Thread: A Humble Request (Merged)

Does anybody knows if Bryan online programs prior to Golden Womb were set up to contribute to charity?

Point of order, EW or other mod....

I keep seeing throughout this thread references to "Style" -- in fact the whole thread seems to have been started in reaction to something Style had said, and there are many references to Style throughout, as in "Good point, Style, but..."

But there do not appear to be any posts by Style!! So it makes for some choppy reading. Were they deleted? Thanks.

With deference to Mia, Taxman, Paddy, EW and others, are we ready for 2005 yet, or do we want to add anything else?

My only remaining comment on 2004 is that there was ample opportunity for attacks on BM and Pips prior to the concentrated efforts of late 2004 to the present. However (observation here, SoulSurfer) it wasn't until Shaggy and Scooby realized that it would ACTUALLY WORK that they went after it. Attend to what Mia is saying and not saying...........

Final thoughts on 2004 anyone?

Arcturus

He removed them himself, I believe. Only Style knows why...

So you know........Style came out and essentially said "I gave money, BM made me promises, and I haven't gotten my money, therefore BM is a thief, Pips a scam and that's all I need to know......." I took exception to that and decided to request of the Mod's and Admin an opportunity to present what IS known. While we have strayed a bit here and there, we are providing a timeline of events WITHOUT pointing fingers (although some just can't resist) and we will let the events and records speak for themselves.

Arcturus

Yes Mia,

This is the sad part about this whole thing.. TG and others working so hard to bring Pips down , BUT the Greedy league
done more than that ,they also were taking the life blood out of so many people that were being helped.

Not only what Bryan was doing to help children, schools, computers, homes for the poor, trying to get the children off the street.. Etc. etc.

Remember The Pay if forward program that helped so many. I think anglerose started it and Bryan thought it was such a wonderful thing she done ,
Bryan incorporated that into Pips as another means to help the poor around the World.

People giving to others because we finally had it to give . The dreams and the posts on the Old Pips forum about how they were going to help their family, giving to the elderly, Children, hospitals, churches, African relief.. Digging wells for clean water, and on and on and on .. It was not only about them but about others and it was a joy to feel the happiness in what people were giving or going to give … It was catching …

Then came along the Greedy League …

What really ups sets me the most is when I visited the TG forum and there were death threats against Bryan … with pooling money to hire a hit man. I took screan shots of this BUT even that to me was sick and I deleted it .. BUT I am sure there are others that have this saved in a file.

NOW this went way beyond letters for C&D orders, phone, faxes, It sickened me … and for the owner of TG and Mod over there to let this go on was way beyond freedom of speech….

For people to say that TG had nothing to do with the trouble Pips is in also is way beyond me…
Their is of course more people involved in this Greedy League than just TG ..
Each and everyone of then have their greedy reasons why, but what they done was more that try to bring down a company and YES … The TAKE OVER of a Company ..

They were also taking away from the poor , The week and the sick .. for their own Greedy selfish reasons.

Sorry I got off or away from the Las Vegas convention, But sometime one has to vent and I guess this is my time …

Please continue and I will try not to vent again .. BUT..BUT .. BUT when the urge hits me …

goldeneye

There, there, Golden (pats the back * * *) We have to bring this up because some still don't believe that this was a group effort against Pips. Recall that some barked loudly about how they were bringing down Pips and BM and how they would destroy him......and, oh, wasn't there a book somewhere??????

does anyone know for sure if the fashion ware is still going on or is that also "FROZEN"?because if the fashions r being sold,would'nt that indicate money coming in for Bryan?...and if its coming in for Bryan it should b coming in for pips members since pips money was used to get it started...if my understanding is correct....IMHO....Pat

Hundreds or even thousands of people in chat rooms could not bring down a billion dollar company no matter what they said. PIPS ran out of money first, then came the attacks, end of story.

All this blame game is symptomatic of a failure to face reality. True, PIPS attracted a lot of bad blood and ill will along the way (along with all the loyal and faithful who believe in the "magic formula" myth) but the way of the cosmos is: good attracts good and bad attracts bad (and the gullible) so it is no surprise how messy was/is the end of PIPS.

Frankly, a lot of those involved knew it for what it was ("get on while the train is still in the station" was how it was put to me). PIPS' special personality was that it did have a lot of cool "window dressing" but that does not change the underlying fact of what it was.

How was this a group effort against PIPS? FACT: PIPS/PicPay couldn't meet their obligation to pay and as a consequence shut down. It's really that simple and I do not understand why everyone is continuously trying to find fault somewhere else?

Originally Posted by SoulSurfer

Hundreds or even thousands of people in chat rooms could not bring down a billion dollar company no matter what they said. PIPS ran out of money first, then came the attacks, end of story.

Maybe, maybe not. However, hundreds and/or thousands of people in chat rooms getting on the phone and/or writing letters to every bank or organization that the billion dollar company is involved with would definitely "sour the milk", so to speak, and make their working relationship difficult if not downright impossible. Without banks willing to act as a conduit for directing the company's money to where it needs to go, it wouldn't matter how much money the company had now would it? Isn't that a viable answer, and if so, then it's far from "the end of the story"...