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GOONERUNO
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H E L P.........
Originally Posted by Owen Platt
Along with a group of investors, I shall be meeting with the Director of Investigation for Bank Negara in London on the 12th. and 13th. of next month.
His confirmation of the meeting included the following:

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Let me reiterate that the Central Bank view this matter as Serious Offence. The CB is currently investigating the matter and will charge the suspect once we could established the facts of this case. My Deputy, will contact you for our appointment at our London Rep office. In any case you may call me at my london office from 4-13 Sept. Your contact person in London is XXXXXX or Mr YYYYY. In the mean time I hope that you gather the relevant documents to support this case.

I would like to talk the other investors if you could arrange duing my trip to London. Pls provide to Mr JZZZZ the details of the other investor. I will be available only on the 12 and 13 Sept.

UNQUOTE......................WOULD you please tell me the location of this meeting,, if it really exists as would like to be there and put my case forward,,,i have printouts of all my picpay money pending, which i`m sure they would be interested in....


Old Yesterday, 08:46 PM #32
Lotsofjazz
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Originally Posted by GOONERUNO
STRANGE

Kamari Zaman Juhari
I HAVE EMAILED THIS SO CALLED INVESTIGATOR 7 TIMES BUT HAVE STILL TO RECIEVE A RETURN EMAIL FROM HIM,, I HAVE MORE MONEY INVESTED IN PIPS THAN MOST AND HAVE NEVER RECIEVED ANYTHING,, I MENTIONED THE AMOUNT IN MY EMAILS,,IT SEEMS VERY STRANGE THAT THIS PERSON CHOOSES TO IGNORE ME,,AND YET GET IN CONTACT WITH MR.OWEN PLATT ,,A NON PIPS MEMBER...TOTAL CRAP I THINK....
Gooneruno, please give the man a bit of time.. After this smart guy Owen Platt posted kamariza's email address on every forum he could get, Kamariza must have been FLOODED with hundreds of emails, of which 90% will be spam about real scam's. It will be a days task to sift through all these emails and find yours. Great chance it has been deleted, also because you sent it multiple times and therefore might be considered spam.

He, Owen, sure makes himself hated, at Bank Negara by having done this. I dont think he will be taken seriously anymore, if that meeting will be held, which is ver questionable.

We all know rule number one.. NEVER post your,let alone someone elses, email address in public forums like this, it will cause your email address to be flooded with spam!.. Software excists to scan these forums for email addresses, which then be used for spam. Especially these HYIP forums are target for these spammers, because there the greedy people are found that are open for putting money in the next gold game.

Lots


Old Yesterday, 08:50 PM #33
GOONERUNO
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Oh, why does bank Negara not know who this is,,i spoke to them about it...


Old Yesterday, 08:59 PM #34
Lotsofjazz
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Owen Platt is most probably not his real name. Did you talk to them about that meeting as well? will it be held, and if so, were you invited?

Lots


Old Yesterday, 09:02 PM #35
desperado
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Unhappy Doubtful???
It's doubtful that any such meeting is actually going to take place or that Mr. Platt would be involved. He has no standing in the matter and is just some wouldbe writer trying to make a name for himself.
When it's convienient for him he is probably buds with the guy who thanked him on his website but now that there are inconsistancies in that guys stories he's distancing himself.
I doubt any real investor will ever be given the location of this alledged meeting and really doubt that the central bank would send someone to London as there is plenty of evidence to be had right there in malaysia!!
Just more attention drawing by some very needy individuals!!
Regards
Paul


Old Yesterday, 09:04 PM #36
GOONERUNO
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You misunderstood me,,i was not refering to Mr platt ,,they had not heard of the investigator or any meeting in London for that matter,,,very very strange


Old Yesterday, 09:16 PM #37
Lotsofjazz
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Ok, so you just confirmed mr Platt is a notorious liar!! Very good!

A Director, of whetever department would certainly be known by anybody who works with the bank negara of malaysia.

