Hey marvelx, You are trying I can see that. Another thing I do is give people a sample that I know. Like my neighbors. I put the 1 oz in their auto per 10 gallons. I tell them it needs more for the first dosage to really clean the cardon out. but you will see a difference with that. I sign-up alot of PC= prefered customers. Not everyone wants in a business. And also the fact that those emails blinded alot of folks as well as the rough pre-launch. You just have to Believe in what you are doing to succeed. hope this helped. Attend the calls. Times or below in the post.
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4E Corporate News - July 9th, 2006
Dear 4E Distributors:
July Reward Promotion!
What an amazing pre-launch we have experienced over the last two months. We have had all of the ups and downs that any company would have with over 90,000 distributors rushing through the doors in a ninety- day period. It's unbelievable the amount of excitement and enthusiasm you all have had through the growing pains. To show our appreciation we are introducing a promotion that will give you another opportunity to explode your business.
From July 1st, 2006 to July 15th, 2006 we will again WAIVE the $49.95 Starter Kit fee for Silver and Gold upgrades, exactly as we did in the pre-launch period of the company.
We hope that you truly know how much we appreciate all of the founders and leaders stepping up and being the voice of the company when we needed you most, you are the backbone of 4E and that will never change, 5, 10, 20 years into this business, you guys will always be the FIRST, the company's FOUNDATION. We want you to know that this company is dedicated to the success of your business, not ours, yours. This will be the business that creates a perpetual stream of income for your family and your generations to come
Another change that will begin in August 2006...
All Starter Kits will contain a 12oz Bottle of ETHOS Fuel Reformulator. We feel that it is incredibly important to get product in a New Distributor's hands ASAP. This is one company that the product alone is strong enough to sell itself and recruit a distributor at the same time. As you all know the product's performance is absolutely off the charts. We have thousands of testimonies and personal experiences coming in from a variety of distributors that drive a variety of vehicles, even lawn equipment, even boats, you name it and you guys have put ETHOS in it. And you were all amazed at the results, and your prospects will be too. Be sure to read all of the testimonies coming in by going to the 4E website - http://www.4-ecorp.com/testimonies.php id= styles31
A Few Updates...
• ETHOS is STOCKING SHELVES!, That's Right, ton's of product will soon be moving at HIGH SPEED!
• Customer Support Center has the NEW phone system up and running!
• Your "Back Office" store is stocked with a variety of product packs!
Communicating with the field...
We are working on a more efficient way of delivering emails to the field faster. It is important that you check under your "NEWS" tab daily for emails that will be posted as they are sent. This will allow you to view an email immediately after we send it to the field.
Again we would like to thank you for your patience and praise you for your loyalty. We are a Distributor Driven company and as additional systems come on line, the evidence will speak for itself
Keep yourself Focused, Fueled Up and Share the product,
Thank You!
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Update - Letter from the President
Dear 4E Corp members and customers.
Thank you for your patience this past couple of days, as our IT department transferred the entire system over to the new and now improved server. This will take a few more days until the DNS servers completely update. This unfortunately caused a gap in our email communication to the entire 4E database and with all that is going on out there, we just
wanted to let you know that we are as always, hard at work developing the necessary tools to assist you in building your business.
This past few weeks have been a test of our systems and management, as some of you have experience delays with shipping. As we explained a week ago, we found a glitch in the mechanism causing this delay, resulting in a random situation whereby some of the product packs missed their destination etc. After testing several companiesfor our shipping, it became clear to Ethos Environment and 4E that UPS is the best choice after all. As a result, we are now please to inform you that, (minus some misplaced packages while utilizing DHL), we are in fact up to date and within our normal delivery time frame of 5 - 7 business days. We will do everything in our power to insure delivery of every package order, however If you have still not receive a tracking number, or feel that your product is still overdue, please inform us by email at [email protected]
We wish you to know that I am honored to be a part of your life and this great opportunity, as we build toward our goal of 1,000,000 customers by year end 2007. Imagine the impact on our environment with just a 5% reduction in emissions, let alone 30%.
Remember to bring your guest to our live 5:00PM pst. opportunity conference call, Monday thru Friday, and our corporate update call Tuesday 4:00PM pst.
212-461-5860 pin code: 1670#
Lets make it a great week everyone!
