Thread: Go crazy in here!!!

Originally Posted by Linus/intense

Hello..

Sorry I am a lurker.. and a recent dissatisfied person from the IIF(after the SGS slaughter game... it was very rude what they did)... Baker was on the radio in DC today... and was talking about the division...
APPARENTLY...
He is a part of a group of ten, 5 republicans / 5 democrats called the offcial iraq Study Group... that is reporting to congress, et al. Funny... the group report is 100% complete, with a "suggestion" about a single nation with sovereign territories as a good thing... but the actual report will not be released until .. you guessed it... after the November elections... sheeesh...

Former Secretary Baker on WTOP news in washington DC, I think they have transcripts available on thier website...

Please Reval.... I need the vacation... and start my career as a professional philanthropist...


Linus

Welcome aboard...I am an IIF outcast also...you will find the cream of the crop here. Stick around you're about to party with the "IN" crowd!!! No bashing here.

I was an IIF member for about a month...posted three times and then I was booted with no explanation. E-mailed them several times with no response and I NEVER posted anything negative or derogatory. THIS IS THE PLACE TO BE!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by doublescorpio

I was an IIF member for about a month...posted three times and then I was booted with no explanation. E-mailed them several times with no response and I NEVER posted anything negative or derogatory. THIS IS THE PLACE TO BE!!!!!!!!!

Many of us have had the same experience.

I got booted because they did not like my introduction post !

I never got a chance to make a second post.

Originally Posted by jsfletcher

That is one of the easiest explanations of something I have ever heard. I am ignorant when it comes to that stuff, but I understood that completely. If those example translate similar to real life in the ISX, wouldn't that squash peoples theory of the FIL having "clauses" to prevent this. I mean what is the point of saying "hey world, invest in our country!....BUT you can only buy 10 shares of stock." That wouldn't even be worth it.


Thank you for a great explanation

with all of the others doing alot of digging to find information, i was happy to contribute something, albeit small. glad you found it helpful.

about your point above, there will be restrictions in everything, not quite as bad as the example you have. even in the US and the NYSE, there are restrictions or at least guidelines that have to be followed. its been awhile, but i believe that if an individual reaches a point that they own XX% of a company on the exchange it has to be reported to either the SEC or the FTC for review, and i believe it is still considered a conflict of interest if a person owns a certain percentage of 2 different but competing companies which used to cause the owner of the stock to sell off shares of one of the companies. i think that is what you will likely see. i think the more severe restrictions are going to be placed on property transactions to keep foreigners from literally "buying up" Iraq. They don't want to do anything to dissuade people or companies from investing in companies, natural resources, or oil derivatives (that they desparately need), which is the point you are making, but they will take steps to ensure it is still "Iraq" when the dollars, yen, yuan, and euro start to pour in.

Originally Posted by shotgunsusie

what i want to know is this, how could they have on a broadcast scrolling text that said the grants were given out already when they said they would distribute the grands WITH the ration cards and they are still having trouble getting the cards out in a timely manner??

ladies and gentlemen, step right up to the misinformation booth and grab yourself a tidbit or two...

LOL Can't take all this news literally....look at what our press does with it's misinformation and biased reporting. That's why we just have to sit back, take a deep breath, sift and sort until the truth comes out. There is so much more going on than we will ever know and remember....the more confused they keep everyone the more they can get their agenda's done. They can't broadcast the where, when, and how....planned attacks would be prepared. This is IRAQ (LOL) They are not held to journalistic standards as far as I am aware. No one knows nothing until the CBI and Forex show it...IMHO Sure is frustrating though

Thank you!!!
I like this explanation - and I think I even "got it" this time!

And I guess it also matters that they can't just put the price of the shares higher either, because then "none" of their own would be able to buy any...
And you are right; I WAS thinking of physical structures...not used to thinking about stocks etc! And even if I were, I still wouldn't have understood it on my own...
Thanks again!
/Karin

Originally Posted by risktaker

hey karin,

i didn't see where anyone really answered your question, so i will give it a try.

i think where the misunderstanding is coming from is that you are focusing on "real property" or physical structures. those things are just like a house in whatever country or city you live in and would more than likely change as the value of the dinar changed, but there selling prices are set by the market they are in.

