Thread: Some Positive New on SI

I have receieved several e-mails which indicated SI is still coming back.
pinetree.

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high friends

The notices about FBI , Interpol involvment are fakenotices.both
organisations have zero interest on SI. WHY? Because the rules,which
we all aggree, of SI and other Hyipsites locked this possibilty,also
isn t true that the accounts are frozen from some lawyers, there are
simply imposed valuelimits,for the moment, this means they can t
receive payments, but they can pay.For my part i evry was and always i
be sure that, in a few days more, SI will be back, and we will be paid.

I was scammed by Vasco, Baltic,SLI,AND E Bank, all them worked at the
same way when they have gone,but SI made it very diffrent(see the
posts of pingman,in other forum ,he wrote what i think).

And at last have a look on the official notices over the birdflue
vacunation from today,(england and belgium).
I think there was the problem with the payment.But with this notices
it will be resolved to.

rgds
pandora321
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Things will get better. I am also down in the dumps and will go back
to work. The up side I did invest in (small invests) several programs
which are moving. We can recover, we just need to go slow and pull out
quicker. I also hope SI comes back, it would be better for Sosa and
Colins anyway. Pay us something and see what happens. It makes no
sense to pay SoftLayer a grand and do nothing so things may happen anyway.
It is also odd that ecurrency is still registerd, as is SI.

Oh well, we will survive and if we keep each other updated on our
invests that work perhaps we can all get into one good one!

Joe
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pinetree

To avoid future scams, maybe what we can do collectively, is finding out an agency or government (U.S.) perhaps, who might be interested in doing something to curb these scamming groups. They can impose restrictions and laws to aprehend these officers of HYIPs and bring them to justice.

At present these people get away scottfree. Nobody makes an effort to arrest them. Nobody can get them to pay. Lawyers are not interested, unless there is a lot of money involved, or they charge a bundle and an arm.

Maybe a senator, or two, a congressman, might be a good start. They usually are the ones who can get the ball rolling if enough pressure to do so is there. Does anybody know anyone of this caliber to contact?

The problem is, we need large numbers of people standing behind such an approach to make it count. Government will only do something if large enough groups vie for something that in their sight is of value and necessary.

What do you think? How can it be done? Whom do we address this to? Who would approach them, etc, etc?

peterben

Originally Posted by peterben

To avoid future scams, maybe what we can do collectively, is finding out an agency or government (U.S.) perhaps, who might be interested in doing something to curb these scamming groups. They can impose restrictions and laws to aprehend these officers of HYIPs and bring them to justice.

At present these people get away scottfree. Nobody makes an effort to arrest them. Nobody can get them to pay. Lawyers are not interested, unless there is a lot of money involved, or they charge a bundle and an arm.

Maybe a senator, or two, a congressman, might be a good start. They usually are the ones who can get the ball rolling if enough pressure to do so is there. Does anybody know anyone of this caliber to contact?

The problem is, we need large numbers of people standing behind such an approach to make it count. Government will only do something if large enough groups vie for something that in their sight is of value and necessary.

What do you think? How can it be done? Whom do we address this to? Who would approach them, etc, etc?

peterben

Peter did you suffer a blow to the head ?

I just receieved another positive e-mail from a member of other forum.

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Cheer up.. SI will be back and stronger than ever. In my mind there
are many logical explanations as to why they went down and why they
haven't communicated with anyone.

As a person who has worked in IT the past 5 years, building and
supporting the website of a financial institution, I can say with
confidance that there is a lot of work that goes into building a
website. What I believe happened with SI is that they grew to fast and
were not prepared for it. So on payout week, the system and/or
application couldn't handle the 100,000 users clamering the site
trying to get in and so it simply crashed. They were also upgrading
their software ie the bankwire form at the same time. Technically,
they should have brought down the site completely, upgraded their
software and then brought up the site, but even then it might have
crashed as it is just one server and no redundancy ie at the bank we
had 2 servers mirroring each other so if one went down transactions
were handled by the other.

In my mind I think they are rebuilding and Sousahere has confirmed a
new website which will be private. That's why I think (my opinion) we
had to withdraw the full amount with no option to reinvest, so that
they can start again from scratch, and I guess everyone else in SP
gets converted to RP... will have to wait and see what Rafael has to
say on that.

They have a lot of work to do and when they are good and ready they
will be back. There are flaws that need to be corrected, besides
technical I think accounting too.

To me, if I were in Sousa shoes on the day the servers crashed, I
wouldnt have bothered to send a message to say "payments will be
processed and errors correct". I would have said to hell with this
crap and gone.

As to why they brought down the EC forum, well you've seen all the
stuff people have been writing and accusing them of. Again, if I am
trying to resolve issues, I want peace and quiet to be able to do this
not to be constantanly hounded with questions and accusations and
worry about everyones reaction. At the bank, the technical staff never
got involved with dealing with the public when there was an outage, it
was our directors and VP's who handled all that, we just had to work
our butts of to bring the site back up. With SI it is only Sam and
Rafael, I think it was a bit much for them. To prove my point,
"Sousahere" has given us some information, but folks are never
satisfied they want more and more.. and more and the speculation never
ends and it's mostly negative.