Onward and upward
Shane Maguire
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4E Customer Service Update
Our goal at 4 E Customer Service is to provide you the Distributors and Preferred Customers with quick answers and solutions to your questions and concerns. We have been tracking your Support Tickets and in an effort to provide you information in an expedited fashion, we have sent out several emails to the field addressing several of your support issues and have FAQs posted on the 4 E website. As of today all Support Tickets dated prior to July 9, 2006 have been set to “Resolved” and closed. If your question or concern has not been addressed personally by Customer Service, the 4 E emails or the FAQs we ask you to please call Customer Support at (916) 242-4770.
For your convenience we have extended Customer Service hours Monday through Friday 8am – 6pm PST effective immediately (best time to call is 2pm – 6pm PST). We have also added Saturday hours 8am – 1pm PST beginning July 22, 2006 during this busy time.
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4E Daily Communication - 7/17/06
July 17, 2006
Good Morning Team!
This is going to be another very exciting week here at 4E. We have several things to share with you this week – and the news will begin with this Monday morning email. Our continued and steady growth reinforces the commitment from both the field – as well as our corporate team – to make a positive impact in our world.
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Yes – TEAM work – does make the DREAM work! This is a company you can be proud of – with a product that has proven itself for more than a decade – and continues to be highly sought after by anyone that drives a motor vehicle. Once again the national news, this past weekend, was preparing us for increased gas prices here in the states. The higher the gas prices soar – the greater dollar savings folks will experience at the pump.
Here are a few of quick notes of interests for you today!
Shipping
We are pleased to report that we are now current on all product shipping. All of the back orders have been filled, all of the missing shipments have been reshipped, and all of our current orders are shipped within 48-72 hours (business days) of the order being processed. In most cases, you should be receiving your order in about 7 days from the date of placing your order from within the continental US.
If there is still anyone out there that has not received their order, please do not delay any longer in contacting us at [email protected] and notifying us as to your situation. Please include your name, username, order number, order date and other pertinent details i.e. order not received, replacement not received etc.
China Pictures
Please take a moment and check out the photos we are now receiving back from Shanghai at the NEWS tab on the 4E website. This is the first of several we will be posting for you on your 4E website. We will also be sure to alert you as to the date and time that the Discovery Channel will be airing their special program on Global Warming. While in Shanghai, Enrique De Vilmorin was interviewed for a segment of that program. We understand that it is currently in post production and no date for airing has been released.
[b]Customer Service Department[b/]
Our Customer Service Department continues to make great strides in moving forward. Our new phone system has been a tremendous plus – and we appreciate the positive feedback from the field about it. Our next step is increasing the number (once again) of support personnel to handle your calls. Over the coming weeks, you will be hearing at least a dozen new voices - ready, willing, and able to assist you when you call. Our new support team personnel will be undergoing intensive training for the next several weeks in all areas; from the compensation plan to product questions. We are continuing to expand and develop our corporate office team today – to be prepared to meet the needs for tomorrow.
As we stated from the beginning, this is going to be an exciting week. Be sure to line up your guests for Dan Atkinson’s Opportunity Call that will be at 8pm EDT / 5pm PDT today. Call into our company line (212-461-5860 pin code: 1670#) about 5 – 10 minutes early and announce yourself, where you are calling from and the names of your guests that you have on the call with you. Once you have been greeted, please remember to hit STAR 6 (*6) on your phone or your mute button, to mute out your line. It is important to mute your line to avoid the distracting background noise that prevents us from hearing.
We look forward to hearing you say hello on the call today!
Have an awesome week,
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I have had enquires of how to get a refund from 4-E.
Ok. I have the instructions here on how to go about getting a refund on the unused portion of your product. The way 4-E told me to go about it. But below is another way Yogi has presented to go about with out sending anything back. Thanks Yogi.
First go to your website.
Click on Products.
Go to the right side and then click on Policeys and Proceedure.
Stroll down to 7.4 and copy this and fill it out and send it back with package to:
4-E Corp
3009 Douglas Blvd. suite#150
Roseville, California. 95661
I most likely will do the same since 4-E has killed my International Business By not delievering on their promises to have this in place quick enough. I am sorry and it is out off my control what they do and dont do as far as they stated to us all. But I have gotten all instructions here for us to get a refund of 90% of unused product..( or better yet follow the instructions below) You may call them yourselfs here at 1-916-242-4770
I will say that the product works and I might stay on as a customer but will nolonger run it for a business. Thanks to all that tried and it still may work for others. But my overall contacts are International and they are not ready for that yet.