Lots


Old Today, 04:09 AM #38
pheonixrising
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I think you guys are on to something:
They both have 29 post
They both post about the same time everyday which would usually meant that they are in the same timezone
they both posted that they have meetings with investigators with who neither can be authenticated

I wonder if they know each other, mmmm! Last time owen posted and other ridiculed his post he had others come in to support him by ridiculeing his advisaries. This seems to be a new ploy, have someone else come in and say basically the same stuff, I have a meeting with authorities!

Could mrdome(possibley an annogram for MrDoom) be in cahoots with Owen or possibly Owen himself? Either way due to your efforts we now know them to be liars! Oh, I forgot, we already knew that about owen, but he always seems to get a few newones hooked on his tales, save them for the book owen!


Old Today, 11:08 AM #39
Glenn
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I'm just going to sit back and let the investigation take it's course. Trying to prove or disprove all the garbage that is posted all over the place is useless. We'll see what happens in September.
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"What If And Why Not" Instead Of It Can't Or It Won't"

Glenn


Old Today, 02:58 PM #40
mrdome
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I HAVE EMAILED THIS SO CALLED INVESTIGATOR 7 TIMES BUT HAVE STILL TO RECIEVE A RETURN EMAIL FROM HIM,, I HAVE MORE MONEY INVESTED IN PIPS THAN MOST AND HAVE NEVER RECIEVED ANYTHING,, I MENTIONED THE AMOUNT IN MY EMAILS,,IT SEEMS VERY STRANGE THAT THIS PERSON CHOOSES TO IGNORE ME,,AND YET GET IN CONTACT WITH MR.OWEN PLATT ,,A NON PIPS MEMBER...TOTAL CRAP I THINK....
Gooneruno,

pm Owen and he will put you in touch with the person who is organizing the appointments and collection of evidence with Bank Negara in London.

Cheers.


mrdome
Member
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Could mrdome (possibley an annogram for MrDoom) be in cahoots with Owen or possibly Owen himself?
When I first started posting here people said I was dogman, now I'm Owen. I do not have multiple personalities. mrdome is the nickname I was given in the building I lived in in BKK.
Owen and I both live in the same time zone in Europe but in different countries, I tend to agree with him since he comes across as a level headed guy, and that's where the similarities end.

Either way due to your efforts we now know them to be liars!
Where did I lie, phoenix?

It is a folly to assume (again that word) they will answer everyone's email within a few days.

Boy, our little trip next month is certainly stirring up a lot of dust. That never happened to any of mine before. In late May I went to Ireland for the first time f. e. and the world plain didn't care.

Old Today, 04:34 PM #42
GOONERUNO
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I already have emailed the "organiser" twice but my emails are unanswered.....i wonder why ? Please dont try to tell me he is inundated with emails and it will take time to get to mine,, if this was a proper investigation they would be opening all emails sent from pips members asap to gather as much evidence before the meeting,,,


Old Today, 06:10 PM #43
pheonixrising
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Originally Posted by mrdome
Gooneruno,

pm Owen and he will put you in touch with the person who is organizing the appointments and collection of evidence with Bank Negara in London.

Cheers.
Right, Wink, Nod!

I am not sure if you have read the whole thread but they have already attempted to contact the ones Owen gave them and even called and nobody has heard of them! How about yours?


Old Today, 06:19 PM #44
wakas
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aint going to work owens a jerk ,aint going to work owens a jerk ,aint going to work owens a jerk about time someone said something about this fraud
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HYIPOOL
you can change a mans signature but you cant change his soul


Old Today, 06:39 PM #45
pheonixrising
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Originally Posted by wakas
aint going to work owens a jerk ,aint going to work owens a jerk ,aint going to work owens a jerk about time someone said something about this fraud
Feel free to enlighten us more, for the benefit of the masses!


Old Today, 07:40 PM #46
Owen Platt
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Gooneruno, I sent you a PM but you have not responded. I have asked nemesis2 if he has received your E-Mail. What name did you send it under? He will not respond if you are using an assumed name.


