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    Quote Originally Posted by Henni
    What will you do if Bryan releases the new program before BoN has freed PIPS? Will you pay to join his new program?

    I might be totally mistaken but I interpret the post of Bryan as such that he would release his new program what ever would be the outcome of the investigation from BoN and IF and WHEN BoN releases the servers, those that joined the new program might benifit from the old PIPS.

    Henni
    In responce to the above quote!

    When we first started Rolclub, it was so we could track our investments with pips. Troll were all over and we had to take a hard course against them.

    From bryan's postings i understand that there will be no other program launching before pips itself. Don’t know about the restructured program, as we don’t have the details.

    But if there would be any such program( highly doubt that, as BN wont like it, and Bryan seems to cooperate with them) BUT lets say "IF", then i wound not invest 1$, before we get paid back what’s ours in withdrawals.

    I have been positive to pips and i still am, but i think nobody would go into a new program unless we get our WT/WD etc etc. I am saying this because many members feel that they have waited to long. Most would still like to wait it out. Many feel they don’t have any other options.

    I feel obliged to ask you all, as it’s you, Rolclub is here to support, and nobody else. We might have seemed different, as trolls make a hell everywhere they go, but still, the question is:

    1) SHOULD WE WAIT IT OUT?
    OR
    2) SHOULD WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? And what should we do?

    Would like to see how the members here react.
    My vote is , Lets wait a little longer.
    The vote is yours, all should participate.

    Our policy will be determined by the majority’s will. Even though all might end up one side, and me alone on “Lets wait a little longer”, Rolclub represents you all.


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    READ THIS:

    I was asked in PM

    "Marek,

    What are you trying to achieve on this? you know 99% members of this forum will support you and Bryan, myself included."


    My responce is open!

    The trolls have blaimed me long for:
    Marek you ban anyone that is against pips. That is the reason people dont wish to post anything against pips.

    So this is my responce to them all!
    And if i have not let anyone post what they wish earlier, here is your chance to make yourself heard!

    Personaly i already have achieved what i wished to achieve with this thread.
    Let it just go on. Make yourself heard!

    regards

    marek
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    I repeat this again so all see, as not all read a 90+ page thread all over.
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    Hi all

    Regarding the voting, some say they were surprised that this thread even exists. Other were Understanding, some were questioning my motives with this thread and others were supporting this action.

    Not all go back and read a almost 80+ pages thread, so I thought I might add a little info on why.

    We work on Rolclub all day long to bring you the information in pips. We try to keep it a good place to be. Have lots off trolls in here that we have to put up with, and lots of politics to play a role into for all our sake.

    Trolls like Dogman, notjomamma, and many other blame Rolclub administration for being onesided in this conflict. They have stated several times that “ The reason people don’t say what they really feel, on Rolclub is that they are afraid of being banned.


    For past 5 months we have been sorting out things on Rolclub.com, and we intend to continue the support of pips.

    I had this thread asking all members If :

    We should wait or not, please vote. This was rather a way to activate you all, and show some kind of support. I don’t expect all members to be active on Rolclub, as many just come to read the updates. We in Rolclub team need to know your stand on the issue. We need to see the support for what we are doing. What else is making us working on this site 24/7 for past 5-6 months???????????????

    Your responses will be noted by Trolls. They will now see that its NOT the Rolclub admin and Moderators that are inn with Pips on it, but that the vast majority of Rolclub Membership support pips.!!!!!!!!

    I am myself a member like you all with lots invested in pips. Do you think I would like to Jepordise that? definatly not! Never! I am a firm believer of pips. I have full faith in Bryan, and

    Know that the man is doing all he can to bring the program back on the road.


    But being a forum owner you are a part of accusation from all sides. As I said, and I don’t doubt any of your dedication of will to wait it out, but a pool like this is something I feel I am obliged to have to see where we stand.



    The response itself has been overwhelming good. People as me are willing to wait it out. It sure show me that Rolclub is used for a good purpose by several thousands.


    Some say that the options to chose among were to few or non. Well that was also mentioned well enough, that
    Wither you say I WAIT,


    Or your say NO, and tell us why…..

