Thread: Updates on BM & PIPS Refund, Claims & Payouts

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How long is the trial expected to last....days, weeks, or even longer??
What is your wish for the trial outcome? I'm just curious. This site
always seemed to be anti pips, so, I'm wondering if the report will be
unbiased??
Brenda

Originally Posted by prefershop

How long is the trial expected to last....days, weeks, or even longer??
What is your wish for the trial outcome? I'm just curious. This site
always seemed to be anti pips, so, I'm wondering if the report will be
unbiased??
Brenda

Its tempting to take offense or be invited to feel that way... which your opinion already is pre conceived and ready to stir.

Funny thing and interestingly enough is the fact that many, (and one can rightfully dispute easily on it) who were scammed or felt that they were devastatingly duped, had more reasons to see the truth coming out of it to prove themselves right in either seeing justice served and many unanswered questions resolved through this trial.

Who knows... they may just be wrong all along... what a field day that would be to celebrate wouldn't it and that is something worth looking for... so there's money to be claimed and collected... again, a mighty BIG wishful thinking if one were to put Sense against CENTS on the table and the right color will prove the other wrong without a shadow of doubt when the Malaysian trial is over.

Now, on the other hand, those that thought otherwise, and still does till today... are equally adamant to see some truth to quell all speculations aside...once and for all and why shouldn't it?

Now, just where do you stand in between and what are you doing about it than just just to express it as, an unbias (or is it, for your part???) assignment on all the efforts we have gone through to come to this point in time?

I think and believe, the more you stay active and try to think fairly and sincerely since the Marsdens were taken into custody... you would and is expected that you should, think more along the lines of not whether he is guilty or isn't, but more about where has the money, the so called millions of invested $$$$$$s have been slushed to... and just how much can you see some returned (even that is a wishful thinking) as a result of this trial now about to seriously take course for a closure someday soon.

Just where does this bias fear you made it out to be to have a place or influence on the outcome??? How do you fit in that argument or logic which you are trying to add in???

I'm sure, there are many who stayed close to the developments... and who are seriously in doubt too for the better word, on either side of the Marsdens guilt or innocence, would agree that your hint on using the term "bias" is quite and totally out of context and far from being in perspective.

Anyway, I hope you can contribute to a better logic in future with your potential bias assumption over our independent coverage....


YB.

It appears, Donors are in for their patience, support and genuine donations received so far to be in for all that is worth supporting this Fund!!!

I anticipate a few pages!!! Batty is rolling out with his coverage!!! Good job Batty!!! Donors will be utterly happy, sad too as always but this has finally begun... yes. we had waited long enough...

We have waited even longer for more members to humbly step forward to support this long trial which is to be anticipated.

Its already VERY interesting so far and Batty isn't finished summarizing yet??!!!

I sincerely wish to remind all of you, that whoever receives the coverage mailed out from this trial news gathered before the weekend... to be respectful & honorable in your judgment and not to let it be leaked, on your account, to other parties that DO NOT deserve what you did with pride and justification, with your donation to secure these trial coverage that is soon heading your way.... You deserve it, you did what is right to do and why can't the other person do likewise, it is incredibly unbelievable that they continue to claim even $2,50 is beyond their means while Internetting since 2006 which costs so much more, is unattainable...

Thank you and hang on in there for the rest of you kind Donors... you will get to hear, read and be astounded sooner than my adrenaline can hold out and before the next lengthy trial again resumes... this much you can assure yourself of for certain.

We need more funds.... please.

YB.

Originally Posted by prefershop

How long is the trial expected to last....days, weeks, or even longer??
What is your wish for the trial outcome? I'm just curious. This site
always seemed to be anti pips, so, I'm wondering if the report will be
unbiased??
Brenda

Why is the length of the trial your concern? If it stretches for days, weeks, or even longer what are you prepared to do about it? Well, I don't know how long the trial would take, hopefully not longer than it should. And anybody who has "invested" in PIPS will surely want a favourable outcome, but no amount of wishing bad on BM and his wife is going to bring about a guilty verdict. So what do you aim to prove?

Anti-Pips? Is that so, then you expect a biased reporting and that will do what exactly to the trial? We have no say over the judicial process, the world is full of news papers reporting bias news, truth will ultimately prevail. So let due process run its course, and we'll continue to bring you news as it unfolds. Unless it is your intention to stop us from doing so.

We are just bringing the news, the Admins will run the show and the members will play their part in supporting. I am just there to gather what information I can.

theBat$

Originally Posted by YogiBrood

Its tempting to take offense or be invited to feel that way... which your opinion already is pre conceived and ready to stir.

Funny thing and interestingly enough is the fact that many, (and one can rightfully dispute easily on it) who were scammed or felt that they were devastatingly duped, had more reasons to see the truth coming out of it to prove themselves right in either seeing justice served and many unanswered questions resolved through this trial.