Old Today, 07:42 PM #47
mrdome
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I am not sure if you have read the whole thread but they have already attempted to contact the ones Owen gave them
Yes, I read the whole thread. I am in almost daily contact with the organizer and already spoke to him on the phone. That's what made me book my (cheap) flight in the first place. I will pm Gooneruno and we shall continue this in private. Consider the matter settled.


Old Today, 07:44 PM #48
wakas
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Ok i had a friend who is in malasyia and has contacts in the banking sector ask around regarding the pips problem just to get a clear true idea , i had told him to lookit up a week ago and he back back to me with this

when he asked the bank public relatin officer(not one of his contacts)he first refused to give out any info becuase he said "that all banking investigations and matter are kept secret until they are to be released to the media and public " he asked that if they (state bank) investigated internet scams he was advised to visit there site and look this up

this is from there web site
Bank Negara Malaysia is the central bank for Malaysia. It was established on 26 January 1959, under the Central Bank of Malaya Ordinance, 1958, with the following objectives:

1)To issue currency and keep reserves safeguarding the value of the currency;
2)To act as a banker and financial adviser to the Government;
3)To promote monetary stability and a sound financial structure; and
4)To influence the credit situation to the advantage of the country
my conatct then went straight to his contacts and asked around they themselves had no idea , a reason was that they were not involved in the so called investigation and they had not heard of anything , one contact that had some advise said

" there is a posibiltiy that they are being investigated for money laundering because recently alot of raid have occured on money launderers and that it was the first time he had heard the bank taking action against a online investment for fraud "

he then gave him a copy that i was faxed alot of you can also find this on there site

The AMLA, which came into force on 15 January 2002 criminalises money laundering of proceeds from the predicate offences and provides for suspicious transaction reporting, record-keeping and the functions of a financial intelligence unit that could co-operate with domestic as well as foreign enforcement agencies. In this respect, the Minister of Finance has appointed Bank Negara Malaysia as the competent authority to carry out the functions of the financial intelligence unit. The law also provides for investigation into money laundering activities, law enforcement agencies to freeze, sThe AMLA, which came into force on 15 January 2002 criminalises money laundering of proceeds from the predicate offences and provides for suspicious transaction reporting, record-keeping and the functions of a financial intelligence unit that could co-operate with domestic as well as foreign enforcement agencies. In this respect, the Minister of Finance has appointe d Bank Negara Malaysia as the competent authority to carry out the functions of the financial intelligence unit. The law also provides for investigation into money laundering activities, law enforcement agencies to freeze, seize and forfeit proceeds from predicate offences as well as prosecution of money launderers. eize and forfeit proceeds from predicate offences as well as prosecution of money launderers.
there is a chance that what owen platt is doing is rubbing alot of you in the wrong way there amla (anti money laundering act ) is a 70 page fax i only got a few and they are mainly outlines you can get the full copy online but it is no use . all i advice you to do is until you dont get an offical invite dont go off like a stupid ***** trying to save the pips , if the central bank has invited you i am sure they would have been genrous enought to have paid youy traveling allowance .

wakas
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HYIPOOL
you can change a mans signature but you cant change his soul


Old Today, 07:55 PM #49
mrdome
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...dont go off like a stupid ***** trying to save the pips
The consultants' answers paint the picture of a company with serious cash flow problems, cash eating businesses, no possibility of merchant orders being honored and no chance in the near to mid-future to pay any WDs.
This plus Warren's alarming statements leads me to believe imho that there is not much that could be saved.
And who should do the saving anyway?


Old Today, 08:00 PM #50
pheonixrising
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Originally Posted by Owen Platt
Gooneruno, I sent you a PM but you have not responded. I have asked nemesis2 if he has received your E-Mail. What name did you send it under? He will not respond if you are using an assumed name.
Oh, you mean nemesis2 is his real name? lol He won't respond if you use an assumed name,but he doesn't want you to know who he is right!
Isn't that a double standard, why wouldn't he allow Gooneruno's identity be as secure as Nemesis2's.

lol,boyoboyo, lol


Today, 08:12 PM #51
Owen Platt
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That's reasonable. But I suggest he either contacts me or Mrdome who is in touch with him to resolve the problem.


