the young. Officials say the unemployment rate is between 30 and 40 percent.

    Jabor said he was not worried by possible negative consequences of strengthening the dinar because the Central Bank had enough reserves to support the dinar.

    "The dinar is strong -- the central bank is one of the best central banks in the region except for those in the Gulf. We have reserves of $15 billion in foreign currency other than gold, and it is only to support the dinar."

    http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/Cris...-R5-Alertnet-5
    Ok, so now we have had 2 articles stating that the value of the dinar will rise 10% and 13% respectively in the next few months. Does that blow away the high revalue we are all expecting? If they adhere to these statements, the chances of a high revalue are remote. I do hope they don't adhere to these guidelines. What's interesting though is that more and more statements on the supposed increase in value are being made frequently now. Surely these statements will only fuel speculators' interest in the dinar. Aren't they aware of the threat of speculators?

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    THIS IS FROM THE HORSES MOUTH.THIS SAYS IT ALL.

    IT WON`T REVAL THE WAY WE WANT. I AM TRULY SORRY ABOUT THIS




    Quote Originally Posted by Adster View Post
    BAGHDAD, Dec 11 (Reuters) - Iraq's government expects the dinar to strengthen by 13 percent against the dollar by early 2007 after raising interest rates to limit the use of dollars in the economy and stem inflation, the country's finance minister said.

    Minister Bayan Jabor told Reuters on Monday that the government has targeted an exchange rate to reach 1,260 dinars to the dollar in the first three months of 2007 from the current level of 1,500 to the dollar.

    The 2007 $41 billion budget assumes an exchange rate of 1,260 dinars to the dollar, he said, adding the cabinet would discuss the draft budget on Saturday before hopefully sending it to parliament next week.

    "There is an expected increase in the value of the dinar. The exchange rate is expected to drop from 1,500 dinars to the dollar to 1,260 in early 2007," he said in an interview.

    "We will calculate the budget based on 1,260 dinars to the dollar and based on 50 dollars per barrel (of oil) and production of 1.7 million barrels per day.

    "The central bank has started increasing the interest rate from 12 percent and it has now reached 16 percent."

    Jabor said there were no immediate plans to raise interest rates further. The central bank increased its main interest rate to 16 percent from 12 percent on Nov. 8, according to the bank's Web site.

    He said the aim of raising interest rates was to strengthen the dinar to fight dollarisation -- the use of dollars on a daily basis alongside the local dinar currency -- to stem high inflation and boost Iraqis' confidence in the domestic currency.

    "It is to fight dollarisation. Every economy that depends on the dollar is considered weak," he said.

    "Now I can say that Iraqis should use dinars instead of dollars. When we increase the value of the dinar it will help ease inflation, which is now at 56 percent. We expect inflation will decrease," he said.

    Iraq's inflation rate hit 76.6 percent in August.

    But sectarian violence is claiming the lives of more than 100 Iraqis a day and threatening to push the country into civil war. The daily violence has scared off foreign investments in the oil rich country.

    A recent UN report said there was growing unemployment and poverty rates in Iraq. Corruption is endemic and state owned industries are inefficient. Oil is the main source of revenues but oil sector is suffering from years of mismanagement and violence.

    "There is also a psychological factor -- Iraqis need to trust their currency when it is stable or strengthening."

    The International Monetary Fund, which has backed Baghdad with a $685 million standby credit agreement, has also warned that rising inflation could undermine economic well-being and hinder the goal of improving the welfare of ordinary Iraqis.

    Another problem facing the government is the high rate of unemployment, mainly among the young. Officials say the unemployment rate is between 30 and 40 percent.

    Jabor said he was not worried by possible negative consequences of strengthening the dinar because the Central Bank had enough reserves to support the dinar.

    "The dinar is strong -- the central bank is one of the best central banks in the region except for those in the Gulf. We have reserves of $15 billion in foreign currency other than gold, and it is only to support the dinar."

    http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/Cris...-R5-Alertnet-5

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    Thank you Mr. Knowles, Wciappetta, Worf, Day Dream, OSW I and II, for the last few pages of great information, research, and discussion.

    Thank you for all the work and thought you put into this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by postcon View Post
    Ok, so now we have had 2 articles stating that the value of the dinar will rise 10% and 13% respectively in the next few months. Does that blow away the high revalue we are all expecting? If they adhere to these statements, the chances of a high revalue are remote. I do hope they don't adhere to these guidelines. What's interesting though is that more and more statements on the supposed increase in value are being made frequently now. Surely these statements will only fuel speculators' interest in the dinar. Aren't they aware of the threat of speculators?
    You have a point. Just imagine if they said that the DINAR would rise 47,000% in the first quarter o 2007. HOw do you think the world would react to that??

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluezzguy View Post
    How would/should have this currency removal, starting months earlier, have affected inflation? Shouldn't they have seen some results?

    Randy

    That is one of the reasons I believe the rate is arbitrary. Chinger first made that observation and it seems credible to me. Otherwise the rate should have come up sooner and proportionately.
    It seems that the state insists, or preserve the value of the Iraqi dinar 148 against the dollar ...Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states [ MOF Sept 2006]

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    Quote Originally Posted by opps50 View Post
    THIS IS FROM THE HORSES MOUTH.THIS SAYS IT ALL.

    IT WON`T REVAL THE WAY WE WANT. I AM TRULY SORRY ABOUT THIS

    So, now we are looking at 2007 for a rv date??

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    Quote Originally Posted by opps50 View Post
    THIS IS FROM THE HORSES MOUTH.THIS SAYS IT ALL.

    IT WON`T REVAL THE WAY WE WANT. I AM TRULY SORRY ABOUT THIS

    Cue the 'smokescreen' theories. Can't wait to see how this get's spun into how there's going to be a high reval anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeway View Post
    You have a point. Just imagine if they said that the DINAR would rise 47,000% in the first quarter o 2007. HOw do you think the world would react to that??
    What I cannot understand is why someone in good standing and authority would make any reference to the future value of the dinar if they didn't have any contingency plans to thwart the threat of speculation. These people are intelligent and are strictly working by plan towards their goal. How could they not realise that these statements fuel speculators' interest? Beats me.

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