So let's give them a chance to come back clean and more SOLID than ever.

I for some reason cannot believe they are criminals. We have to be
patient and pray and have faith.

goldie21
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pinetree

I just receieved another e-mail re: FBI and SI. Looks like all the prev ious reports re:FBI involvements were "not true"
pinetree

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Recently, I have been in contact with a retired FBI agent. He was
employed in the Bureau's Banking Frauds Division. I asked him some
question regarding any possible FBI investigation into Solid
Investment.

Therefore, since this message is coming from someone using an
anonymous name and since it is hearsay, I strongly urge everyone,
who reads this, to contact someone at the FBI and get the story for
themselves. So, please don't shoot the messenger.

I asked him what steps the FBI might take in a case like Solid
Investment. He replied that many, many companies, with Internet
sites, go off line for various reasons, only to later return.
He illustrated this remark by citing the example of Bank Of America
and other banks. He said that, a few years ago, Bank Of America went
off line for about two and a half weeks. His department received
hundreds of complaints that the bank had stolen their funds.

He said this is what the Bureau does in cases like this. When a
complaint comes in, an agent is assigned to check it out. The first
thing they do is to contact the source to determine what the problem
might be. In BOA's case, they checked and found out that their
servers were off line for technical reasons and that they would be
back on line shortly. The agent noted this and placed his report in
an investigation file. Then, the agent watched the Internet to see
if BOA's site came back up. When it did, the investigation was
quietly closed. This was the extent of the investigation. Nothing
more.

When I asked him about SI, he said the Bureau is not going to launch
a broad, intensive investigation into anything of this type until
they were absolutely sure that there was a crime, or there was an
intent to commit a crime. And this could not be determined until a
respectful amount of time had elapsed from the date the servers went
off line. The Bureau has to justify its time, not only to FBI's
superiors, but to the Justice Department and Congress. The
Department of Justice operates on convictions and they are not happy
when the FBI wastes time on investigations that do not achieve
results.

The FBI has to generate an annual report to Congress regarding its
effectiveness and procedures. As a result, agents, who do not
perform as required, are sometimes reprimanded.

I asked him about the report that SI's E-Gold accounts had been
frozen. He replied that it seems very questionable that E-Gold would
freeze any accounts when it appeared that no crime had yet been
committed. E-Gold's corporate registration is on the British West
Indies island of Nevis, a noted tax haven, and holds actual
ownership of G&SR's gold and other metals. Two Bermuda-based lawyers
at the firm of Mello, Hollis, Jones & Martin, serve as trustees for
E-Gold Ltd. The gold is physically held by independent companies in
Canada and Switzerland.

As a result, he said that whoever wanted to freeze E-Gold accounts
would have to file with the courts in Nevis and clearly demonstrate
that there is evidence that a crime had been committed or that there
was an intent to commit one. United States courts have no personal
or subject matter jurisdiction in Nevis. Therefore, a U.S. court
order would have no weight whatsoever in this situation.

In his opinion, it would be rather doubtful that anyone was able to
freeze SI's accounts at E-Gold due to the jurisdictional problem and
since not enough time has elapsed to establish a clear intention to
defraud. Under these circumstances, E-Gold would probably simply
ignore the whole situation if it was asked to freeze accounts.

In addition, Nevis is a financial country, with no other sources of
income other than offering financial and tax saving benefits to off
shore companies. It simply is not going to rock the boat with
companies, incorporated within its jurisdiction, just to satisfy
some nervous nellies who have no legal standing to do so.

Taking ones servers off line is not prima facie evidence of a crime,
nor it is any indication of an intent to commit a crime. The FBI
investigation story surfaced about one week after SI's servers went
off line. Therefore, it seems very unlikely, in the space of one
week, that a far reaching, broad, intensive FBI investigation was
launched into SI taking its servers off line, as has been reported
on various sites on the Internet.

Originally posted by Ping... unlike certain mods on other forums, I
give credit to the originator whenever known! LOL
best ;)
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pinetree

flockstar, thank you, but, why such an accusatory, yet unsubstantiated remark?

peterben

thanks pinetree for sharing these wonderful message...

Originally Posted by peterben

flockstar, thank you, but, why such an accusatory, yet unsubstantiated remark?

peterben

Just curious as to why you post as you do and I have experiance dealing with effects of head trauma

I'm not fluent in I.d.i.o.t, so please speak slowly and clearly

Originally Posted by flockstar

I'm not fluent in I.d.i.o.t, so please speak slowly and clearly

fLOCKSTER

Actually it does appear that you are fluent in I.D.I.O.T. so go with the flow.