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Here's additional mail I received, next to the four submissions I handed over to my bank for the charge backs, some 3 weeks ago...it was already getting to stink... but I acted quickly, the tell-tale signs were too obvious...thanks to US Media for their part or we would all be taken for another greasy ride with a lubricated hide....
REFUNDS
July, 2006
Many of you have written to me asking how to obtain a refund from your
investment in 4E Corporation. Some of you have not used the product because of the change in the appearance and are afraid it may hurt your engine. Some have actually used the product and it has damaged their cars. Others have said that they used the product and there was no increase in mileage, as Ethos and 4E had represented to you in order to get you to buy the product.
Many of you have not received your product as promised. And, most often, people tell me that 4E Corporation has debited their accounts for unapproved charges. As uncovered in our investigation, Ethos FR and 4E Corporation have made false and misleading claims and representations that constitute fraudulent inducement to have you invest in this product.
You have several options for a refund. You can demand a refund from 4E
Corporation. You can do this by a written email to Wendy Yurgo, the attorney for 4E Corporation.
Her email address is: [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])
She will be able to contact the company to expedite your refund. You do not have to return any unused product to receive this refund as the representations and claims made about the product and Enrique de Vilmorin were found to be false and misleading. Ms. Yurgo has sent many refunds by overnight delivery to those who have demanded the return of their funds.
If the company refuses to make restitution by way of an immediate refund, by cashier check, you can go to your bank or credit card company to report this fraud. You must fill out a form that the company misrepresented the product and that the claims that they made concerning the reliability of the tests performed on the product were false. Your bank will then have to act accordingly.
You should also file a complaint with the Attorney General for the State of California. You can go to:
_http://ag.ca.gov/consumers/consumer_complaint.htm_ (http://ag.ca.gov/consumers/consumer_complaint.htm)
In addition, file a complaint with the BBB:
_http://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/complaintlink.aspx_ (http://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/complaintlink.aspx)
The address of 4E Corporation is:
3009 Douglas Blvd., Suite 150, Roseville, CA 95661.
Anyone who has purchased stock with Enrique de Vilmorin should file a
complaint with the Securities Exchange Commission at:
https://tts.sec.gov/acts-ics/do/complaint_ (https://tts.sec.gov/acts-ics/do/complaint)
If anyone needs any assistance in obtaining the refund of your investment with 4E Corporation and Ethos Environmental, please do not hesitate to write. I have spent many waking hours in my investigation, traveling to San Diego, Los Angeles and Sacramento, talking with the proper authorities and identifying the authentic documents and Court records relating to the Ethos product and Enrique de Vilmorin. The principals at 4E Corporation were aware of the false and misleading claims made by Enrique de Vilmorin. They knew that the test that were used to market Ethos FR were results from test done on the D-1280X product blended by Omstar. They also knew that Enrique worked with Omstar
and that Enrique used the old “bait and switch” to fraudulently induce many of you to invest in his company.
Not one document has been submitted to dispute the claims and documents that we have uncovered. The only defense to these accusations and documentation is to “shoot the messenger”. Nobody is concerned about the people who have invested their hard earned money in Ethos FR and 4E Corporation. They tell you to “stay focused” or “stay the course”. They want for you to wear horse blinders so that you continue to make them more money. Take your blinders off and read the documents. Ask questions. Demand answers. You deserve that much for your investment.
Richard Snell
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Wednesday 7.26.2006 - Key Points from "State of 4-ECorp" Call Yesterday.
4E Daily Communication - Wednesday 7/26/06
Good Morning Team!
Welcome to the 1st Day of the 2nd 100 days of operation of 4E. Yes – yesterday marked our 100th Day. What an incredible journey these 1st 100 days have been.
On the “State of the Company” call yesterday, Dan Atkinson, our President, addressed the members. Here are some of the key points he covered:
Dream Stealers:
Dan immediately addressed the emails that have been received by many of our members over the past month. Their purpose is to steal your dream, create doubt, and to spread false propaganda. The latest barrage of emails has stated:
-Dan is leaving – NOT TRUE! Dan has accepted his new position as President of 4E Corporation and has hit the ground at full speed.
