Thread: Basic answers to help you to make your DD

When it is time to make a Due Diligence on a program, some basic question appears in your mind, as:

-- Who owns the program
-- Where is it located
-- Is a phone line available?
-- Where is the money invested?

But if you look for in the "About us" in the yellowstones.net website, no information of that type appears.

But the good news is: all needed information should be published soon.

When we start a HYIP, from nothing, we cannot know wich perception of the program the futur investors will have.

Some programs with stupid and unrealisable rate get 100 000$ in 10 days, others program have to close soon because not anough investors are interested about their offers.

There are different stages in the evolution of a HYIP, and one of the most very important is a continous growing.

It is not possible to made serious investment, with a 500$ total deposit. Most of the banking opportunities that offert high rates require very high amount of money.

So we need to start, without knowing if the program will work or not.

Now Yellowstones.net is offering high returns (2,9% to 3,8%), but ANY serious investors, who know about the financial market, know that it doesn't exist any serious investment program witch is able to give this rate for the very long time.

Is that means that Yellowstones will close soon? Not at all, let me explain.

First of all, I want to appologize about my bad english. I will make my best. English is my secondery language. I know that I have no choice to learn it as it is now the second most talked language in the word after chinese. It is also the first commercial language in all the world, so if I want to have sucess in the financial market, I have to get the Shakespeare tongue.

I have 3 years of experience in the Internet financial environment. I am in the HYIP area for a long time, and at this point, my ROI (return on investment) is done. I see a lot of scam, problematic HYIPS (honest admin, but major problems of all types), and I said to myself: "Why shoudn't I try to help people to succeed, considering my experience".

This is how Yellowstones.net is born.

I have access to a lot of private and offline investment program, but the problem is always the same: to access these programs, you usually need more thant 100 000$, often 1M$, and sometimes even 10M$.

I dont have this money, and I am sure that you dont have it also.

But I know that a good HYIP program can get this money.

But we need to start! What can we do between the first dollars invested, and the 100 000$ needed to get good results?

We decide to invest in sports bets, as we have good results, and can get high return in a very quick time.
We only invest a few part of the capital (less than 30%), and it is anough to earn what we need.
But we know that this is not good for the long terme, and the risk is very very high also.

In fact, all we want, is to be able to access one or some private program where we will be able to get stable results.

Is Yellowstones will offer rates up to 3,8% all the time?
The answer is NO.

As soon as we will access a stable invest, we will ajust our rate to this program.
It shoud be around 0,5% to 1,5% working days. Maybe variable daily rates, I cannot know at this moment.

I have invested 2000$ from my personnal pocket to start the programs. That means web hosting, DDoS protection, good scripts and design.

To have a registered company, real adress and phone number, I will need near another 2000$. Before investing that amount I need to be sure that the program will have a good success.

Now we are in the beguining, in the start. It is time to see a lot of thing.
Now I know that investors trust the program. I know also that there are different bug in the script. The referal script does not work well for example. I need to test the services from the programmers team. I need to know if the anti-DDoS system is effective.

I should be able to do all these tests in the next weeks. After that, I will be able to be sure that the program is solid, that I have the tools to propuls it into the top of the listings.

And I will then publish all you need to know, as who I am, wich is the registered company, the postal adress, the phone number, and maybe the club where I invest, if I am not bounded with a non-disclosure agreement.

I have to be very honnest with you, and say that there is some risk yet. But I am working very hard to make Yellowstones.net the next most trusted and stable HYIP.

If you want to be in the first members to join, it is the time. Welcome to all, and feel free to ask any question.

On this forum there those who have lost numerous times to honest and dishonest investment schemes, HYIPs, Paid to Surf, and other "Easy Money" strategies.

We are now staring straight in the face of another possible big loss of what was supposed to be a solid company.

I, for one, am dry. I have no e-gold at all, though I might get some some time in the coming years if I get the promised refunds from 13DP, CompactSurf, HYIPeffect, PIPS, and a score of others that I thought were honest.

I am sure that the YS Admin is honest and means well. But he has already told us that the program will not likely succeed any more than any of the others that we have lost money in.

If 2.9% - 3.8% is unrealistic, why start there? If you intend to lower the rates, why don't you start with realistic rates?

Think of the psychology of the situation: Everyone is pulling their money out of any risky program now, not putting it in. The Surf-for-money programs are dying out about as fast as they spring up. The hyips are not attracting big investments, and they are failing, too.

If some people invest today, expecting to receive 3.8%, and then find they will get 1.5%, the smarter people will not stay with the program long or invest much.

I dislike writing what appears to be negative commentary about a program that I haven't even tried.

YS has every right to try to make the thing work. And I hope it does work out. But I think I speak for at least a few when I say, "I've had it with the 'Easy Money" industry..

There are better ways.

Sincerely,
Jerry

Jerry...with many more like me that shares your hesitancy & subdued reluctance, one cannot expect more in demanding better transparency with clear cut definitions to say the least...

