Thread: Can We Really Be Honest With Each Other?

How many of us are Baby Boomers that grew up in a society (US) that held the America dream? (own your own home, have 2 cars, two kids, and live happily ever after...)

We grew up with the likes of Roy Rogers, Gene Autry, Sgt Preston, and The Lone Ranger. They were good guys, personified. They gave us confirmation that the good guys always win. Retribution comes to those who broke the law.

To make a long story short, The Lone Ranger is needing to catch-up with a nest egg, so we asked our friend for any high return investments he had heard of that we could participate. He said he had heard of a (PIPS) offshore situation but it was highly speculative but promised great returns.

We did some DD and determined we would get involved in 12/04. We could not figure out how to get our $450++ "over there" so we trusted a friend who had "credits" and would open an account for us. We sent him the money.

We watched the simulator and enjoyed seeing the fund increase from our PIPS personal account status. We were of the understanding that the money needed to stay for a roll over (my words) for a time before it could be tapped into. We waited and watched the simulator. We had decided we would get our initial loan (debenture investment) back about 6 months in. The we could decide how much to withdraw for "life".

Then we heard that there were delays in the payments but various avenues were opening up to help ease the return cycle. We decided to not get involved in payment processors, etc. But, we did open up, specifically, a Chase Manhattan CC, in case, that could be used to transfer monies (debit/credit).

About the time we decided to move our orginial loan/investment into the new PICPAY arrangement we found some forums that warned of a possible glitch and they suggested we move our original monies to "pay me now", which we did. Then the ceiling fell in (or we now know as "no payments city").

We have been watching and reading the multiple forums (yes, both doomsayers and cheerleaders and some in between) since August of 2005.

We are not happy but we are not rocking the boat. We knew the possiblity of losing our original loan/investment. But we also hoped it would work out. We continue to look forward.

We do not find fault with anyone. Yes, it was a shot in the dark. But we/I made the decison on my own volition. I have no one to blame or learn from but myself. I am comfortable with that. It we don't succeed in making our millions, so be it.

But, we are not going to castigate anyone that is very zealous from either side of the issue. Also, we will not evangelize and give hope where hope is not warranted. But, we will realize that all good things (perceived or not) come to an end. I will not be a happy camper if I/PIPS fails. But I will not be one to throw stones if it does not succeed.

The Lone Ranger will ride again....like it or not.

The Lone Ranger Creed!
By: Fran Striker

"I believe that to have a friend, a man must be one.

That all men are created equal and that everyone has within himself the power to make this a better world.

That God put the firewood there but that every man must gather and light it himself.

In being prepared physically, mentally, and morally to fight when necessary
for that which is right.

That a man should make the most of what equipment he has.

That 'This government, of the people, by the people and for the people' shall live always.

That men should live by the rule of what is best for the greatest number.

That sooner or later...somewhere...somehow...we must settle with the world
and make payment for what we have taken.

That all things change but truth, and that truth alone, lives on forever. In my Creator, my country, my fellow man."

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hi

nice post.me im looking forward to actually getting some money when he has restructured the new pips site.i have recieved monies from the original pips venture so i kno its real and i kno bryan is genuine.

'That God put the firewood there but that every man must gather and light it himself.'

Thank you!...nice post Kimo Sabe..

When i joined pips i was well aware of the risk of losing my investment, however
my beef is not about that, it is with my picpay funds and pending withdrawals.
Lets remember one thing, if pips was legit once we adjusted our reinvestment percentage and had available funds those funds were out of the investment pool
and risk free (not including the risk of theft) so as far as im concerned if our picpay funds are not accounted for then they were stolen from us, therefor somebody needs to be held liable.

'When i joined pips i was well aware of the risk of losing my investment, however my beef is not about that,'

I could be wrong, but don't these statement contradict each other?

'it is with my picpay funds and pending withdrawals.
Lets remember one thing, if pips was legit once we adjusted our reinvestment percentage and had available funds those funds were out of the investment pool
and risk free (not including the risk of theft) so as far as im concerned if our picpay funds are not accounted for then they were stolen from us, therefor somebody needs to be held liable.'

I'm just asking.... trying to understand....
don't me....

I was not addressing the risk as I was the outcome. But we had to start from a premise. Do the math. Some people's risk is higher than others. They do not necessarily equate. If the funds received were used illegally or not intended to be invested for the promised return than The Lone Ranger would agree in his creed as stated above.

Originally Posted by The Lone Ranger

How many of us are Baby Boomers that grew up in a society (US) that held the America dream? (own your own home, have 2 cars, two kids, and live happily ever after...)

We grew up with the likes of Roy Rogers, Gene Autry, Sgt Preston, and The Lone Ranger. They were good guys, personified. They gave us confirmation that the good guys always win. Retribution comes to those who broke the law.

Thanks for reminiscing...sure was great, those days of Payton Place, Sgt Bilko (Phil Silvers series) and his turntable gambling army den shack, PT109, Everglades, Kemo Sabe of course like U R with yr nick!

Well, the American Dream still persists but these days...its more a question of WHERE and just HOW great U R settled in that counts... the latest stats puts America as Nr 6 spot and France as leading the 10 best country to be in for the next 5 years to come.... Voila!

Bryan found a spot to start up, presuming the environment as highly potential and favorable but underestimated the culture and economic value that country is playing along among leading financial players...it takes TWO to Tango and BM nor PicPay or PI Inc was anywhere near of any significance to be threatened about but do away whatever it now seems, is the inevitable and ONLY option considered by the authorities...!

YB.

YB.

Originally Posted by second mouse

'When i joined pips i was well aware of the risk of losing my investment, however my beef is not about that,'

I could be wrong, but don't these statement contradict each other?

'it is with my picpay funds and pending withdrawals.
Lets remember one thing, if pips was legit once we adjusted our reinvestment percentage and had available funds those funds were out of the investment pool
and risk free (not including the risk of theft) so as far as im concerned if our picpay funds are not accounted for then they were stolen from us, therefor somebody needs to be held liable.'

I'm just asking.... trying to understand....
don't me....

It seems that alot of people dont understand this, pips and picpay are not one of the same, picpay funds are our funds NOT PIPS and like i said above
were suppose to have been removed from the investment pool therefor RISK FREE

Yogi,

We are not addressing the location of the PIPSTER as we are the risk/outcome.

OICU812 is correct IMHO, where are the PICPAY funds and why were they not distributed?

Faith says they will be accounted for but how do we know at this point in time?

When and where (how) are they going to be distributed?

One more thing

I remember on the old forum somebody asked Bryan if he would be able to withdraw funds when they reached some of these ridiculously high numbers
as determined by the investment simulator, i believe Bryans exact words were
"if they are in your AVAILABLE FUNDS THEN THEY ARE AVAILABLE"