Thread: Iraq/Dinar News. 09/05 to 01/14/07

Anybody having trouble with this link to the Iraqi Economy Development Center. My link is on the blink.

http://www.iedc-iq.org/english/paper...=akbar&page=77

The reason that George W. Bush insists that "victory" is achievable in Iraq is not that he is deluded or isolated or ignorant or detached from reality or ill-advised. No, it's that his definition of "victory" is different from those bruited about in his own rhetoric and in the ever-earnest disquisitions of the chattering classes in print and online. For Bush, victory is indeed at hand. It could come at any moment now, could already have been achieved by the time you read this.


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Originally Posted by CharmedPiper

Anybody having trouble with this link to the Iraqi Economy Development Center. My link is on the blink.

http://www.iedc-iq.org/english/paper...=akbar&page=77

IT BEEN OFFLINE SINCE MONDAY WHEN I WENT THERE - REALLLLLY WEIRD BECAUSE IT ALWAYS HAD GOOD INFO ON

"""""""""WHAT IS GOING ON"""""""""""""

This is off the Iraq Presidency Site, they finally updated to todays date.


President Talabani : Iraqi constitution prohibits the participation of the Baath Party in power, and tolerance is essential between the Iraqis after the execution of Saddam

January 10, 2007
The President of the Republic, Jalal Talabani, that the Constitution prohibits the participation of the Iraqi Baath Party in power, and added in a joint press conference with American ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad, held today
Wednesday 1-10-2007, the city of Sulaymaniyah, "We respect the right of citizenship in dealing with the Baathists, where no one was detained because of political affiliation, but there is detained because of the crimes they have committed against the Iraqi people."
And the President Talabani to establish the principle of tolerance among the Iraqis after the implementation of the death penalty Saddam Hussein, and said, "I believe that tolerance is essential between the Iraqis and that the success of the national reconciliation is important at the present time, especially after the execution of Saddam Hussein", continued the President of the Republic, he said : "I hope the Arab brothers to benefit from the experience of reconciliation that took place in Iraqi Kurdistan, as it was good experience."
And on the relations between Iraq and neighboring countries, the president said : "I urge neighboring countries to respect the will of Iraqis, and help them to achieve security and stability, and overcome the conditions they are experiencing now." In the same context, the President of the Republic, that he intends to visit Syria, "to discuss and develop relations between the two neighboring countries, and demand for our brothers in Syria to help us fight terrorism, and prevent terrorists from infiltrating into Iraq."
President Talabani also said that "the new security plan is good, and is better than previous plans, has involved many parties, and I made proposals in this regard, and as Dr. Adel Abdel Mahdi, and we believe that the Prime Minister is determined to defeat the sectarian strife and religious happening in some areas of Iraq."
His Excellency also pointed out that "s forces would not participate in the new security plan, but the Kurds involved in the Iraqi army will participate Like their fellow Arabs, Turkmen and the rest of the communities, but if required for the nation's participation s request of the Prime Minister and participation, there is no reason not to be forces for the protection of Iraq."
President Talabani added, "I do not support the death penalty. This is tentative, I am a member of the Socialist International, which has claimed responsibility reject any sentence of death, "but stressed that" Iraqi law does not give the right of the President to change the death sentence, and there is a paragraph explicitly states, and I have not left any decision executions since assuming the office of the Presidency of the Republic "and added excellencies" I believe that the government should slow down death sentences other, and personally I do not informed of the implementation of the death penalty on those convicted of others. "
As President Talabani that "the Kurdish people have wanted to issue a ruling on the issue of Saddam's Anfal crime, and also passing judgment on the execution of the Baathists, was reportedly sentenced to death for his crimes against Shiite and Sunni and Kurds."
And in response to a question about the presence of journalists President Talabani in the city of Sulaymaniyah, said his Excellency, "I am here for many reasons, including the holiday feast, and then the epitome of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan party, and this requires the presence of the Secretary-General."

For his part, the American ambassador in Iraq, Zalmay Khalilzad, expressed his dissatisfaction for the execution of Saddam Hussein and implementation of the sentences, he said, "We are on the way, conditions and the time of implementation of the death penalty, and is the same concern expressed by the Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki during his meeting with the Arab channel."
And the American ambassador in a press conference the Iraqis to agree on the outstanding issues, including the application of Article 140 of the Constitution concerning the status of the city of Kirkuk, and said, in this regard, "I think that the success of Iraqi leaders chosen through the past, to confront the challenges facing them, a decision they take themselves, and reconciliation decisions taken by the Iraqis"
And the American ambassador continued : "I can not add anything on constitutional articles, it is a decision that the Iraqis must agree upon" and the American ambassador praised the efforts made by President Talabani to bring together all Iraqi political and the success of national reconciliation.
Zalmay Khalilzad also urged neighboring countries to provide assistance for the Iraqis to establish security and stability in Iraq, saying that "the United States of America encourage neighboring countries to help the Iraqis and overcome the circumstances that the country is going through."

