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    I guess it'll be like ....from Coast to Coast...row, row... rowing gently down the stream


    I hope the current will swerve them BNM yacht team this way soon... and not mistake the Rotterdam port for the Southampton one...

    Yeah... us first... and we shall recommend them to drive through the tunnel once they land our shores and gathered the facts from us

    The fact now shows, it takes awhile to follow through and to catch up with all involved... but wait we shall I and I hope their detective work delivers the corroborated answers they seek as alleged by the courts to make the case stick!


    YB. cheers to all patiently waiting, grinning and whining with their glasses ...

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    The 3 Mil only is because that part of the crime was done through EON bank which is within the malaysian jurisdiction.. But you are right, the big question is where all the other money has gone. What happened with the "companies" Pic Capital, PIC Bistro, fashion etc.. Also, what happened with the gold storage in New Zealand and Australia..?

    Probably gone up in smoke, well, at least WE.. former PIPS members, will probably not see one cent of it ever again... At least I do not count on it.

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    I for One believe there is much more to this story than has been told or will ever be told.

    When there is as much money that is involved....the amount that is being discussed $3 million is just from a specific time and is only a very small amount of money that was in PIPS.(this is meant to confuse & misinform us into believing that was all that is involved here it seems)

    This is only what the dollar amount(3 million) charges brought against Bryan & Sharon Marsden as related to Picpay transactions, which appear to be improper,currently are if I understand this properly.

    Wake Up people!!! ....You better get your info from more than your local newspaper!!!

    Don't buy into what some people would want you to believe for their own reasons & agenda...

    The truth(at least part of it) will come out at the TRIAL & this is WHY BRIAN WANTS to GO TO TRIAL!!!

    Don't minimize this as a 3 Million dollar Financial blunder*****that is BS!!!

    There is more there....Substantially more... & everyone that has half a Walnut of a brain knows that IF YOU HIDE THE MONEY & MINIMIZE THE CRIME into a MINOR EVENT...the buzz will go away & the PRESS WILL TOO!!!

    WHAT DOES THIS MEAN???

    YOU TELL ME!!! USE YOUR HEADS PEOPLE...
    DON'T PAY FOR BAD INFORMATION!!!

    DEMAND TO SEE TRANSCRIPTS FROM THE TRIAL!!!
    DEMAND THAT THERE ARE TRANSCRIPTS!!!!

    ALOT OF MONEY IS MISSING HERE!
    THE CENTRAL BANK OF MALAYSIA IS INVOLVED!
    PAYOFF!!! ....CORRUPTION.....SPIN>>>....FROM WITHIN

    What am I talking about....Well...The masses fall in line & people tell their stories & change their tunes to suit themselves.

    SAY this post is rediculous but I am just trying to get you to use your own mind...rather than just Thank the Leaders & pat them on the back with Thank You's.

    WE WILL SEE WHAT REALLY IS UP AT THE TRIAL...as far as ROLCLUB/TALKGOLD goes...(what are you doing to help people get their money back or really find out what BRYAN meant when he said IT ISN't REALL TRUE UNLESS IT COMES FROM HIM?...HE HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF SOMETHING...HAS HE BEEN FOUND GUILTY YET?

    I WOULD HOPE IF YOU OR I were accused of a crime we would get our day in court.The Max sentence is 5 yrs-doesn't sound too serious does it?

    I don't know about Malaysian Law but in the USA if 5 yrs was the Maximum sentence a prosecuter could bring against you(I think you can get that by urinating on a tree in a public park while singing Disco songs to Tourists in Iambic Pentameter) then even if you are sentenced for 5 yrs ,you could be out in 2 with good behavior...

    If you think this was sent in bad taste I apologize but GET READY because I believe the BEST IS YET TO COME!!!!!

    Mike from Clearwater,Fl.USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by justlooking View Post
    The 3 Mil only is because that part of the crime was done through EON bank which is within the malaysian jurisdiction.. But you are right, the big question is where all the other money has gone. What happened with the "companies" Pic Capital, PIC Bistro, fashion etc.. Also, what happened with the gold storage in New Zealand and Australia..?

    Probably gone up in smoke, well, at least WE.. former PIPS members, will probably not see one cent of it ever again... At least I do not count on it.

    Just
    Pic capital appears to be a dormant company,Bistro is closed down as are all others, except fashion and the Bible project.These appear to be seperate entities.

    As for the gold and insurances, it remains to be seen if they exist, or if they do, can supply sufficient funds to repay members withdrawals.

