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Originally Posted by dtison

Originally Posted by truepipster

dtison, this thread is about support not *****ing, if you want to ***** go over to TG.
This has nothing to do with what we are owed and what we want out of our accounts.
Of course we want to get paid. This is not the point here.The point is no matter what the situation, a person does not deserve the slander that is happening on other posts. If BM turns out to be a scammer and all rumors are true, he will be dealt with , the universe will see to that.
If that is what you want to talk about do it somewhere else and not here.
That is in other threads.
Let's stick to the subject and take the higher road.
If you can't do that , as I said , please go post elsewhere.
Thanks

I'm not *****ing, this isn't much of a forum.. I hope pips and Bryan succeed But, your. "higher road ' seems to allow statements of unknown truthfullness as long as they are," postive" ,and you actually even are promoting someone (Bryan) who has not been held to account for hundreds of millions of dollars to thousands of people...
Promoting blindly without any substance at all someone and something that, "may" be hurting many 10's of thousands of people is disgusting. completely inscentive to those that are hurting.... people have written about commiting sucide, dreams dashed, losing their homes.... and you have people here saying nice nice instead of holding Bryan to account

The man is in default by hundreds of millions of dollars .....
.hold him to account and let the chips fall way they may....that's all...that's it.... don't torture good , honest trusting people with this rah rah dribblee at a time of crisis

Seems he got in nr. 7 before I pacified him :lol:

Originally Posted by seahawk

Excellent point Dtison.I couldn't agree more. :!: :!:

And one of his followers agreed. Not surpriced............

Originally Posted by joesom

Originally Posted by truepipster

dtison, this thread is about support not *****ing, if you want to ***** go over to TG.
This has nothing to do with what we are owed and what we want out of our accounts.
Of course we want to get paid. This is not the point here.The point is no matter what the situation, a person does not deserve the slander that is happening on other posts. If BM turns out to be a scammer and all rumors are true, he will be dealt with , the universe will see to that.
If that is what you want to talk about do it somewhere else and not here.
That is in other threads.
Let's stick to the subject and take the higher road.
If you can't do that , as I said , please go post elsewhere.
Thanks

I'm not *****ing, this isn't much of a forum.. I hope pips and Bryan succeed But, your. "higher road ' seems to allow statements of unknown truthfullness as long as they are," postive" ,and you actually even are promoting someone (Bryan) who has not been held to account for hundreds of millions of dollars to thousands of people...
Promoting blindly without any substance at all someone and something that, "may" be hurting many 10's of thousands of people is disgusting. completely inscentive to those that are hurting.... people have written about commiting sucide, dreams dashed, losing their homes.... and you have people here saying nice nice instead of holding Bryan to account

The man is in default by hundreds of millions of dollars .....
.hold him to account and let the chips fall way they may....that's all...that's it.... don't torture good , honest trusting people with this rah rah dribblee at a time of crisis

I deleted this............

Originally Posted by oldfriend

Hi,

There is an update of BM in the Pips Forum.

:o

I deleted this. Old news.

Originally Posted by severin

NÃ¥ har jeg lest den selv. Her er mailen. Stygg lesning :

>>Subject: Mail ifra Warren vedrørende P-Systems!
>>Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:14:04 +0200
>>
>>From Warren Webb:
>>
>>
>> Subject: P-Systems info for you...
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>>
>>
>> It is with a heavy heart, that I have to announce that I have resigned
>>from P-Systems yesterday, effective
>>
>> immediately.
>>
>>As many of you know, Gary Nichol, the General Manager has also resigned
>>and will be
>>
>>leaving tomorrow (Saturday).
>>
>>
>>
>>As all of you are aware I have been a staunch supporter and have always
>>advocated and encouraged
>>
>>support for the Program and for BM.
>>
>>I have now concluded that my faith in BM and Sharon Marsden, has been
>>misplaced.
>>
>>
>>
>>I have been at pains, wanting to report regular updates to you as I know
>>that many of you have been
>>
>>waiting very patiently to hear from me and I also know that many of you
>>took great heart (as I did) by
>>
>>my appointment to the Trust Manager's position.
>>
>>Unfortunately, for the last 2 months, I have been unable to find anything
>>good to report.
>>
>>
>>
>>During my short time with P-Systems, I have encountered a fundamental
>>difference of opinion with the decisions
>>
>>taken by BM and Sharon.
>>
>>The direction they have taken the program is a one way road to disaster.
>>
>>The management decisions nothing short of mystifying and dumbfounding.
>>
>>
>>
>>During my stay at P-Systems, I have continuously pushed for one thing.. that
>>the business of P-Systems is to pay
>>
>>returns to members and that there is no higher priority or indeed should
>>be no OTHER priority than that.
>>
>>My urgings have fallen on deaf ears, as indeed has most of the advice and
>>counsel that I have attempted to give BM and Sharon.
>>
>>
>>
>>At the present time, there are two payment platforms available to pay
>>money to members, but these are not
>>
>>being funded. Instead, whatever money is available is being poured into
>>the financial dinosaur called P-Systems Fashions, which seems to enjoy a
>>virtually
>>
>>unlimited budget to fund its financially burdensome projects.
>>
>>P-Systems Fashions was ill conceived in the beginning and needs to be killed
>>off as quickly as possible.
>>
>>It is an unmitigated disaster and one can only wonder what might have been

