Thread: A Humble Request (Merged)

Originally Posted by SoulSurfer

Jjm, I am not saying there was no humanitarian aid; I am sure you have proof. Read what I wrote before judging me; I said "superficial."

Just how much did this "billion-dollar" company donate? I am saying it was token, used a means to sucker people into thinking it was a "cause for good"

From all my readings, the "water purifiers for the tsunami effort" was a myth. None ever arrived.

So far, what has Ha Ha Looto given to anything humanitarian? Why is that the last part of the "Humanitarian Lotto" to be constructed?

Guess you never realized the formula's that were in place in regards to the donations to charity, and exactly where the funds came from...

Education is priceless, when you perform the proper DD on a company...

4D

I'm not sure where this fits in, but I think they talked about the launch of the Animated Kids Bible in Hawaii (I didn't get to go) along with the clothing fashion line that was launched. As best I can tell that business is up and running. Our loans helped to launch that business. They advertise on this website.

I think I read somewhere that the Animated Kids Bible was turned over to a person named Tom to run.

mycbc

Originally Posted by mycbc

I'm not sure where this fits in, but I think they talked about the launch of the Animated Kids Bible in Hawaii (I didn't get to go) along with the clothing fashion line that was launched. As best I can tell that business is up and running. Our loans helped to launch that business. They advertise on this website.

I think I read somewhere that the Animated Kids Bible was turned over to a person named Tom to run.

mycbc

Sort of...

Tom and Bryan worked together to create the animated kids bible. Tom was the CEO and Bryan, along with our funds, were the financial supporters.

The part of Pips that many forget, was to create a unique place where members could be linked together... A place to keep funds rolling back around and members being proud to be part of the company.

Bryan created the 'bistro', 'tandoori', 'coffee house', 'fashion line', etc. Not only to generate a fixed rate of return, but to also creat something that members would want to share in. Places to own, places to visit when traveling.

The pipsaid portion came to light, due to the tsunami. Again, members would be allowed to utilize the monies earned from Pips. This part was to increase the amount of funds to be provided to charities, so the other projects would not be crippled, or left stagnated.

So many are wrapped around the $$ and cents, that you forget about the meaning and what created certain things to happen.

4D

Good points Taxman...

[Sorry EW, CANNOT let this go.....]

SoulSurfer:

Denial? You accuse me of denial? What are you reading. At what point in this did I say BM was innocent or guilty, that Pips was real or fake, that anyone was to blame? I am offended that you attribute to me something you are not in a position to place. You don't know me, you don't know BM, you don't know BNM, yet you presume that somehow we are contriving to "fleece the whole flock" before the game is up?

I, like so many others, am interested in the truth. Rather than judge the wrapping, I prefer to open the box. I will not make a judgement call based on what someone else thinks I should. I have never presumed to be (the only one) "right". Yet, you present your argument as if you are.

Thank you for your thoughts, I have had them as well. An open mind considers ALL possibilities. Thank you for NOT being abusive. But you are dangerously close to condesention.

Your statement of "fact" is just as valid, or invalid, as you presume 'mine' to be. Your views are valid, but so are mine. I do not cheer, nor do I jeer. It is what it is. Do not accuse me of that which you do not know.

Arcturus

Well this thread is very interesting and very long.
It has taken me over two hours to get to the end.

Keep it going guys.

I joined in May 2004 and managed to withdraw all my funds by Oct 2004 just before the crap started.

Addhesive

Hey Mia! You were on a roll, there..... I don't want to continue on with Hawaii until you are finished with your train of thought.......

How about you toss out a question (or 6) so we can move on to 2005

Please and Thank you

Arcturus

Mia,

You are so knowledgeable....and put your thoughts into words so well. When reading, I to remember most of the information you bring forth. Some of us have took on different names in these forums in order to shield ourselves from those who hunt us. We are still friends of Bryan and of the pioneers who we so proudly began this journey with. We still hold on to the faith that one day the truth shall bring us once again together and that the dreams and visions that PIPS was founded on may continue to help those in need around the world. Please continue to take us on this voyage of memories as we do need to revisit the past so that we can find our way into the future.

PB

There will be always two opinions or more in every Online project going down, but accord to my experience in 7 years online I have never seen an Online project after falling resurrect from the burned place like the Phoenix bird!
I believe in PIPS "concept" but am not that sure as many of you, in what in fact was happening inside Pips offices... at the time authorities went over, kicking doors.

I guess pips bacame too big faster than spected but thats my opinion..!

DV

It isn't the size of the dog in the fight, but more, the size of the fight in the dog...

I think we are seeing the true actions of Mr. Bryan. As he has told us, he hasn't left, he is still visable, and most importantly, still working out the issues.

Back to the time line.... I think as we move into the 2005 sector, some eyes will start to open up some more...

4D