    I wouldn't count on anything either

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    As the floods recede gradually too in southern Malaysia, as well as in Indonesia, perhaps the case would rise again...when? That depends on what further developments are brought up in his (dis)favour or not but it all rest with the State Prosecutor, iow.... left in the hands of the Malaysian Law.

    RC and certainly TG...of all associations to BM... could do NOTHING at any stage but stay aloof and awake in sharing the latest news coming out from either the press or official Govt. Journals and next to that, hopefully Batty can get his hands on either with some translation as well.

    Whatever happens as a result, it sure won't flood Malaysian Media as we would expect... but some low profile mention it certainly will get somehow.

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    Interesting,

    This is shaping up as the typical cop a plea, no trial, no jury, private settlement, so there is likely not going to be any information released other than how many years in prison they each get. With over a hundred charges brought against Bryan and Sharon, with more developing, there is no way any attorney would recommend they go to trial.

    The proof is overwhelming, to say the least, and with all the lies, the claims of being licensed and registered, the investments, gold, properties, etc., there is no way in hell they will ever get off with less than 10 years, so why waste the time and money to go to trial. I am sure the court appointed lawyer is not going to want to see this go to trial either given the overwhelming volume of charges. If you were facing this many charges at up to 5 years each, you would cop a plea and take the 10 years too. This is the best case scenario as I see it.

    Good luck to all, Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com View Post
    Interesting,

    This is shaping up as the typical cop a plea, no trial, no jury, private settlement, so there is likely not going to be any information released other than how many years in prison they each get. With over a hundred charges brought against Bryan and Sharon, with more developing, there is no way any attorney would recommend they go to trial.

    The proof is overwhelming, to say the least, and with all the lies, the claims of being licensed and registered, the investments, gold, properties, etc., there is no way in hell they will ever get off with less than 10 years, so why waste the time and money to go to trial. I am sure the court appointed lawyer is not going to want to see this go to trial either given the overwhelming volume of charges. If you were facing this many charges at up to 5 years each, you would cop a plea and take the 10 years too. This is the best case scenario as I see it.

    Good luck to all, Mike


    You are for sure most talented person when comes to SPECULATIONS.

    Nothing is proved yet. NOTHING .

    Why not wait for court make decision, instead just posting assumptions. Readers here are sick of repetitive statements like yours and others like yours. Just plain SPECULATIONS.

    Please, just stay cool and wait. You would at least look more intelligent.

    Have a nice weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by chin-lee View Post


    You are for sure most talented person when comes to SPECULATIONS.

    Nothing is proved yet. NOTHING .

    Why not wait for court make decision, instead just posting assumptions. Readers here are sick of repetitive statements like yours and others like yours. Just plain SPECULATIONS.

    Please, just stay cool and wait. You would at least look more intelligent.

    Have a nice weekend

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    Well, the Prosecutor PROVED he had enough evidence to make the charges stick and for BM and Sharon to demand a trial. He had enough PROOF to add more charges after the arrest. He had enough PROOF that they are trying their best to get a deal. Guess the Prosecutor PROVED he had the PROOF now didn't he.

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    I tink, says paddy, that it does,nt take much in the way of evidence to drag anyone into a court.A clever defence barrister can soon refute any allegations of wrong doing and an even cleverer one can dispute and argue every charge untill the court relents and gives some leeway in the hope that the judge has not reached retirement age before the case is closed :).
    Many of these multiple indictments which follow a common pattern in the charges brought before a person or entity are more often than not, ironed out in the judges chambers, where frivilous matter is discarded to save court time and many charges are in fact dropped when both sides present equally strong arguments. All we know is what we have read, and equally meaningless, since fraud has not actually been mentioned anywhere, and money laundering takes me back a year when a very dear old lady from New York relayed the trouble she had when she withdrew $10,000 to place a deposit on a house for her nephew from a bank account she had held for 37 years. Her language was typical NY and made even me blush as she went on about the ABC police and bank officials almost dragging her into court over that one withdrawal.
    Its a sad fact that we are watched so carefully for our own protection!!!
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    Sorry Paddy,

    Money laundering is fraud, as in felony charges, as in serious, as in 5 years on each count, never mind fines, so with over a hundred such fraud counts, there is no way a few won't stick.

    Good luck to all, Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com View Post
    Sorry Paddy,

    Money laundering is fraud, as in felony charges, as in serious, as in 5 years on each count, never mind fines, so with over a hundred such fraud counts, there is no way a few won't stick.

    Good luck to all, Mike
    After a years investigation BNM saw fit to bring charges of money laundering and illegal deposit taking.There are some here who would suggest that these charges are meaningless.Obviously the Malaysian prosecution office does not agree.

    The silence to me means a deal is in the making.That of course is speculation,but we will see.
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