Originally Posted by jsfletcher

The reason that George W. Bush insists that "victory" is achievable in Iraq is not that he is deluded or isolated or ignorant or detached from reality or ill-advised. No, it's that his definition of "victory" is different from those bruited about in his own rhetoric and in the ever-earnest disquisitions of the chattering classes in print and online. For Bush, victory is indeed at hand. It could come at any moment now, could already have been achieved by the time you read this.


New Oil Law Means Victory in Iraq for Bush | BaltimoreChronicle.com

AWESOME POST.....Let's hope tonight or tomorrow is cashin' in day! Again, great article!

This is also from the Iraq Presidency site


In a telephone conversation with President of the Republic, President of the United States of America to renew its commitment to support the democratic process in Iraq

January 10, 2007
New President of the United States of America, George W. Bush, his commitment and the commitment of his administration to support the democratic process in Iraq, and stressed that distinguished track record in economic and military capabilities needed to support the Iraqi government in order to provide security and stability and the success of the national reconciliation process and the political process in Iraq.
This came during a telephone conversation with President Jalal Talabani on Wednesday evening 1-10-2007, and to conduct consultations on the recent Washington's new strategy in Iraq and the exchange of views on developments in the Iraqi arena.
Conversely thanked the President of the Republic, President Bush for his continuing support for the new Iraq and the political process and help the Iraqis at all levels and stressed the strategic relations between the new Iraq and the United States. Saying : "We are your allies in the war against terrorism and to achieve democracy in the new Iraq, We will spare no effort in order to achieve tangible success in the coming period and Iraqi forces collection of moderate Shiites, Sunnis and Alkord including serves the supreme interests of Iraq."

Originally Posted by worf

I don't know where they are coming from with this article vs. the apparantly different news that seems to be pouring out this week. Is this an older article or can you explain the apprarent discrepency with the other articles that are flowing out this week? How do you see 1200 dinar = 1 usd by mid year significantly helping the Iraqis economic situation? Do you believe this to be the case vs. what everyone else is woootttting about?

worf

Either Hassan Al-Sunaid is not the brightest bulb in the box or its one of a series of misinformative statements we can expect to see as this thing goes forward. 1200:1 does nothing for the people of Iraq. Plus there are too many statements to the contrary. Just roll with the punches.....

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Originally Posted by worf
I don't know where they are coming from with this article vs. the apparantly different news that seems to be pouring out this week. Is this an older article or can you explain the apprarent discrepency with the other articles that are flowing out this week? How do you see 1200 dinar = 1 usd by mid year significantly helping the Iraqis economic situation? Do you believe this to be the case vs. what everyone else is woootttting about?

worf

Originally Posted by wciappetta

Either Hassan Al-Sunaid is not the brightest bulb in the box or its one of a series of misinformative statements we can expect to see as this thing goes forward. 1200:1 does nothing for the people of Iraq. Plus there are too many statements to the contrary. Just roll with the punches.....

Thanks for your comments.

Everytime we move forward, it seems we get knocked back again. I am beginning to wonder if anyone over there even knows what is going on or speaks the truth about anything!!!??? You can't have it both ways and yet that seems to be the Iraqi intent. One minute it appears as though they get it and are going to r/v to a decent level. The next minute it is as if logic has escaped them once again and they act as though the previous 20 positive news articles filled with their own words (quoted none the less) were never spoken and if they were they didn't really mean it!!!

They know they have to r/v so instead of doing what is right and doing a bold adjust to the "real rate" they fack around (with the program rate which isn't even the real rate) with a dribble up here and a dribble up there.

Sssshhheessshhhh!!! They already know what to do, they already know that the dribble up method doesn't work, they have the enitire world pushing them to move ahead plus they (most of the whole world) are backing them to the max!!! And what is the Iraqi response?? Dribble, dribble, dribble!!! They always seem to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory every time!!!