-Shane is leaving – NOT TRUE! Shane has accepted his new position, heading up the Commercial division and its development.
-Bad Checks – NOT TRUE! 4E has not issued bad checks. We did do a duplicate run of checks, about 400, and notified the recipients that the checks with check numbers in that sequence were duplicate checks and payment had been canceled on those checks.
-Rumor of Enrique stirring the product with a boat oar – NOT TRUE! The new multi-million dollar plant is high tech – and no one will be stirring the product with a boat oar. How ridiculous!
It is so important to realize how ridiculous these emails are. Think of them in the terms of one of the rag magazines in the check out lines at your favorite grocery store. They are designed to create sales based on sensationalism. Sales – well, remember these emails began with the premise of cross-recruiting our members over to their company, to enhance their sales force. Motive!
We recommend exercising your right to censor the emails you read – and to hit your delete button. We are leaving this matter in the hands of our attorneys and the legal process. This is being thoroughly dealt with – but it does take much longer than we would have chosen.
Pre-Launch:
“In pre-launch – life gets in the way,” stated Dan Atkinson. So well said!
Over the last 100 days, things have grown faster than we ever anticipated, things have taken longer than we ever anticipated, and things have been maxed out beyond what we would have anticipated.
As we prepared to open the doors back in April, we anticipated having a base of around 5000 distributors to launch the business. That would be an excellent number and manageable. No one would have ever dreamed that we would have over 60,000 members in 30 days, and now over 100,000 in 100 days.
This HUGE number of distributors maxed out our ability to meet the product orders, which was compounded with the 6-8 week delay in receiving the automated bottling equipment from that manufacturer. This created a HUGE backlog in orders. That hurdle is now behind us – product is shipped on time, for the last 2 weeks – and even a product inventory has been developed and stocked in preparation for the rush of orders that will occur when credit card orders begin.
The phone equipment that was in place when we opened was incapable of handling the demands from the field – so we had to totally pull that system and install a state-of-the-art communication system to meet the needs of our members. Now that we have that in place, calls are being handled in a timely fashion, and even the support tickets are now current and up-to-date. The Customer Service Department is still in the process of preparing for even greater growth and expanding its capability now, to be ahead of the curve this time.
The Commercial Division is in development, credit cards are on their way, autoship has been on hold, and everything is being adapted to fit the flow of business as we begin to move up to the next level of volume. This is a product driven company. That means that the demand for product is going to continue to increase at a steady rate and the world begins to awaken to the knowledge of the incredible product we have – EthosFR.
There will be a special call/email on Friday. This will be updating the field in regard to the forthcoming Customer Page, Overseas marketing, and more.
As we wrap up this email update – this too is your 1st day in the next 100 days of your business. Think about that. Set a 100 day goal. Layout the necessary steps to achieve that goal! Take action! Make it happen!
Today’s Corporate Calls:
(212) 461-5860 pin code 1670#
8pm EDT / 5pm PDT – Corporate Opportunity Call
For the Opportunity Call - call into our company line (212-461-5860 1670#) about 5 – 10 minutes early and announce yourself, where you are calling from, and the names of your guests that you have on the call with you. Once you have been greeted, please remember to hit STAR 6 (*6), or your mute button, to mute out your line. It is important to mute your line to avoid the distracting background noise that prevents us from hearing.
Once again, we look forward to hearing you say hello on the call today!
We know that some 4E members are not receiving updates via their email. Please, pass these daily updates along to your TEAM members. Be sure to let everyone know that they are also posted daily under the NEWS link on their 4E website.
Have a wonderful Wednesday!
Your 4E Corporate TEAM
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I received a few emails from someone high in the upline that was sending out warnings of this program being a scam. They are very lengthy.
If you are interested in a copy of them, please feel free to contact me with your email address and I will forward a copy to you.
Kozmar
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If U R having those mails from Phil....had it for quite some time already.... and those signals ain't kidding either which was what made me first head for my own garage coz my car is fitted with the latest of those catalyst filters... that I don't want to mess around with with some saving fluid that ain't really making me that much less of a richer driver....and what I was warned about.... I took heed of Phil's scam alert in no half second to decide....
I was glad I didn't waste my time on that goofy grease....
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