I look forward to YS as coming clear and worthy of one that will ride high....and not lead more into the woods.

In the meantime, think and recap while enjoying Sarah on Stage...

SoS Click here & adjust your speakers

Yes Jerry is it? Good to have you recondnize rolclub as the official forum for the Site. This is a good step for our membership. After all the let downs from others. at least they can all get to know you here. To me it seems this is going to be a very large thread as we go. I can only hope that is is controled with a Professional manner and not allowed to get out of hand. Welcome again Jerry, looking foward to drilling you with it all. I am always availible thru a PM.

Will you be accepting E-Bullion? I'm not to comfortable with e-gold.


Your last name isnt Nash? Is it?

thanks, just part of my DD!

We cannot accept E-Bullion at this time as the script is not built for this.
Maybe later the programmers will have time to introduce new payments mode, after the bugs will be fixed.

My name has nothing similar to Nash.

Originally Posted by YS_Admin

We cannot accept E-Bullion at this time as the script is not built for this.
Maybe later the programmers will have time to introduce new paiements mode, after the bugs will be fixed.

My name has nothing similar to Nash.

Both these answers are good. Good call jimmymack

Originally Posted by neno

Yes Jerry is it? Good to have you recondnize rolclub as the official forum for the Site. This is a good step for our membership. After all the let downs from others. at least they can all get to know you here. To me it seems this is going to be a very large thread as we go. I can only hope that is is controled with a Professional manner and not allowed to get out of hand. Welcome again Jerry, looking foward to drilling you with it all. I am always availible thru a PM.

Thanks Neno;
I fail to see what makes Yellowstones different from others.
I got into Baltic Dividends through this site, when they had their own thread here. I got into Vasco through an ad on this site. I don't recall how I found Solid Investment or W2U or VIPinvest, but there was something credible about their websites.

Is there a pattern here? We all came to ROLClub when PIPS went down. Many of us who were in 12 Daily Pro, came here for information - though this was not an official gathering place - when it went down. As far as I can tell, just about all the money-making programs that have gotten endorsement at this site (though not necessarily by the site moderators) have gone offline very unceremoniously bringing people's money into the fiduciary cyber black hole. (This is coinage of a new term.)


I have nothing against Yellowstones except that I foresee the disappointment they are going to create down the road. This is not a prophecy, just an observation of a familiar pattern. I hope that they will conduct this as a real business, and observe business ethics, and earn the trust that people are giving them. I hope that they will break the pattern. But for the moment, I don't see how they will.

Is this a forum of people who are brought together through a common bond of failure? That is not the way we looked at it when we were PIPSTERS. Then we stayed with PIPS because we believed in something that everyone around us couldn't see.

I believe there are better ways. Ways that we can actually make money, not lose it. But we have to be winners again, and not follow every new outfit that says it can make money for us. We have to see that some of our old habits don't work in our favor, and we have to change the way we do things.

When we were in PIPS it wasn't just the money that motivated us.
Now it is. And that is kind of shallow.

I believe there are better ways, ways that we can all learn to make money online without much risk of losing money. Ways that would require a little more effort than we've gotten used to, but which would be more satisfying, and gratifying, and profitable.

I write at greater length about these issues on a Blog. If I could persuade just a million people to be more proactive and stop being taken by schemes that don't work, I will feel that I have done a good day's work.

Hello Jerry,

It seems my post went to you as it was suppose to be directed to the Y.S.*Admin of Yellowstone. My Bad as I just mistake Jerry for the Y.S.*Admin. But I must repsond to you view as I would agree to all as I am not much on Hyip's in the first Place. I am here and see all that get burnd. Thanks for stating the other that have been here before. I am and have been educated with all the past. I only hope for the future and it looks bright for "Rolclub". Not meaning Yellowstone for this at all. We have a Good *Admin in Marek that is Brainstorming with others (Mods and others) for the furutre of RC. I must say it looks promising. Yellowstone is are isnt apart of that I dont know. But you make very Valid points, and that is what I believe gives this a chance for us at drilling the Y.S.*Admin. My Bad for listing Jerry Instead Of the Y.S.*Admin. Just a reading error on my part. But I still enjoyed your view.

Originally Posted by YS_Admin

We cannot accept E-Bullion at this time as the script is not built for this.
Maybe later the programmers will have time to introduce new paiements mode, after the bugs will be fixed.

My name has nothing similar to Nash.

Thank you for your reply. Please notify this thread when/if E-Bullion becomes an option. I will be more willing to look at your program seriously at that time.

No offense, but my trust/faith/belief in ANY program admin right now is highly suspect and diminished. I have seen to many good people lied to and cheated out of their money. Am I saying you will too....no! But the track record is against you. You have a difficult mountain in front of you and I do applaude your actions (if truthful) to help others.

We shall see where YOU take this my friend. Good luck.