Thread: A Humble Request (Merged)

Originally Posted by choochie

I don't recall anyone stating that Gary's business was shut down by a government agency. Just that it was no longer online. What is a fact is that in Victrading's presentation it was stated that they had a $50 million start up capital backing the company, now if what you say is true, and they ran out of money, I would say that this definitely proves mismanagement, and is that the same mismanagement that happened to pips?

Hello choochie

Ok well I should have said people here were implying that it was forced down. I dont know about the presentation because I was not interested in it. I would not trust my money with Gary after all he was just a manager of a golf course before Pips! That is why to this day I will never understand why Bryan would chose someone like him to manager his companies..... Wow $50 million? I would bet that was a lie. But who knows. I would find it hard to believe that if there were stolen funds there from Pips, as some here also imply, it would be utter stupidity to advertise that you have all this money when some of it may have been stolen. Doesnt make any sense.....

Originally Posted by Pippyman

Hello choochie

Ok well I should have said people here were implying that it was forced down. I dont know about the presentation because I was not interested in it. I would not trust my money with Gary after all he was just a manager of a golf course before Pips! That is why to this day I will never understand why Bryan would chose someone like him to manager his companies..... Wow $50 million? I would bet that was a lie. But who knows. I would find it hard to believe that if there were stolen funds there from Pips, as some here also imply, it would be utter stupidity to advertise that you have all this money when some of it may have been stolen. Doesnt make any sense.....

That is my point. If it was a lie about the $50 million, why would anyone believe anything else he has said about pips or otherwise.

I think that the $50 million was a figure designed to impress potential investors, and might well have related more to the limit of liability than to the actual capitalisation which might have been a very great deal less, especially in the case of a company that might be planning to disappear rather than hang around to face the music should things not go favourably(LOL)

Interesting,

So here we are again revisiting Rex's post, and my take on this is still the same, he had to be more involved than just a consultant brought in by Bryan for a couple weeks, or was there more to this?

As I see it, this is the sticking point, why did he report that their was money, and it could be restructured, and then POOF! Everything came to a grinding halt, as if anything was moving at that point anyway.

It is interesting to read the warnings from Rex, when in fact, it appears the warnings should have been drected at Rex? Does anyone know Rex? What about Robin? We know where Gary came from, a golf manager, and I agree, where would this qualify him for a position within PIPS? Sure was a strange choice as manager for PIPS. These are the questions I would like to have answered, so does anyone know.

Good luck to all, Mike

Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com

Interesting,

So here we are again revisiting Rex's post, and my take on this is still the same, he had to be more involved than just a consultant brought in by Bryan for a couple weeks, or was there more to this?

As I see it, this is the sticking point, why did he report that their was money, and it could be restructured, and then POOF! Everything came to a grinding halt, as if anything was moving at that point anyway.

It is interesting to read the warnings from Rex, when in fact, it appears the warnings should have been drected at Rex? Does anyone know Rex? What about Robin? We know where Gary came from, a golf manager, and I agree, where would this qualify him for a position within PIPS? Sure was a strange choice as manager for PIPS. These are the questions I would like to have answered, so does anyone know.

Good luck to all, Mike

One of the scenario's I had heard, is that Gary came from a recommendation from Jack and Suzanne, the original GW gang..

If this is the case, then you can start to sense the vendetta, providing some of the rumors are true about missing $$ back in the GW days...

Keep in mind, Victrading had three points of contact...
Gary Nichol
Warren Webb
Robin Marter


This circle gets tighter and tighter...

Here is the original email sent out by Gary on the 24th of August:

Small world seeing as Jack was one of the original recipients of the email.

Hi Guys,

Once again I apologise for not mailing you
individually but the size of the attachment precludes
me from doing so.

I believe that once you see the presentation you will
agree that it is an exciting opportunity. I have been
researching to business facilities and they are also
exciting.

The purchase is incredible and the returns easily
achievable. Overall with the backing and guarantees
that are in place makes the security available on
varying levels.

I will be talking to you individually over the ensuing
weeks but if you want you can contact me in KL on + 60
xx xxx xxxx.

Kindest Regards

Gary Nichol

Originally Posted by Pippyman

Exactly Gary business was not forced to shut down by some governmental authority as some here would have you believe. It is my understanding that it was closed because they simply did not have enought interested people therefore not enough money. But yet according to some here the government went in and shut themdown and they have all kinds of funds floating around....
Frankly I dont care about Gary and Keith ventures and what they are doing. I just would like people to do some due diligence before they accuse people of wrong doing. If Gary and Co. are guilty it will come out. But from what I have been told there was not wrong doing on their part. In fact if I remember right it was Gary who told Bryan that he needed to fund SpeedyWallet and pay members. But it was stated by Gary that Bryan never did fund SpeedyWallet. But kept throwing money at the Bistro and the Fashion shop instead of pay the membership. So you see usually the answer is somewhere in the middle of both extremes.....

Pippyman, if you want to quote me, put in the entire quote:

Originally Posted by persephone

OUR money indeed, greenberet !!!

Methinks our darksider's didn't plan their venture very well. Purchasing and re-selling antiquities is a monetarily risky business. They assumed that many would join their venture, and if I remember correctly, it was for a pretty steep chunk of change. So very few, if any join, their sitting on a glut of merchandise, and they go out of business.

And now, Gary and his crew, which includes Keith, are petrified and scrambling for money, and are once again targeting unsuspecting Pips members.

Enough of this !!!!!

Originally Posted by second mouse

hmmm.... I wonder how they would go about this?
of course... they do have those tallented IT guys working for them .... may as well use them.... maybe set up a program or two on the forums?..... hmmm

Ooo Ooo....can I bump this now!?

I was hearing crickets in here before. Where are all the players? We ask some innocent questions, the Green Berets drop in and enlighten a few, and all of a sudden no one says "jack".

I thought you guys wanted to hear things of substance. What's wrong? Cat got your fingers?

Arcturus

Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com

Interesting,

So here we are again revisiting Rex's post, and my take on this is still the same, he had to be more involved than just a consultant brought in by Bryan for a couple weeks, or was there more to this?

As I see it, this is the sticking point, why did he report that their was money, and it could be restructured, and then POOF! Everything came to a grinding halt, as if anything was moving at that point anyway.

It is interesting to read the warnings from Rex, when in fact, it appears the warnings should have been drected at Rex? Does anyone know Rex? What about Robin? We know where Gary came from, a golf manager, and I agree, where would this qualify him for a position within PIPS? Sure was a strange choice as manager for PIPS. These are the questions I would like to have answered, so does anyone know.

Good luck to all, Mike

Just a bit of info on Gary joining PIPS....
A mod from HYIPDiscussion had breakfast with Gary in Hawaii and this
is what He stated about Gary: "He is an expat from the Australian Sun Coast and has been living in Malaysia for almost 15 years. He said he met Bryan in October 2002 and told us how he did. He saw an ad in the paper about an investment company and called to inquire about. He was asked to submit a resume but did not have one since he was at his previous job for a few decades. He met Bryan in person and was hired. The rest as they say is history . He says he has some previous background in currency trades etc."

Soooo what about Jack and Suzanne?... part of the original GW gang? yes? I have seen some posts that are making me sense that there was a vendetta.... or something... ?

inquiring mice want to know....

(there seems to be some 'elephants' in the room... uh... forum)