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    RE: KIGE

    I think KIGE is not a scammer since they made a refund. It must be the problem of the person in charge of opening a bank account as Style
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    Well I am not Style, but I decided to call this number and ask for myself and I spoke with a Seargant Taylor in Computer crimes and she said that it was "believed" to be a scam. I asked her if there was "proof" and she said "it is believed to be a scam but the agent handling this is out of the office".
    So I cant answer as to whether they have "proof" or not, but they are investigating it. Probably trying to get proof. I would say that is why jaymanrah aka MK wants us to call. The more calls the more complaints the more possible evidence they can gather.
    Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Man
    Well I am not Style, but I decided to call this number and ask for myself and I spoke with a Seargant Taylor in Computer crimes and she said that it was "believed" to be a scam. I asked her if there was "proof" and she said "it is believed to be a scam but the agent handling this is out of the office".
    So I cant answer as to whether they have "proof" or not, but they are investigating it. Probably trying to get proof. I would say that is why jaymanrah aka MK wants us to call. The more calls the more complaints the more possible evidence they can gather.
    Just my opinion.
    I have been given much more information than you have because I talk to the key witness who revealed the scam. The police do not want to jeopardize their case but there is a ton of evidence. Do you ever watch COPS or another crime show? Someone can be caught red handed with a gun and blood on their clothes next to a body and the police will still refer to them as the "alleged" killer or "suspect". That is why they carefully use words like "believed" to be a scam.
    I personally do not care if you believe me or not. I did my duty to reveal the truth and clear my conscience as a former promoter. Now if a person is stupid enough to invest after all the info I have provided then I do not care. The only reason I published the police numbers is for those who questioned my facts.
    When the COMPUTER CRIME UNIT, who are experts in internet crime, tell anyone who calls that KIGE is "believed" to be a scam then that is good enough for me. Based on the additional info that I have I do not think it will be long before people will be "enlightened".
    If you have ever been a victim of a crime or know someone who has then you know that serious crimes are committed everyday and the police do not pursue based on their belief that they cannot get a conviction. Rapes, robberies, burglaries are all put in "dead" files for lack of evidence. When a police department CREATES AN INVESTIGATION TASK FORCE with multiple officers and agencies you have to ask yourself why?
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    I didnt say I didnt beleive you. I honestly dont care I havent invested in KIGE. I was just calling to cure my own curiosity. It doesnt matter to me if it is a scam or not. I am a neutral person here so I called and I reported what I was told. You act like you have another agenda here since you are getting so defensive. One might ask if you got kicked out of the program and now you are crying scam. You are the MK they refer to on their website so it appears they are going to sue you so maybe you are trying to cover up your guilt by screaming scam? Who knows, I only know I dont care either way personally!

    You know where I live they have a "Drug Task Force Unit", but that doesnt mean that everybody they investigate is guilty. If I called and reported that my neighbor was growing pot in his back yard, they would investigate it because I had called and reported it. It also doesnt mean they created the task force JUST for that investigation either.
    I also doubt that they created the "Computer Crimes Unit" just because of KIGE either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Man
    I didnt say I didnt beleive you. I honestly dont care I havent invested in KIGE. I was just calling to cure my own curiosity. It doesnt matter to me if it is a scam or not. I am a neutral person here so I called and I reported what I was told. You act like you have another agenda here since you are getting so defensive. One might ask if you got kicked out of the program and now you are crying scam. You are the MK they refer to on their website so it appears they are going to sue you so maybe you are trying to cover up your guilt by screaming scam? Who knows, I only know I dont care either way personally!

    You know where I live they have a "Drug Task Force Unit", but that doesnt mean that everybody they investigate is guilty. If I called and reported that my neighbor was growing pot in his back yard, they would investigate it because I had called and reported it. It also doesnt mean they created the task force JUST for that investigation either.
    I also doubt that they created the "Computer Crimes Unit" just because of KIGE either.
    I did not say they created the task force for KIGE. I said there are multiple officers working the CASE IN A TASK FORCE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymanrah
    When a police department CREATES AN INVESTIGATION TASK FORCE with multiple officers and agencies you have to ask yourself why?
    Right here is exactly what you said.
    We were discussing KIGE, nothing else, so YES that is what you were getting at.......you were insinuating that they created this task force because of KIGE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Man
    Right here is exactly what you said.
    We were discussing KIGE, nothing else, so YES that is what you were getting at.......you were insinuating that they created this task force because of KIGE.
    A "TASK FORCE", "AN INDIVIDUAL TASK FORCE" consisting of multiple officers and agencies and headed by Donald.
    THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT than the "Computer Crime" TASK FORCE. I did not say they created "THE" Computer Task Force for KIGE I said they created "A" Task Force for KIGE because what is going on is so grievous. The point is that MULTIPLE OFFICERS are assigned to KIGE KIGE KIGE and yet there are major crimes in a dead file going unnoticed. This equates to the fact that there is a TON TON TON of evidence and multiple crimes committed as well as total dollars involved with NO EVIDENCE of anything legitimate going on

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    jaymanrah

    Wouldn't it be nice if for once YOU would tell it as it is instead of adding all of the background BS trying to make YOU right. There isn't a ton of evidence and this investigation is going to turn up many members who have been paid in spite of your attempts to create your own picture.

    YOUR agenda is in question and the officer has been advised to investigate YOU. KIGE is offshore and apparently paying for some time, which can be proven. YOU are the one who is at risk. All of your histerics is only going to get YOU in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicosan
    jaymanrah

    Wouldn't it be nice if for once YOU would tell it as it is instead of adding all of the background BS trying to make YOU right. There isn't a ton of evidence and this investigation is going to turn up many members who have been paid in spite of your attempts to create your own picture.

    YOUR agenda is in question and the officer has been advised to investigate YOU. KIGE is offshore and apparently paying for some time, which can be proven. YOU are the one who is at risk. All of your histerics is only going to get YOU in trouble.
    Dream On chicosan.

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    This is also my understanding.


    Quote Originally Posted by chicosan
    jaymanrah

    Wouldn't it be nice if for once YOU would tell it as it is instead of adding all of the background BS trying to make YOU right. There isn't a ton of evidence and this investigation is going to turn up many members who have been paid in spite of your attempts to create your own picture.

    YOUR agenda is in question and the officer has been advised to investigate YOU. KIGE is offshore and apparently paying for some time, which can be proven. YOU are the one who is at risk. All of your histerics is only going to get YOU in trouble.

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