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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    That's Lovely dear but, most don't want opinion or book smart (although I Love BOOKS!)..I am more inclined to also read between the lines of these new's posts...factual or not..You must Especially think that from a forum that has a light and easy attitude must you think that you are the one to open the eyes of the already divine right.
    But that's the point, Economics is a science, with testable hypothosis and such. Currency valuation is a calulble sum, it's just a mats problem. The aggregate M (the sum of M1, M2 and M3) must, in a static ste equal the outputs plus any deficit spending. You CAN increase the supply of M^A by deficit spending, but that is of course inflationary and MUSt LEAD TO A LOWER VALUATION OF THE CURRENCY. Any flucuation from this fomula can only be achieved politically and cannot be maintained long term without the inflation (see Weimer Germany) Any increase in the money supply must be backed by increases in GDP and any more increase above that is deficit spending, which the good Doctor Keynes says is okay if used to stimulate activity, but there is not any appreciable activity that is going to happen in Iraq until the civil situation is controlled and the Iraqis can defend their borders, at the very least. That's when I would expect it to double in value if it's going to. As far as going 1:1 wioth the US$, Japan and Germany did not get to that point this year, well, Germany, being in Euros now did, but that's another dicussion altogether.
    This is simply not going to happen, it would be chaos in the streets, hell, it might mean chaos in the City of London and Wall Street. Has it ever at all occurred to you that the big wall street houses that trade currency would be hoarding it right now if it was set to go up 15,000 basis points? I've seen guys nearly tossed out windows for mistakes of 10 BP, some of them presumedly saved on the basis that from only 20 stories, it wasn't high enough for their purposes. Economies seek equalibium just as water seeks the lowest point, a "REAL" oppertunity like this will neer get a big street level attedence, just because before it happens the brokers will have bought up all the availible supply.

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    Member99,
    Why must you?
    I read what you posted but,
    Please my friend, do not only place this,
    as your only drive in life.
    We are well of the risks (and Great Possible gains)
    But I ask that you stop bringing up economic
    Ideals and Opinions that only belong to your own person.
    We may, as you know, as all should, take what we need
    and leave the rest. When we read these opinion of yours,
    we cannot all agree. Now, you are in your right to
    think what you will. but for the most of us we will sit idylly
    and wait for confirmation. Not someones naysay, or otherwise.
    To Each their own.
    Please, leave this thread now, unless you intend to make disrupt in our audience.
    Thanks Member99.

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    Quote Originally Posted by member99 View Post
    But that's the point, Economics is a science, with testable hypothosis and such. Currency valuation is a calulble sum, it's just a mats problem. The aggregate M (the sum of M1, M2 and M3) must, in a static ste equal the outputs plus any deficit spending. You CAN increase the supply of M^A by deficit spending, but that is of course inflationary and MUSt LEAD TO A LOWER VALUATION OF THE CURRENCY. Any flucuation from this fomula can only be achieved politically and cannot be maintained long term without the inflation (see Weimer Germany) Any increase in the money supply must be backed by increases in GDP and any more increase above that is deficit spending, which the good Doctor Keynes says is okay if used to stimulate activity, but there is not any appreciable activity that is going to happen in Iraq until the civil situation is controlled and the Iraqis can defend their borders, at the very least. That's when I would expect it to double in value if it's going to. As far as going 1:1 wioth the US$, Japan and Germany did not get to that point this year, well, Germany, being in Euros now did, but that's another dicussion altogether.
    This is simply not going to happen, it would be chaos in the streets, hell, it might mean chaos in the City of London and Wall Street. Has it ever at all occurred to you that the big wall street houses that trade currency would be hoarding it right now if it was set to go up 15,000 basis points? I've seen guys nearly tossed out windows for mistakes of 10 BP, some of them presumedly saved on the basis that from only 20 stories, it wasn't high enough for their purposes. Economies seek equalibium just as water seeks the lowest point, a "REAL" oppertunity like this will neer get a big street level attedence, just because before it happens the brokers will have bought up all the availible supply.
    JULY STILL AINT NO LIE!!!

    franny, were almost there!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunsusie View Post
    Thank You Susie. I feel the same.

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    Time for a "Party Favor" lol...
    Ahhh,haa,haa,ha!...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by member99 View Post
    Nope, I rechecked it, it was 33.1 IRD/1US$, and that was before we bombed the country back to the 16th century.

    Go Air Force!!!
    hmm, funny that the bank of baghdad has had the amount .33IQD/1USD on their site around sept. oct. 2005 in a document stating thats what the real price of the dinar was.

    thats $3+ btw which coincidentally is what was on the original post of yours that started this exchange.
    JULY STILL AINT NO LIE!!!

    franny, were almost there!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by member99 View Post
    Actually, if you look, I didn't bring it up or mention it until someone flat asked me "what qualification do you have to....." and I said, rather non chlantly that I happen to have read economics, and at one of the finest schools in the world for it, even if I think they were all leftists, they still teach montarism and Keynesian theory pretty well. Of course the think more highly if Mr Keynes that I do, but you don't have to agree with someones theory to be intriuged by it. I mean Y=C-S is a pretty basic statement, and I assure you it is true IN ALL SITUATIONS, but how to influence C and S is something ti takes years of work to do right, and it never is done right because it's not politically feasible to do it right. Mao, Stalin, and GW Bush have all learnt this the hard way.
    im perplexed at why you would have misspelled such a simple word in your original gripe at me with your many academic achievements. have a blonde moment did you?
    JULY STILL AINT NO LIE!!!

    franny, were almost there!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunsusie View Post
    hmm, funny that the bank of baghdad has had the amount .33IQD/1USD on their site around sept. oct. 2005 in a document stating thats what the real price of the dinar was.

    thats $3+ btw which coincidentally is what was on the original post of yours that started this exchange.
    Seem to remember that.
    Not at all phased at these comment's
    By Member99.
    Also is "member 99" what I THINK?.........
    Not that 'ol show is it?
    lol.......

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    Ok, guys and gals!

    Please take this to another forum or in PMs, leave it and move on!!
    Otherwise i will have to start deleting posts,

    If you have something unfinished, take it "outside"

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    Hey ordinaryseawoman I was only kidding. Of course you can join the dinar girls - will wop those fellas. They are just trying to be macho. And don't let Raddie scare you. He really is a softie. Franny is our grand leader and I am sure she will be here soon to welcome you.

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