It reminds me of the account of the mad Roman emporer Nero playing the fiddle while all of Rome was burning. I wonder sometimes if these guys get it?! Their entire country is at stake, their 80% pay raise is at stake, their very lives are at stake 'cause if this thing fails they could be dead men and women courtesy of the insurgency plus their own people who are sick and tired of waiting seemingly forever.

Yet half of them don't show up to work, and the other half are involved in some sort of militia or death squad!!!


OK , going to get a paper bag and start breathing in it now. In out, in out, in out, there I feel better!!!! Thanks putting up with the rant. I hope SGS's rumor comes to pass this week!!! Can you tell I'm stressed??!! It's ok though I'll pull through just fine. I always do.

worf

Originally Posted by worf

Quote:
Originally Posted by worf
I don't know where they are coming from with this article vs. the apparantly different news that seems to be pouring out this week. Is this an older article or can you explain the apprarent discrepency with the other articles that are flowing out this week? How do you see 1200 dinar = 1 usd by mid year significantly helping the Iraqis economic situation? Do you believe this to be the case vs. what everyone else is woootttting about?

worf


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Thanks for your comments.

Everytime we move forward, it seems we get knocked back again. I am beginning to wonder if anyone over there even knows what is going on or speaks the truth about anything!!!??? You can't have it both ways and yet that seems to be the Iraqi intent. One minute it appears as though they get it and are going to r/v to a decent level. The next minute it is as if logic has escaped them once again and they act as though the previous 20 positive news articles filled with their own words (quoted none the less) were never spoken and if they were they didn't really mean it!!!

They know they have to r/v so instead of doing what is right and doing a bold adjust to the "real rate" they fack around (with the program rate which isn't even the real rate) with a dribble up here and a dribble up there.

Sssshhheessshhhh!!! They already know what to do, they already know that the dribble up method doesn't work, they have the enitire world pushing them to move ahead plus they (most of the whole world) are backing them to the max!!! And what is the Iraqi response?? Dribble, dribble, dribble!!! They always seem to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory every time!!!

It reminds me of the account of the mad Roman emporer Nero playing the fiddle while all of Rome was burning. I wonder sometimes if these guys get it?! Their entire country is at stake, their 80% pay raise is at stake, their very lives are at stake 'cause if this thing fails they could be dead men and women courtesy of the insurgency plus their own people who are sick and tired of waiting seemingly forever.

Yet half of them don't show up to work, and the other half are involved in some sort of militia or death squad!!!


OK , going to get a paper bag and start breathing in it now. In out, in out, in out, there I feel better!!!! Thanks putting up with the rant. I hope SGS's rumor comes to pass this week!!! Can you tell I'm stressed??!! It's ok though I'll pull through just fine. I always do.

worf

feel better now? LOL.......i think we all need a really nice vacation once we are done with this!

Minister of Finance : the lifting of subsidy on fuels requirement International Monetary Fund to write off debt

بغداد- متابعة المواطنBaghdad-up to the citizen



He said the Finance Minister Baqer Jabr Al-Zubaydi said : "It will provide a supplementary budget in the middle of the current year, through which up to the ministries and governorates that have been made, it did not purchasing." He added : "that the House could then withdraw financial allocations from the ministries and provinces that have not completed most of the projects implemented by the claim and allocated to other projects." The Zubaidi during the meeting of the Council of Deputies on Tuesday : "The previous budgets had been disbursed for the month of April of each year, but we want the parliament should allow us regardless amounts for the current month to speed up the implementation of projects." He continued : "As has been the development of mechanisms by the Ministry of Planning, to facilitate the signing of contracts and approval for the purpose of speed in completing projects." And on the lifting of subsidy on oil derivatives-Zubaidi : "There is an agreement with the International Monetary Fund for the deletion of 80% of Iraq's debt in return for the reforms in the economy of Iraq, including the lifting of support." He reported : "The opposition to any proposals with the International Monetary Fund would cause considerable economic damage to Iraq, so we strike a balance between the interest of the country and the Fund's proposals to reform the economy." He pointed to Zubaidi : "The 2007 budget has been allocated large amounts of money to the Ministry of Oil to set up refineries for the production of oil derivatives." And on the financial compensation owed Iraq, Zubaidi said : "It is a distinction must be made between debt and compensation, and that Iraq has been able to write so years 80% of the debt, either compensation, after 2003, we found that Iraq had paid all compensation approved by the Security Council, except the State of Kuwait which is still being urged to pay awards." Zubaidi stressed : "It is for the first time that the adoption of a clear economic policy tend to invest in Iraq and the Iraqi dinar will be made in the budget for 2007

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