Thread: SI pooling - I'm going to wait

Originally Posted by everwiser

I hear everyone's opinions on this and I'm still feeling that sinking feeling. Why? Because of this...Why push everyone into the special plan?

I can basically understand the monthly disbursments; it cuts down on overhead and frees up resources. That makes business sense. What doesn't make business sense, however, is by pushing every sizable account into the special plan, they are making their outflows significantly higher and keeping less for the day-to-day running and expansion of their company.

In the regular plan you didn't get paid 3% until you had invested $10K+$1 or higher. However, this same amount of money commands 6% in the special plan. This means if the company and it's partners or shareholders are in business to make money (and I don't know of any real business that isn't), they will make more money from people with money in the regular plan because they get to keep the difference between; for every regular plan the company would make a minimum of 3% (more on accounts totalling less than $10K). If their special plan investments can sustain daily interest of 6%, they would be making a great deal more money for themselves if they had more people in the regular plan...They invest all of the money they take in into one huge "pool" (or several large pools into differing investments). If they are making over 6% on all of that money (and they have to be if they're going to stay in business), why would they give up the extra money making potential by making the majority of their accounts "special plan" accounts? It just doesn't make good business sense...

This is why I am very dubious about this...I'm sorry if I have stated the obvious to everyone, but I just don't see the reason for a cheery disposition about this...

Everwiser

I think the obvious is becoming more obvious everyday now
there is thread started on their own e-currency forum by one of the MOD Kristo stating a number of facts indicating that they will be gone by the payment date
one of those points is that their e-currency contract expires on June 27 and they have not renewed it
I have said this before, i do not see any reason for forcing evrybody into the SP plan except that they are planning to run
I also do not believed the 96% number they are flashing as an excused to push everyone into that plan
I not trying to stir the emotions here, but I think the sooner people realize it's over the better, so they can focus their energy and resource on something else
I started discouraging people from joining SI 2 months ago and i set all my accounts to 0% reinvest
their recent move and the SP plan is not surprising (it has been used before by other programs) and No one should be joining them at this time or event promoting them

spirit, I respect your opinion, because everyone has thier own. but i can't understand why you are trying to bury the horse before its last breath is drawn. Who said this program is OVER? "but I think the sooner people realize it's over the better" They have changed thier payout policy, Period! Give them a chance to hold to thier promises before you start bashing. If No pay, as promised on July 3, I will Join Forces with your Opinion. But until then I think they need the chance to prove thenselves. BOB

OH yes , I am a DIEHARD and still believe that PIPS will make a comeback also. NEVER say die. It aint over till the fat lady sings. LOL

Have to agree with you, offering 6% to try and quash the change, dangling the carrot so people hold onto false hopeto keep the noise down. their business ethics are poor which points to scam. No warnings, all locked up, The site will likly go over the next few weeks or so..... Can be said Good business reasons for the change in plan, but agreed, the way it has been delivered makes me also very dubious.

Originally Posted by everwiser

I hear everyone's opinions on this and I'm still feeling that sinking feeling. Why? Because of this...Why push everyone into the special plan?

I can basically understand the monthly disbursments; it cuts down on overhead and frees up resources. That makes business sense. What doesn't make business sense, however, is by pushing every sizable account into the special plan, they are making their outflows significantly higher and keeping less for the day-to-day running and expansion of their company.

In the regular plan you didn't get paid 3% until you had invested $10K+$1 or higher. However, this same amount of money commands 6% in the special plan. This means if the company and it's partners or shareholders are in business to make money (and I don't know of any real business that isn't), they will make more money from people with money in the regular plan because they get to keep the difference between; for every regular plan the company would make a minimum of 3% (more on accounts totalling less than $10K). If their special plan investments can sustain daily interest of 6%, they would be making a great deal more money for themselves if they had more people in the regular plan...They invest all of the money they take in into one huge "pool" (or several large pools into differing investments). If they are making over 6% on all of that money (and they have to be if they're going to stay in business), why would they give up the extra money making potential by making the majority of their accounts "special plan" accounts? It just doesn't make good business sense...

This is why I am very dubious about this...I'm sorry if I have stated the obvious to everyone, but I just don't see the reason for a cheery disposition about this...

Everwiser

Hi Marek,
I take it the SI pool as we were thinking is off and we should hold our funds and wait on RC program. Or do we still send the funds to you and you will keep them and decide on what to do depending on SI next move?
What if ... SI somehow pays on July 3rd and then we all go in and now they take us as suckers? Hmmmm not sure where the pendulum stops but I really hate it when a program changes their tune. I have never seen one of them that survives thereafter. So I am hoping that RC thinks through its plans properly before announcing anything. Pips used to change things around too even from the Goldenwomb days ... yes I know who wasn't to blame etc but my point is when the juggling starts trouble starts.
I would really love SI to work but until I know where they 'manufacture' the money the payout figures will be twice or more than the original contracted amount and I am wondering if these obligations will be met.
Ah well we wait and see where it goes and hope this is ...
asgoodasitgets