>>if that money had been invested wisely into programs that we all
>>
>>believed were in place. Money has also been poured into the purchase of
>>more derelict vacant real estate in the commercial Ghost town called
>>Nilai.
>>
>>BM and Sharon are spending freely on the construction of new
>>restaurants (3 of them) with plans for at least three more to commence in
>>the
>>
>>immediate future and many others after that, all of which will become
>>further liabilities as even the Bistro continues to be.
>>
>>I understand that they have purchased approximately 15 commercial
>>property lots and 3 houses and that the plans are to continue to acquire
>>more of this same real estate.
>>
>>While this is going on members continue to wait, perplexed, angry and
>>frustrated as I am, why they are being passed over, while Sharon and BM

>>continue to amass a personal fortune.
>>
>>
>>
>>This money should have been placed in investments for the benefit of
>>members. The real estate should be sold immediately.
>>
>>All restaurants and businesses closed down.
>>
>>They are all liabilities and draining available funds.
>>
>>Efforts should be concentrated on the Bistro and getting the franchising
>>operations completed.
>>
>>One thing at a time please BM or at least get one business in profit
>>before embarking on
>>
>> more of the same.
>>
>>(Did I mention someone should kill P-Systems Fashions.
>>
>>That and the obsession with new restaurants has become the scourge of the
>>program).
>>
>>Million of dollars has been diverted from what could have been very
>>valuable investments for members as
>>
>>was wanted by Gary. Let's get back to investing funds for members and
>>paying returns, whatever they are.
>>
>>
>>
>>When pressed for any answers, BM simply says that these restaurants are

>>a 'different part of P-Systems', which I take to mean, has nothing to do with
>>members.
>>
>>
>>
>>I have become increasingly concerned at what I regard to be Bizarre
>>decisions being taken by both BM and Sharon and their seemingly total
>>disregard for members suffering and anxiety.
>>
>>Sharon is an integral part of the company.
>>
>>She is not in the background as many think.
>>
>>She is a very active director and officer of P-Systems group of companies with
>>
>>daily involvement and she exerts great influence and forceful viewpoints
>>on the operation and direction of the program.
>>
>>I could not condone my misgivings any longer and after expressing my views

>>forthrightly to BM, I left the offices of P-Systems yesterday morning.
>>
>>
>>
>>It is my belief that the program is suffering fatal problems from which it

>>cannot recover. I cannot find any evidence of any viable or relevant
>>business or investment strategy that would have any prospect of
>>
>>returning anything of significance to members; far less 2%. There is no
>>transparency, everything is hidden even from Gary and there is no evidence

>>of the most basic accounting procedures or corporate
>>
>>procedures. BM's 'Genie in the bottle' is dead, not that it ever
>>existed. There is also no evidence of any investments in the last 18
>>months that have been in place that would be of any benefit to
>>
>>members, with the possible exception of P-Systems Premiere, which is still some

>>considerable time away from producing any meaningful returns for members.
>>
>>BM has repeatedly told us all in public meetings that investments are
>>in place earning much more than the 2% he pays to us. This appears to be
>>an 'error'.
>>
>>
>>
>>From the first day I arrived at P-Systems, I recognised the problems caused by
>>poor decisions and gross mismanagement. It was my belief that those
>>problems could be solved. It would require huge changes, an
>>
>>abandonment of the 2% return (which was never going to be possible from
>>day one), a freezing of accounts and closure of the program to any new
>>members, until a proper budget and accounting could be prepared.
>>
>>I gave BM repeated reports, memos and advices setting out what I
>>believed was necessary to solve the problems.
>>
>>Unfortunately, none of my advices on matters of substance were accepted.
>>
>>To be fair to BM, he never asked for my opinion or any advice and I
>>was told on a number of occasions that this
>>
>>was not what I was employed to do and to return to my little sandbox and
>>play with the toys that I was given.
>>
>>
>>
>>P-Systems has amongst its membership a very capable corporate 'trouble shooter'

