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14-07-2006, 03:48 AM #22
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14-07-2006, 04:03 AM #24Originally Posted by bjft
If a HYIP is going to be above board, then the names of the owners and all contact numbers should be listed in the whois.
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I lost over $3, 500 to 'Honest' HYIP Admins Who Spoke The Same As This Person
Seriously, RolClub folks,
When SI was in the last throes of its planned SCAM, I read something about RolClub, and came, and looked around here. I found a group of HYIP-weathered, and smitten folk with too many bruises to go after more HYIP-bastard investment scams - or so I thought.
“Marek”, (I place 'Marek' in Quotes to indicate the generic use of the name as a genre') you may ban me for what I am about to say about your choices, but really, I am ashamed of myself for allowing my slip of judgment about your apparent sincerity;
(Although I do include {"What do we wait for? Let's get started to make the ONE legit HYIP on the entire Internet!"} following the first points I make about what I *assume* is your lack of integrity:)
. . .here's why I think you may want to ban me - but, please don't! I think this may NOT actually be you, only what seems to be you:-);
1. YOU are promoting this bastard-investing scam, YellowStones.net (See the reasoning for this conclusion below). YOU, sir, are not making 'gifts' to all us poor SI suckers without a major payback to your own pocket via a large and growing finder's fee from yellowstones.net for referral of each new account with deposits under you. I don't see anyone here with enough wisdom to see your ploy. You are trying to make yourself look like a hero, giving paltry $10 amounts to SI losers, like myself.
2. “Marek”, I admired you, in the beginning, since you seemed to speak for the people who were being taken by the HYIP scam, no, I said that right, HYIP SCAM, for the facts given in the yellowstones.net admin response - below.
EVERY HYIP is SCAM. Read the clearly detailed meaning from this admin's post: "But if you look for in the "About us" in the yellowstones.net website, no information of that type appears. But the good news is: all needed information should be published soon." .
". . . Now Yellowstones.net is offering high returns (2,9% to 3,8%), but ANY serious investors, who know about the financial market, know that it doesn't exist any serious investment program witch is able to give this rate for the very long time."
". . . Is Yellowstones will offer rates up to 3,8% all the time?
The answer is NO."
". . . It shoud be around 0,5% to 1,5% working days. Maybe variable daily rates, I cannot know at this moment."
That is a RED Flag if ever! Where does the "Interest" on every buck you entice to this scam come from?
PONZI –
not a red cent - or a bloody SI cyber cent - comes from ANY actual investment! In fact, from all the SCAMS you and this forum have promoted, and YOU have instigated them all, with a very sizable net gain to your GREED-Based e-gold account from all the referral fees these suckers unwittingly give you, EVERY single one is DEAD!
That's Correct: ALL are D-E-A-D!!!
That's not all, either - you have kept your referral fees, and made a high profit, while the rest of us hold onto our hurts with major financial loss to these criminals.
3. This ***** with a crooked, criminal CON-Smile on his muzzle is invited to be admin of this forum, and can edit posts, ban honest, truth-seeking members, and those who dare lay out the bare facts about what this "RolClub" is actually about - making “Marek”, a very wealthy man - at the loss experienced by thousands of RolClub's gullible members! I feel so suckered!
4. Anybody who sees yellowstones.net for what the ANONYMOUS admin has plainly stated it is, SCAM, and reports that fact to this forum will be ignored, or outright banned - I believe. Prove me wrong, “Marek”, . Please.
5. I have read several other threads here in RolClub about yellowstones.net, and see a glimmer of hope for trouncing that criminal and his/her crime-based fraud off the Internet, and, hopefully, into prison for a very long cooling spell. I just cannot get over your promoting such crimes, “Marek”, !!
6. Now, if you have read this far, and NOT banned me, there is at least some hope that you are open to reformation, honesty, and the production- promotion of a legit investing service, one that can grow by truly long-lasting, exponential measure. No, I do not have it in mind, but this forum has the capacity to put such a grand system together almost overnight! Think of the blessing that FantasticPay is for people to own a home, without a down to scrape together! Think what there is in the vast energy investing field! Consider all the fantastic investing going into China; into medicines; into sustainable agriculture; into alternate energies; into a myriad of things we humans use in our daily living. WOW! It's just wide open!
What do we wait for? Let's get started to make the ONE legit HYIP on the entire Internet!
On the MoneyMaker Forum, this thread has an "honest" HYIP admin as a featured guest - for a few posts, until it gets too hot for his lies to stand! His HYIP quickly fades into oblivion, and he is silent for a month! Now, his site is "Maybe" coming back. But, his SCAM was revealed for the lie it is, and he is clearly proven a criminal. Check it out:
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index...ic=84335&st=45
Hiding for any reason, as the admin of yellowstones.net (YellowStreak.scam should be the moniker) clearly says he is, and will presumably continue doing, as he/she states below, is the first sign of SCAM. When you lay out a plan to con and steal anyone's money, first you want your identity to be completely hidden. Then you set about to gain your victim(s)'s confidence, just as this criminal is doing on this forum - by invitation, not less!