Who knows... they may just be wrong all along... what a field day that would be to celebrate wouldn't it and that is something worth looking for... so there's money to be claimed and collected... again, a mighty BIG wishful thinking if one were to put Sense against CENTS on the table and the right color will prove the other wrong without a shadow of doubt when the Malaysian trial is over.

Now, on the other hand, those that thought otherwise, and still does till today... are equally adamant to see some truth to quell all speculations aside...once and for all and why shouldn't it?

Now, just where do you stand in between and what are you doing about it than just just to express it as, an unbias (or is it, for your part???) assignment on all the efforts we have gone through to come to this point in time?

I think and believe, the more you stay active and try to think fairly and sincerely since the Marsdens were taken into custody... you would and is expected that you should, think more along the lines of not whether he is guilty or isn't, but more about where has the money, the so called millions of invested $$$$$$s have been slushed to... and just how much can you see some returned (even that is a wishful thinking) as a result of this trial now about to seriously take course for a closure someday soon.

Just where does this bias fear you made it out to be to have a place or influence on the outcome??? How do you fit in that argument or logic which you are trying to add in???

I'm sure, there are many who stayed close to the developments... and who are seriously in doubt too for the better word, on either side of the Marsdens guilt or innocence, would agree that your hint on using the term "bias" is quite and totally out of context and far from being in perspective.

Anyway, I hope you can contribute to a better logic in future with your potential bias assumption over our independent coverage....


YB.

I only want to read the truth about the trial. Whether I like it or not.... I can handle the truth. What I don't like is the cynicism and twists you inject in your posts. This is what tells me you are not without judgement, before the trial has barely begun. This is why I ask,
if the report about the trial will be without bias. Remember that Bryan and Sharon have been in jail for 2 years already. As I see it, they have served a sentence without being proven to be guilty. You are only concerned about the money. Never mind that they
have lived 2 hellish years incarcerated and possibly have not even committed a crime. I say, please let us read the facts and only the facts. Please leave out your innuendos and commentary. We can read and decide for ourselves.

Originally Posted by prefershop

I only want to read the truth about the trial. Whether I like it or not.... I can handle the truth. What I don't like is the cynicism and twists you inject in your posts. This is what tells me you are not without judgement, before the trial has barely begun. This is why I ask,
if the report about the trial will be without bias. Remember that Bryan and Sharon have been in jail for 2 years already. As I see it, they have served a sentence without being proven to be guilty. You are only concerned about the money. Never mind that they
have lived 2 hellish years incarcerated and possibly have not even committed a crime. I say, please let us read the facts and only the facts. Please leave out your innuendos and commentary. We can read and decide for ourselves.

I believe it is more a matter of money to you than truth....

C'mon... be bold enough to admit it.

As for me... maybe I have lost less than you... sayyy, in the region of $20K Euros... is that more or far less than you had recuperated and am still able to set aside time and contribute helping the members achieve what ever news is left on accumulating???

Oh btw... I was also prepared and went on record... to say farewell to my lost sum as early as Fall of 2006 as a goodbye gift to the Marsdens.... have you omitted or made any open or public statement, contrary to your factual assumptions (in contrast to what you want others to assume on your outspoken hideous post made earlier) beliefs by that level expressed and thereby... as a staunch believer of seeing what truth and justice is all about? Not withstanding to have stood shoulder to shoulder (or not at all either from day one) in positively helping or provide further funds to prove your "actual" support for them...?

I'm not questioning "your" ulterior motives here... but you sure don't come away genuine with your concerns... but that is you... lets not spoil the nice Monday we have for today....!!!

YB.

Originally Posted by prefershop

I only want to read the truth about the trial. Whether I like it or not.... .

If it wasn't for the support of the members both big and small alike, the dedication of Admin and Yogi. You'd had nothing to read about. Think about it.

theBat$

Originally Posted by prefershop

I only want to read the truth about the trial. Whether I like it or not.... I can handle the truth. What I don't like is the cynicism and twists you inject in your posts. This is what tells me you are not without judgement, before the trial has barely begun. This is why I ask,
if the report about the trial will be without bias. Remember that Bryan and Sharon have been in jail for 2 years already. As I see it, they have served a sentence without being proven to be guilty. You are only concerned about the money. Never mind that they
have lived 2 hellish years incarcerated and possibly have not even committed a crime. I say, please let us read the facts and only the facts. Please leave out your innuendos and commentary. We can read and decide for ourselves.

Please please don't come down so on the very people who are committed to the truth and fact finding, for I see no others who are willing or able to get the information first hand as the dedicated ones in this group. You are not without innuendo, cynicism, commentary and twist in your own post and your own views.

You say "possibly have not even commited a crime", well possibly not and possibly yes...thus the need for fact finding.

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