try and get away from that for a minute and think about it in stock market terms. no matter what exchange they are traded on, if it is a public company, anyone that has the funds can buy whatever number of shares they desire that are available. since this is all about the dinar, take an example of XYZ beer inc that is trading on the ISX. if the current share price of XYZ is 6IQD per share and there are 1 million shares available, then factor in that the current exchange rate is 1472 dinar per USD, then i could buy 245 shares of XYZ for 1USD, carried out further i could buy 1 million shares of XYZ beer for a little more than 4000.00 US.

right now i think there are less that 100 companies traded on the ISX, and i don't think very many trade as high as 6IQD/share. so just imagine that i am worth $20million, and i keep up with whats going on in world investments and finance and i decide i want to diversify myself into emerging markets (which US investment firms are already doing) and i get some info on the ISX, and decide to put %5 of my net worth into the market in Iraq. for that $1milion i could own 1 million shares of the ALL of the companies on the ISX at the price of 6 IQD/share (if they all traded that high). if the share price is lower or there are fewer traded companies, i could own ALOT more than that for that same $1million. now think of that same example, but on the scale of Gates, or Trumph, or General Motors or Barclays, etc and you can see how fast someone could own large percentages of MANY companies at the current exchange rate.

now look at the same example, but if 6IQD was equal to 6USD, then it completely changes the landscape, instead of me being able to buy 245 shares in XYZ for $1.00, it would cost me $6.00 just to get one share.

i hope this helps, i know you were struggling with the "how" someone could buy up Iraq, and this is the best i could explain it. also at the current exchange rate, it would probably be cheaper to buy the company that owns the plant, than to buy the plant itself.

i was going to pm this to you, but it is turned off again.

White House says Iraq policy constantly adjusted
Mon Oct 9, 2006 4:58 PM ET

http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...politicsNews-3

By Tabassum Zakaria

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House on Monday said U.S. policy on Iraq was constantly being adjusted after two senior Republicans offered assessments that differed from President George W. Bush.

James Baker, a former secretary of state with close ties to the Bush family and co-chair of an independent, bipartisan panel reviewing Iraq policy, said on Sunday there were alternatives other than "stay-the-course and cut-and-run."

That comment on ABC's "This Week" followed Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner of Virginia last week saying after a trip to Iraq that the situation there was "drifting sideways."

White House spokesman Tony Snow, asked about Baker's comments, said Iraq policy was continuously reviewed and adjusted to fit changing circumstances.

"As a matter of fact we are constantly looking, adjusting, in terms of figuring out the best way to provide a situation where the Iraqis are able to stand on their own," Snow told reporters without giving examples of administration moves.

"It is simply not the fact that you've got a lined-up policy that simply runs and never changes," he said. "Every aspect is under constant review. There are tactical and strategic changes that are adjustments that are made all the time."

Bush repeatedly has said U.S. forces must stay in Iraq until the country can take over security operations.

At fund-raisers for Republicans ahead of next month's congressional elections, Bush has accused Democrats of wanting to leave prematurely from Iraq, which he calls the central front in the war against terrorism.
Baker's panel is expected to make recommendations on Iraq after the November 7 vote, in which Republican control of the U.S. Congress is at stake.

Joseph Biden of Delaware, an influential Senate Democrat and possible 2008 presidential contender, said Baker's group represented "the political way out for the administration to change policy" after the elections.

He told reporters on Friday that "at least a dozen Republican senators" had privately expressed dissatisfaction with the conduct of the Iraq war.

"So it (the Baker report) may very well be the vehicle by which you may have the Warners of the Republican Party and the Bidens of the Democratic Party being able to rally around to try to save this country from this debacle," Biden said.

The Iraq Study Group of five Republicans and five Democrats was set up in March to develop an unbiased evaluation of the situation there and to help advise legislators and the Bush administration.

Commission members interviewed a wide range of top U.S. experts and officials, and have traveled to Iraq to interview Iraqi officials.

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Originally Posted by ccgideon

Okay folks...you will never guess what I received in my email today! Can't guess ? Well, I received a money Angel . The message said that if I sent it to six friends, that I would receive a lot of money with in four...yes FOUR days . I can tell you that little message got forwarded on so fast my internet almost crashed! I figured if the horoscopes and the fortune cookies meant something, then so does my money angel . Yes, yes, yes...come one R/V and make my little angel true to her word!

LOL - well usually I hate this kind of chain letters that you have to foward to x friends, especially if they threaten you with something bad in case you don't act accordingly.

But I am ready to make an exception here.... this one matches the current situation just perfectly!!! So you say 4 days.... hmmm, that would make it the 13th. My husband's birthday!!! :-)

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