After you have made your con-victim feel secure in your scam, by giving a semblance of promised returns for their cooperation, you go for the real theft; their entire estate. Countless trusting folk, like RolClub members, go for this, hook, line, sinker, and pole! Who wins?
NOBODY not even the bastards like this yellowstones.net admin character! They soon lose all your conned belongings to their own terrible inability to live honest, sincere lives. Most, like this creep should, wind up in long prison terms at some point. Even the most sorry-ass doo doo bird will wise up and turn the jerk in to the Law. The Internet makes it harder, but in the end, this creep treats his own family and all personal friends with the same greedy, mean heart as he wants to treat us RolClub members; with cheating, lies, and theft. He will put himself into prison, or be murdered trying to con a meaner thug.
“Marek”, please wise up! We all need a break from HYIP SCAM! Needed is a club where all work together to produce truly sustainable investments with real gains from working capital. PONZI is Not working capital!
Our large potential for capital to invest is rather amazing, even after SI and PIPS, and Vasco, and the host of other failed RolClub-approved Scams have taken their toll on us! Let's use our collective brains to discover, to form, to build, to do whatever is needed to create a mighty investment that actually gives all a steady, unending income - for once!
I hope you, “Marek”, are NOT the person I painted in the first part of this post. Are you?
BTW; I am fully prepared to post this entire message on a host of other forums. You cannot litigate against me, for I do not reveal any personal info about you, so any factual evidence can be used to cause you personal harm, loss, or even abuse of your personal reputation. I address "“Marek”, , RolClub Admin." I do not know who you are in person, and I assume no one else does either. I may be wrong, but I speak with candid honesty about the activities and advice that RolClub is making public, as if factual and reliable data and information for Online Investing. I could care less who “Marek”, is, and I would hope with all my heart and intentions that all the “Marek”, s" with such ignomious advice would be either able to see and reverse their fraudulent advising, or get prison for spreading their greed-based con-talk.
I hope that the RolClub Forum is where honest-minded folk gather to seek legit investing, and where the SCAMs are exposed, criminally prosecuted, and eliminated from ever again being tolerated on the entire Internet. This is the purpose behind what I have written here.
“Marek,” take what I write with due diligence, caution, and honest evaluation. It applies to everyone who hosts any Website that purports to disseminate investing advice to any one, whether a private group, public, or individual advising. Integrity for the advisor is the greatest asset one can have; advising anyone to invest funds where you receive a referral is suspect; asking for and enticing funds into any scam, such as yellowstones.net, with such clear markings of con-job all over it, is a crime with clear sentence guidelines. I could care less what your real name is, “Marek”, I Do Care about what you say to the public, and to those with trust in your integrity, or lack thereof. That motivates this post.
Thank you.
BTW, WorldLawDirect is seeking criminal prosecution for SI operators;
http://www.worldlawdirect.com/articl...ment_scam.html
Oh! The last, most vital point to discern a HYIP SCAM IS English Grammar!
Why? Let’s check:
A. Ever hear about Online Translation Services? Click this search for a host of decent, FREE, translation services, where almost any language may be easily translated to English! Then, copy and paste the yellowstones.net admin’s post into a word processor, or send it to a spelling analyzer. See his/her terrible “speeling” problems? If you can think, you can use the Internet to create correct English! These bastards don’t give a rip about their victims, because easily-conned folks overlook the “obvous” – ALWAYS!!
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tra...&cop=&ei=UTF-8
B. English is widely taught in China, and most other Asian countries. If not spoken well, it is *SPELLED* well! Criminals never can spell – because they care nothing for correct language use – their greed denies them the ability to discern correct language from what they use.
C. Honest businessmen and women use the best possible language skills. This is so what they say is discerned by their audience to mean what they want it to mean. Misunderstood meanings are core to Bad Business. Actual Investing Advisors and Businesspeople will do the impossible so that what they speak and write is clearly understood in the way they mean it to be understood. Only gullible fools will allow misunderstandings to creep into their business dealings. Yes, I’ve been a gullible fool to believe HYIP crap!
D. Read the message from the yellowstones.net admin, below. See if what I write is applicable. If not, scrap my post as a scam! At least you tried!
Originally Posted by YS_Admin
The best professional criminals in the entire world go and study the language and culture of their intended victims! Don't believe it? The Internet is filled with detailed accounts of how con-workers have worked at disguising themselves as members of their intended victims' community, fellowship, and even private clubs!! I'm sure this yellowstones.net admin criminal has done all he/she can to impress RolClub members, and all U.S. Citizens of his/her efforts to fit into our living. Nothing new here! Trouble is, he/she is not H-O-N-E-S-T about intentions, integrity, and I-D-E-N-I-T-Y!!!!!!