    Some used that as a question backfiring at me, “What can we do, there is no other option”, Well that’s up to you to say, when you chose that option.

    My intensions were truly supportive only, making the best in pipsters to come out, and that’s why I did not just open a pool, but rather decided to have it in you all posting a post as your vote showing us a bit more about what you feel. This is a very good indication for me, and all rolclub moderators!

    It gives us something to go by, simply fuel to work with the site.


    Was this a stunt to activate members of the site. No but it was a test to see where we all stand, and a good indication for the naysayers on where we all stand!!

    I thank each and everyone that has participated in this thread. I don’t wish you to think any different about how I stand on the matter off Pips.


    I was, I am , and I will be continuing to support pips! I wish as you all that we soon get to see pips online and our investments to pay off, but I have to tell you all, that it might still take some time.

    All good comes to the one that waits. I believe in that. I always have. I sure hope and pray that we wait for something better.

    One quick word to Bryan. I have never seen a thread explode so fast and become the most replied thread full off support for you. You should know, that this is even beond what I expected off supportive posts. We sure stand behind you Bryan. This pool does show how people feel about Pips and all you are trying to do for us, and that more then 95% off Rolclub members are behind you. It also seems like we have run on lots off bad luck, and we hope that the good times soon start.


    I also see that several people ask for a weekly update by you on the matter. We are aware that you cant say to much at this point with BN investigating Pips, but this sure is a indication to you on how people feel. I wish you the best, I support you 100%. This pool was so the naysayers can see how Rolclub stands, and I also felt obliged to ask them all.

    I thank all for participating, keep your prayers coming, and always think positive. Together we are strong.



    Best regards


    Marek
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    Another of my answeres on page 89 is copied and posted so you can see it.

    The point was not to use this forum for negative practice, it was to seek support from you guys. I am sorry if my action have been missunderstood by many, but i sure do only mean well with this kind of pooling.

    I have spent months after months to clean this forum for trolls. I sure hope that is seen. And no, i am not going negative. I just seek your support in this. And yes to one question asked. I do get blinded by the trolls negativity, and sometimes do feel the need to get back on them, as I AM THE ONE THAT TAKES MOST OF THE HEAT.

    Sorry that i felt that way.
    I only meant well.

    regards

    Marek

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    I'll give it till Feb of next year to get paid.
    Or it'll be over for me

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    We should wait it out. I realize alot of you are having problems, but being negative isn't helping. And I am not just saying this. I believe in pips because I have to. Since I joined pips, I have had a stroke, lost my job, and my daughter and I are both sick. Things will get better. And if it takes a little longer. So what?

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    I agree, but as i said, i myself feel obliged to ask all. I would like to hear more views. This is also somthing that is good itself, as some trolls accuse me for beeing to positive.

    I would like to see and show them what you all wish and stand for.

    Make your self heard.

    as i said. I vote -- WE WAIT!

    Marek

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    We Wait! It won't be long now.

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    I Vote, give it a little longer ! We've waited this long, so why Not?

    It's looking and smelling more like Pipsmas, all the time !!! Ho Ho Ho

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    As i need partisipation of all, i will mail this to all Rolclub members in hope of them joining this discussion.

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    we wait.... to do anything else would be utterly STUPID

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin
    1) SHOULD WE WAIT IT OUT?
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    2) SHOULD WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? And what should we do?

    Marek

    Hey Marek

    Well I dont really know what you mean by "Should we do something about it?" Because frankly there is nothing you can do. We all know that BoN and the Malaysian govt knows about Pips and they probably know the details by now. So of course the only option is to "wait it out". I still trust that Bryan ran a legitimate business but made some wrong decisions and those decisions COULD HAVE BEEN trusting the wrong people. I dont know. It is still not clear exactly what BoN is investigating Pips for. But I am willing to wait patiently until the end of the investigation by BoN. I believe in Bryan and until told otherwise by official sources (BoN, Malaysian govt, etc. etc.) I believe that Pips will return in some fashion. Bryan took this too far, he was far too public, far too caring to be a scammer. As I said unless I am told otherwise.

    So wait we must!


    PS Actually the only thing that I thought could be done is to put a LITTLE more pressure on BoN on finding a resolution to the investigation......
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