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    I was aware of the 4 percent advertising fee to recoup losses, which will make for a long road to get it back that way. But AT has every right to pursue full legal action. No updates have seemed to been given on that.

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    Yes it is amazing that SP earned high fees for so long from many web programs.. I requested a chec with my $ from SP and I received it 1 month ago.. went to the Bank and it is cleared!! wohoo Sadly, over 70% of the money I had there is somewhere lost in the SP and other web programs. But SP still runing for one reason or another and they are giving good checks to cash out!
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    I heard the SP folks are busy learning Spanish right now so they can skip the country. They better hurry up if they do not like prison.

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    is there any truth in what you said, dough145? I sure hope they are locked up for good.

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    SP confiscated at least a few million $ I heard. I KNOW that $2350 of it was mine. I definitely would like it back.

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    Amendment to my above statement: I heard today that AT does have an attorney that is working on it and is not at liberty to discuss it. Why it is taking so long (and may take a LOT longer I heard) I do not know.

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    Alien Trust and the other auto surfs cannot sue storm pay, they are illegal companies, most of them are not properly registered and do not have access to the courts, the ones that are cannot because legal discovery would put them the position of having to produce records etc that would put them in prison. I doubt they will really get away with it, but in a way, making these accounts disappear could be the perfect crime.

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    So Stormpay just gets to keep our money then?

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    Let me just resurrect this thread as a warning to all ROL members.

    Vince Kronlein scammed everyone, no news there, but read on.

    He stopped payouts in June and promissed he was getting an automatic payout script going, then as the weeks went by he changed his updates saying he was selling to an offshore buyer.
    For about 5 weeks AT continued to scam its members by accepting upgrades and both Vince and Stephanie posted that people should continue buying as they would still be earning and would get paid as soon as the sale was made.

    The business sale fell through according to the BS that Vince came out with, and that was the last we heard from him.

    Now get this, the thief Kronlein has started another online 'business', no doubt with our money
    He even has pictures and profiles of himself and the Kronlein cronies, who helped moderate the AT forum!!

    http://www.myzapwire.com/vincek

    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=113 795740

    Just thought you should all know what this scammer is up to now so that you can warn people not to have anything to do with him, and certainly not to part with any money.

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