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    Quote Originally Posted by BM
    Hassle,

    Ever heard the saying 'Closing the stable door after the horse has bolted', there are a lot of legal issues for lawyers to go through in connection with the investigation. Waiting until charged (if charged) and appearing in court before engaging a lawyer is bit late in the day.

    Bryan

    BM;
    Thanks for posting updates and your input and please know that most of us are behind you 150%.... but we do have a few questions that still need answered. Also please know that just because we have questions, doesnt mean we are trolls like a LOT of people like to say. It only means we are human with a mind of our own. Surely you understand that. Also, most of us are not in a situation where we could donate if we wanted to. Times are really hard on EVERYBODY.


    OK....."IF charged" as you put it.......charged with what? We are pretty much being kept in the dark here. So can you please elaborate just a bit? WHAT would you be charged with IF you were charged with something? I mean PIPS is 100% legitimate correct? So there should be no worries of being charged with anything. I honestly think more people would be a little more willing to donate if we had a clue "why". (and not just for "PIPS defense fund....really why?) And honestly, what kind of attorney wouldnt take a case like this on a "no win no pay" basis? We are talking about handling a case for a BILLION DOLLAR corporation that is a household name ALL OVER THE WORLD BY NOW right? There surely would be a HANDSOME fee for them awaiting the ending of this hearing/trial if they were to win, not to mention the notoriaty, good lord, this is a career case for ANY attorney/law firm. Wouldnt you agree?
    So I cant see why they would need to be paid upfront, unless of course they know they cant win......then I can see why they would want paid upfront. But having said that, if they already know in their hearts that they cant win.......then we need somebody else.....dont you agree?

    These are just my thoughts and I am no troll. I am a 150% PIPS supporter who just has some questions........like many others.

    This will probably get deleted soon, so I hope you get a chance to see it before it does.

    Thank you again;
    Style

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiiger
    Dont ask !! Just do it !!

    We are sitting in the same boat !!

    Tiiger

    Maybe you would like to give us the money to "just do it" with? Maybe you would like to donate a little money for each of us that cant afford to do so since you are so eager to "just do it"?

    Just donate my share under the name of Style, that will be fine with me...thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Style
    Maybe you would like to give us the money to "just do it" with? Maybe you would like to donate a little money for each of us that cant afford to do so since you are so eager to "just do it"?

    Just donate my share under the name of Style, that will be fine with me...thank you.
    Okay. You have made it clear that you can't afford to donate. That is okay. But why do you have so many more questions than those of us that are donating? We are just doing it. We are doing it in our own names. I have donated and will donate again this month. I will donate every month for as long as needed.

    Why only a little each month instead of a larger lump sum? Because I live on a very limited budget. I am retired and get a check once a month. I am reserving a small amount each month for Bryan's LEGAL fund. I think that LEGAL Fund is the best definition. Defense Fund might have been a poor choice of words. Wer all speak different languages and splitting hairs on a word is a bit much.

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    Bumping past the aggression. Legal representation is a GOOD thing in any kind of legal battle!

    Quote Originally Posted by support4PIPS
    Originally Posted by support4PIPS
    Hello again everyone.

    I want to update you all on the progress of the fundraiser.

    We have had some very kind and generous people contact us and give what they can which is wonderful and greatly appreciated.

    Howeve we are far from raising enough!

    Much more is needed to assist with the defense fund. Obviously, we all understand how expensive legal representation is.

    I cannot stress enough the importance of this fundraiser! I am calling for you all to please give what you can as soon as you can!

    Here are the details again ....


    THIS COLLECTION HAS BEEN NAMED... THE BM/PIPS DEFENSE FUNDRAISER.

    No donation is too large or too small.

    This fundraiser will continue indefinitely, or until we announce otherwise.

    I sincerely urge you all to give what you can. I am sure you can all understand how important this situation is.

    All that is required of you is to SEND AN EMAIL TO ...

    [email protected](gmail not qmail)
    Please specify what method you would like to use to make your donation

    We now have serveral options available!

    You will receive an email with instructions within 24 hours.

    This is a very tangible way to support PIPS. Lets get to it!