Show me an honest business person, and I will show you a person who stands tall in their surrounding community! PERIOD! If they lose, it is in their best interest to be widely known, AND Respected by ALL associates - WHY? - because having honest associates can save one's neck when falling on hard times! ONLY thieves refuse to reveal their Identity! Make no assumptions about them otherwise!Last edited by Admin; 16-07-2006 at 12:04 AM.
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Quit trying to beat up on the YS admin
At least he answers the questions and if you don't like the answers...then don't get in. The price to get in is low and you just might make some good money while the YS admin is trying to give it his best try. It is better to try and fail than not to have tried at all.
Sounds to me like he has a plan...higher rates at first until he has enough funds to do the more secure investing which usually means lower rate of return. I just made some more profit in my account so at this time...I am happy. Just hope he is good at sports betting or has someone who is.
By the way, he has always answered my emails promptly.
Thanks to Marek for letting me know about Yellowstones!
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Wow,i agree with investigatory practices and checking out a business.One thing though is that yellowstones admin is showing visibility(by hanging in the forum),that is good.You can look at it either way you want really.You could say that his visibility is just a way to gain trust and then con you later,but then again how would you ever find a good admin (or program) if every one that visibly showed himself was ostrisized for doing so?Its all just a matter of being smart with your investments as i have learned and hopefully so have many of you after the latest scams hit hard.Do not put all your eggs into one basket.Invest diversly.You increase your chances for successful investments and take less of a chance on losses.There is money to be made in Hyip but like anything else you have to use intelligence and not get overly excited by new programs promising large returns.As im starting to learn the best programs are the ones that offer a fair interest and are highly visible.Granted,the admin of yellowstones does not have all his information posted on the website,but there is a promise to do so.Now promises are always broken but we at least need to give the man the respect he deserves for showing up here and citing reasons why he is anon to a certain extent on the site.Lets just see what he can do i say,if he doesnt deliver on the promises then well,like its said,most people dig their graves with their tongues.Just a couple of my thoughts.I also would like to give the yellowstones admin a thumbs up for showing character and seemingly being an honest person so far as i can tell.No,im not a yellowstones cheerleader,i do have an account there but i have nothing invested as of yet.My e-gold account has hit the 0.06 cents mark.lol
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Originally Posted by claudius2u
1)Did it ever occur to you that i have told people not to TAKE MY WORD FOR THIS HYIP?
2)Did it ever occure to you that i pay people the $10s from my investment in YS?
3)Did it ever occure to you that i have told all to DO their on DD, like you are doing on it right now?
4)Did it ever occure to you that i have told people that this hyip is paying now, and if they want they can take the damn $10 out now,as this program has automated payouts?
5) Did it ever occure to you that if they wish to keep their $10 in YS, then its their own responsibility?
6) Did you know that that i dont get a S**** for it, even more the referral system does not work still in this hyip. SO to you BS about me getting any extra benefit. All i say. that would have been nice, but all i get is People's good prayers for me, after i help them with $10, and dont ask anything in return for it. Maybe you should try it too. its a good feeling you know.!
6) Isent it better that you go back and lookup all my posts, or better, read my posts about this and every other program,and what i say to my members? Why are you blaming me without the propper knowledge of what i have said, and do?
What are you trying to frame me for? I dont give a damn if you did admire me, If i have a different phylosophy of life then you, like helping people in anyway i can, then what is your problem?
1. did you help these people, even if its % from your investment in a program or $$$ sitting in your account?
We all know hyips are high risk business. You better grow up from the sleep you are inn.
Its withdrawable money now. And all our dear members i give 10, can take them out now.
This is the only fact of the moment we are inn.!!!!!!
I know hyips are mostly scams. I did not ever promote any scam. I just pay people out off my own ROL in YS. NOW WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH IT?
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16-07-2006, 12:17 AM #29
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Admin your efforts are appreciated.Some will always engage in throwing stones,let them do just that.Just as you said,you are offering people money and really are not asking a dime in return.I say its the least we could do to add you to our referral downline,i would and will do it proudly.I have sent you email to ask for the 10 fund youve offered myself.I understand that youre not responsible for what we do with the money,and why should it be your responsibility if we even lost it in yellowstones.After all,you were gracious enough to give something for nothing and told us what we do with it is our own decision.We and we only bare the responsibility for either losing the 10 or turning it into more with yellowstones or any other means.Id like to just show my appreciation for the 10 fund youve offered,it is a great effort to make a little good out of the bad thats gone on lately.Thanks a million
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Originally Posted by xStylezx
Your welcome mate. Its just that when i read the comment of the "wise guys above", i must admit, it got me Pissed off.
I have been honest to my members all the time. In almost all posts i state a fear of warning. Still some "#¤%&/$ find an excuse and a small reason like his, and blame me for it. I would love to see him help anyone. Hell i will love to see him help people insted off just Throwing up (a low in) HCL + mix of his guts.
Its takes more then just words to do things. I suggest to him to do things, instead of just talking!
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