>>from Great Britain, whom was known to BM and myself. I was instructed
>>to bring this man to Malaysia to help sort out the
>>
>>problems of the program and to assist in it's restructure.
>>
>>That alone gave me great heart that things might be about to improve.
>>
>>Since arriving, BM has stone-walled him refusing to provide this very
>>valuable professional with even the most basic company documents or any
>>relevant information (which it appears does not exist). When asked about
>>cash flow, this man was told it was all in his (BM's) and Sharon's
>>head. This of course presents as a total absurdity to professional people
>>like myself and the corporate wizard.
>>
>>There appears to be no accounts at all in relation to the program,
>>corporate governance, legal and regulatory compliance is completely
>>ignored and it is little wonder we find ourselves in financial and
>>regulatory crisis.
>>
>>There are currently 6 Cease & Desist orders filed against the program from

>>Securities regulators.
>>
>>5 in the U.S. States and One in the Netherlands and many more are being
>>processed.
>>
>>We are all aware that ASIC is on the hunt as well, probably with just
>>cause. Little or nothing has been done in relation to these orders,
>>despite my urgent advices.
>>
>>The Orders officially label the P-Systems program a 'Ponzi' scheme and I can
>>find no evidence to dispute this except a Ponzi scheme pays money to
>>members from Deposits.
>>
>>In this case, most of the deposits seem to go to fund 'other things' and
>>members are left in the cold, again against my urgent advices.
>>
>>
>>
>>I am concerned that attempts may be made to reverse all P-Systems payments
>>and that the closure of P-Systems is on the agenda.
>>
>>It is also my opinion that any attempt to do so is illegal.
>>
>>Once the money is paid into P-Systems, it is the member's money and P-Systems is

>>like a bank holding money in your account.
>>
>>The money cannot be touched without your authority.
>>
>>Anyone with money in P-Systems should immediately take a copy of their
>>account profile.
>>
>>P-Systems is a company registered in Malaysia and as such is responsible to
>>
>> follow Malaysian law which is of substance.
>>
>>BM and Sharon will be accountable for any irregularities in relation to

>>your account or the running of P-Systems. P-Systems has a contractual obligation

>>to pay your money to you.
>>
>>
>>
>>It is my belief that the recent reversal of merchant and member accounts
>>in P-Systems represents unlawful conduct.
>>
>>(I was not aware of this action until very recently).
>>
>>I have advised BM and the relevant staff of their legal obligations.
>>
>>I advise every member to protect themselves by taking copies of their
>>P-Systems and P-Systems accounts and to make the strongest objection to any
>>unauthorised interference in relation to those accounts.
>>
>>
>>
>>I can attest that Gary Nichol is not involved in any dishonesty or
>>unpleasantness. He is very despondent about the total disregard for
>>members exhibited by BM and Sharon and that is not the least of his
>>
>> reasons for leaving P-Systems.
>>
>>His concern and commitment to members is as fierce as ever and he and I
>>shall continue to do what we can to ensure members are compensated as best

>>as possible.
>>
>>There are still some things that we can achieve and we shall continue to
>>press for some change of heart and direction from BM and Sharon. Indeed

>>I hope this
>>
>>post will have a 'sobering effect' and present possibility for
>>reassessment. Even knowing all that I do, I still have trouble classifying

>>BM as a 'bad' person.
>>
>>He is extremely intelligent and has many fine qualities. I believe he is
>>somewhat misguided and that he has lost his way.
>>
>>I truly hope that this report will serve to give him reason for self
>>analysis and to bring about necessary changes.
>>
>>I believe he is capable of doing so, if he was to accept the right advice
>>and counsel.
>>
>>
>>
>>There is so much more to tell, but I think you get the gist of my
>>findings.
>>
>>To say I'm devastated would be an understatement.
>>
>>I went to Malaysia to become part of something sensational, instead I
>>arrived to find myself in the middle of a Ponzi scam in its death throes.
>>
>>
>>
>>BM told me yesterday he has something up his sleeve.
>>
>>I'm past listening to repeated promises and chasing the forever 'dangling
>>carrot', but for all the members' sake, I hope it is something good.
>>
>>It cannot save the program, but it will hopefully save people from losing
>>money.
>>
>>I do believe BM has a desire and a commitment to at least paying people