    As always our goal remains ....

    support4PIPS
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    Motto for PIPS Convention 2006
    I survived PIPS 2005
    PIPS made me rich in 2006

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    I dont think one person on here has said that legal representation is a "bad" thing have they? But one has to wonder how much confidence this "legal representation"has in themselves if they wont work on a "no win no pay" basis on such an overwhelmingly HUGE case. If they show no confidence in themselves, WOW thats bad.
    Just my opinion of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Style
    I dont think one person on here has said that legal representation is a "bad" thing have they? But one has to wonder how much confidence this "legal representation"has in themselves if they wont work on a "no win no pay" basis on such an overwhelmingly HUGE case. If they show no confidence in themselves, WOW thats bad.
    Just my opinion of course.
    Since all of my posts are being deleted, I will not comment on your post other than by saying, "Ditto."

    It is not as you think it is Champ. Threads will all members post have been moved to our team folder you can not view. We have not deleted anything from you besides moving the threads.

    We have no asked for members feedback on rolclub rules. You are welcome to come with your thoughts on how we should change the rules. Link:http://www.rolclub.com/showthread.php?t=2929
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    Quote Originally Posted by Style
    I dont think one person on here has said that legal representation is a "bad" thing have they? But one has to wonder how much confidence this "legal representation"has in themselves if they wont work on a "no win no pay" basis on such an overwhelmingly HUGE case. If they show no confidence in themselves, WOW thats bad.
    Just my opinion of course.
    You are asssuming that exists in Malaysia. I can tell you that it does NOT exist in my country of residence. While it is the basis of attorney business in the US, not everything works the same as it does in the US, although most Americans would assume it does.

    If you want an attorney here, you pay. No matter what the case and probable outcome. Contingency does not exist.
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    Sorry mezzy.


    Originally Posted by support4PIPS
    Hello again everyone.

    I want to update you all on the progress of the fundraiser.

    We have had some very kind and generous people contact us and give what they can which is wonderful and greatly appreciated.

    Howeve we are far from raising enough!

    Much more is needed to assist with the defense fund. Obviously, we all understand how expensive legal representation is.

    I cannot stress enough the importance of this fundraiser! I am calling for you all to please give what you can as soon as you can!

    Here are the details again ....


    THIS COLLECTION HAS BEEN NAMED... THE BM/PIPS DEFENSE FUNDRAISER.

    No donation is too large or too small.

    This fundraiser will continue indefinitely, or until we announce otherwise.

    I sincerely urge you all to give what you can. I am sure you can all understand how important this situation is.

    All that is required of you is to SEND AN EMAIL TO ...

    [email protected]
    Please specify what method you would like to use to make your donation

    We now have serveral options available!

    You will receive an email with instructions within 24 hours.

    This is a very tangible way to support PIPS. Lets get to it!

    As always our goal remains ....

    support4PIPS
    ==============================
    Motto for PIPS Convention 2006
    I survived PIPS 2005
    PIPS made me rich in 2006

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    Suzanna wrote:
    You are asssuming that exists in Malaysia. I can tell you that it does NOT exist in my country of residence. While it is the basis of attorney business in the US, not everything works the same as it does in the US, although most Americans would assume it does.
    I have to agree with Suzanna, things are different in every country. In my country one has to afford several payments in advance as things develops. Besides, I think a very specialized lawyer is needed in this case, with knowledge in international trades, administration, etc. Sometimes, the cost of this is a percentage of the amount involved...
    We don't know how things are managed in Malaysia. Would be great if anybody with knowledge could tell us.

    Best Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by suzanna
    You are asssuming that exists in Malaysia. I can tell you that it does NOT exist in my country of residence. While it is the basis of attorney business in the US, not everything works the same as it does in the US, although most Americans would assume it does.

    If you want an attorney here, you pay. No matter what the case and probable outcome. Contingency does not exist.
    You just hit on one of the biggest problems. Most Americans assume that things in other countries work the same as they do in America. They have a hard time understanding that the laws, rules and regulations, and procedures vary from country to country. People have to keep in mind that every country has its own laws and regulations.
    Wally

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