Originally Posted by asgoodasitgets

Hi Marek,
I take it the SI pool as we were thinking is off and we should hold our funds and wait on RC program. Or do we still send the funds to you and you will keep them and decide on what to do depending on SI next move?
What if ... SI somehow pays on July 3rd and then we all go in and now they take us as suckers? Hmmmm not sure where the pendulum stops but I really hate it when a program changes their tune. I have never seen one of them that survives thereafter. So I am hoping that RC thinks through its plans properly before announcing anything. Pips used to change things around too even from the Goldenwomb days ... yes I know who wasn't to blame etc but my point is when the juggling starts trouble starts.
I would really love SI to work but until I know where they 'manufacture' the money the payout figures will be twice or more than the original contracted amount and I am wondering if these obligations will be met.
Ah well we wait and see where it goes and hope this is ...
asgoodasitgets

RC's plan is independent and wont be based on any false stuff. We might deliver 0.25%-1% a day, but not more then we can manage for sure. No over promisses.

Regarding SI pool, hmmm. I wanted to pool into the 6% thing. More then 250 people have contacted be, willing to invest about 200k. BUT i will not take money from anyone before i see that SI's payout policy realy works.
And then again, past performance is no indication for the future.

WHat if they pay out the 1 of july, and then don't pay out in the next round. I have read so many good things about SI, just 2 weeks back. Their forum was full of SI praises. Now i see that the tone has changed.

For me the facts are simple. I wont gather funds unless i we all feel that its STILL safe to invest in SI.

BUT GUYS! there must be other programs out there we can pool in on.
I have seen offshoreclub.biz working for past 6-8 months, as they keep renewing ads with RC all the time. Does anyone have any good experience with them? how many % do they offer?

I would rather go for a program that has proven it self for a while.
The word is free. Let me know what you guys think.

regards
admin

Marek,

I have been trying to get you attention regarding VIP Invest.

They have paid all of my referral commiissions directly & automatically
into my e-gold acct. I am at 100% compounding rate. I am waiting for
my acct to run the 30/30 day cycle. Then, I will know the truth. Just
be sure to read the forum posts regarding Payment Reports.

They pay over 7% daily on amounts $2000-9999. Will negotiate a higher
ROI on larger amounts over $10k.

$9000.00 compounding 100% @ 7% yields over $60K in 30 days.

It is worth a test spend IMHO. Set compounding ratio from 0 to 100%
to test if they payout automatically to your e-gold acct

See the link below my signature.

i know that i was one that scoffed when i first read of the changes to the payment system but reading it again realy makes good sence and we can only go with it and hope it tunes out to be good,and maybe just maybe it will all work and si will be here for sometime just with a little bit of change.

What about FOB and Korris? I've been with him for quite sometime and maybe we can work something out where we can invest without surfing?
Just a suggestion!

krisark

Grace, mercy and forgiveness will help a man walk tall - JCM

Originally Posted by Admin

RC's plan is independent and wont be based on any false stuff. We might deliver 0.25%-1% a day, but not more then we can manage for sure. No over promisses.

Regarding SI pool, hmmm. I wanted to pool into the 6% thing. More then 250 people have contacted be, willing to invest about 200k. BUT i will not take money from anyone before i see that SI's payout policy realy works.
And then again, past performance is no indication for the future.

WHat if they pay out the 1 of july, and then don't pay out in the next round. I have read so many good things about SI, just 2 weeks back. Their forum was full of SI praises. Now i see that the tone has changed.

For me the facts are simple. I wont gather funds unless i we all feel that its STILL safe to invest in SI.

BUT GUYS! there must be other programs out there we can pool in on.
I have seen offshoreclub.biz working for past 6-8 months, as they keep renewing ads with RC all the time. Does anyone have any good experience with them? how many % do they offer?

I would rather go for a program that has proven it self for a while.
The word is free. Let me know what you guys think.

regards
admin

If SI does not keep it's promies on the July payout. I for one will not touch another Hyip . I have lost to many times, and to much money to different programs that just make promises, and NEVER pay off the final amount due. I could make a page of the programs I have been burned with, and never recieved compensation from I really thought, and still think SI will come through, but I also believe PIPS will come through .
the irony of this is that they get all this money from SUCKERS like MYSELF with promises of Paying, and then Burn us out, and they get away FREE. I have yet to see anyone of the scamers get caught at their games, and get any Jail time. Has anyone here acctually SEEN SAM COLINS? I could be SAM COLINS! LOL ---------------NOT a bad IDEA.HUH? MILLIONS of dollar ON PAPER> where is all this money and who controls IT.? even I am becoming doubtful ----SORRY GUYS I had a revelation in my sleep last night. The rich get richer, and the poor stay right where they are, and keep on trying to become the rich. Why doesn't SAM COLINS, ( or whatever the real Name is) COME forward with the real reason he is changing this policy I am becoming very confused. . and begining to rant. Have a great day and --well, Keep on trying to keep the faith! BOB

PS anyone interested in starting our own Program and see how much money we can amass? LOL