>>to the extent that they will be refunded their money if not managing some
>>profit.
>>
>>
>>
>>Regardless of the outcome, I am grateful to BM for a number of things.
>>
>>Through P-Systems I have made so many good friends and come across many things
>>that I would not have ever seen or encountered.
>>
>>I am now on the threshold of something rather momentous and awe inspiring,

>>as a direct result of the contacts I have made through this program.
>>
>>I have had a holiday with luxury, the likes of which I've never
>>experienced before and enjoyed living a dream called hope.
>>
>>The dream may be somewhat in tatters, but there is much to reflect upon
>>and to be thankful for.
>>
>>BM gave us so much and I invite members, during the period of despair
>>and disappointment to have some regard to the good things and to at least
>>bring some balance
>>
>>into the argument.

I deleted this....

Originally Posted by juju

Hello all,
This forum is not for advertisers. We do not tolerate spam. Member agrees to not promote any other programs in RolClub Forums. Promoting other programs within RolClub may result in the immediate suspension or termination of your account.

I am sorry Juju...

Originally Posted by Style

Originally Posted by juju

Hello all,
This forum is not for advertisers. We do not tolerate spam. Member agrees to not promote any other programs in RolClub Forums. Promoting other programs within RolClub may result in the immediate suspension or termination of your account.

What the **** are you talking about JuJu? They are not spamming, we asked for links to other programs. THAT IS NOT SPAMMING!!!!
Your little "control" tantrum you just went on only leans toward proof of what others are saying and that is that this forum may ACTUALLY be ran by PXPS! If isnt, then what is the harm in discussing other investments. I mean you guys tell us that this forum is in no way related to PXPS, but when we try to discuss other investments, you shut it down.

Forum Admin we respectfully request that you make this moderator fix what they messed up and put the links to other programs back up. Unless of course this actually is a PXPS forum. How you respond to this will let us know the truth.

Took this away too....

Originally Posted by readymix

Don't be a plank. Sailingdom

When you want to edit a post so nothing will be left of the original posting you should delete it in stead...........

Originally Posted by lifetools

Don't be so sensitive you know that feelings are running high.Sailingdom

When you want to edit a post so nothing will be left of the original posting you should delete it in stead...........

Originally Posted by lightrayspips

Originally Posted by lifetools

Hi,

I took the liberty of phoning the pips office in malaysia to find out what the current situation is. The reason I wanted to know is because I have been a member of pips since it started also golden womb days.

I have an account which I opened in march for my son who turned 18.
You can imagine my worry when I started reading all the bad news about pips. I also want to open an account for my other son but needed to be sure first. (the funny thing is I never doubted bryan at any time)

Ok, I spoke to a nice lady at pips office and I asked her very clearly 'Is it ok to go ahead and sign my son up' She said my advice is to sign him up go ahead by all means. When I mentioned all the bad press pips and bryan have been getting she told me that they have brand new staff and a new manager on board. It was like she was so happy to reassure me all is well.

Everything regarding pipsinc is running as normal apart from the withdrawal situation (as we all know) which is currently being worked on and they, the office girls, like us are waiting for bryan to update the membership in the forum. They can only divulge so much information.

ROL is getting paid daily it's not an illusion the funds in your accounts are
real. I cant begin to imagine how desperate our boss must have felt at times. Lets face it here and now PIPS IS ALIVE AND WELL....BRYAN HAS NOT LEFT THE COUNTRY......PIPS IS A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS.

We all just have to be patient...argghhh! sorry about the 'P' word again.

I hope this bit of information helps some of you including myself to rest easy and let bryan and his new managment/staff get to grips with the current situation.

The trouble with most people is that they are so accustomed to living day to day on a certain ammount of money that they just cant imagine a business like 'pips' to give them financial freedom most of us are programmed to accept 'just getting by' as the norm.

Lets all now wait for bryan to update the membership. I understand now why he wont post any information until things are ready to go!

Lets give bryan and his staff our full support.

Thanks.

Peter. :D

Funny Lightsray but so what if he was, try and keep it clean. Sailingdom

When you want to edit a post so nothing will be left of the original posting you should delete it in stead...........