Old Today, 08:18 PM #52
Owen Platt
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Just got this response from Nemesis2:

hi
nobody has emailed me twice at safe-mail and nobody has pm'd me twice on talkgold


Old Today, 08:18 PM #53
pheonixrising
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Originally Posted by mrdome
The consultants' answers paint the picture of a company with serious cash flow problems, cash eating businesses, no possibility of merchant orders being honored and no chance in the near to mid-future to pay any WDs.
This plus Warren's alarming statements leads me to believe imho that there is not much that could be saved.
And who should do the saving anyway?
Maybe you missed the comments from more reliable sources saying that both post you refer to were fraudulent and reported not to have come from the consultants nor Warren!
and i can assure you of one thing, if it is gone, it is gone and no amount of postureing will enable anyone to recoup any funds, no matter who you meet with!
I don't mean to give you a hard time but I got to stop and say this:

You nor anyone else will be able to furnish them with info they do not already have. They have the servers. It is all on there and more info that you could provide. pip's had no time to erase or hide anything and had no intention of doing so.
The only purpose of what you and Owen say you are doing is to further your own hidden agenda, whether it be to try to get your names in light or at the head of the list of lossee's.
Owens only purpose is to get his name in so that he can hopefully get access to information he wants to write another book so he can make money off the pip's members, he has no money invested. He goes on to say that he has friends who do have money involved but clearly this is a case where he is using his so called notariety to further his own agenda.
So far it seems your only agenda could be to get your name to the top of the list in the event that pip's bottoms out. If any payouts are done in any amount it will be structured, I am sure to benefit those who had losses with no withdrawals first and more than likely at a prorated rate based on shares verses value.
If you don't know what I mean by that then here is an explanation:
Any funds will be divided equally by the total # of shares giving each a par value. Then processed to all evenly. I have friends who have over a million dollars in their pip's account but he knows that the amount can change but the shares will stay the same.
Nothing you or Owen does will change that and all of you chest beating and thumping leads the serious investors to believe that all you are doing is grandstanding. If I am wrong than let me hear from some of the serious investors who feel otherwise,
and owen doesn't count as he has no investment in pip's other than his book!


Old Today, 08:23 PM #54
investright
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By reading posts here, I noticed that Owen does not respond to intelligent questions and remarks.

If he would have any creditability he would respond , but no, he respond only to once that are ready to make complaint, and cry babies with ignorance.


Old Today, 08:26 PM #55
pheonixrising
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Originally Posted by Owen Platt
Just got this response from Nemesis2:

hi
nobody has emailed me twice at safe-mail and nobody has pm'd me twice on talkgold
Whatttt? Nemesis2 is a regular at talkgold and the best way to reach him is to PM him there? You gotta be kidding me! You just sunk your own ship Owen,
anyone who hangs out there as a place of reference to be contacted IMHO couldn't be trusted to begin with, Good luck, Gooneruno's, but be very carefull about sharing any identifiable info to anyone who hangs out there!

You where warned!


Old Today, 08:28 PM #56
pheonixrising
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Originally Posted by investright
By reading posts here, I noticed that Owen does not respond to intelligent questions and remarks.

If he would have any creditability he would respond , but no, he respond only to once that are ready to make complaint, and cry babies with ignorance.
LOL, That is because he is compileing a list to sell his book to when this is over. roflmao


Old Today, 08:36 PM #57
Owen Platt
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However, the point is that the gentleman does not appear to have made any attempt to contact the organiser of the meeting - but claims that he had.
By the way, authors don't sell books - publishers do.
...so, if you want to make a complaint to BoN you will have to go through (Owens recomendation) nemesis2 @ talkgold and send him all your personal-details and snapshots and all details of your account....
...and authors don't sell books - publishers do, thus the author can write whatever - it's up to the publisher to get it sold...

Well, these were two new things for me.

I laughed so hard I allmost spit my coffee out on my screen when reading pheonixrising's answer to pm'ing all your details to a member at a forum. How professional is this I ask you???

:lol: Picabooo :lol: