Thread: A Humble Request (Merged)

Originally Posted by ArcturusI

In reading this, one would assume that just because you are global and a big fish in the pond, that it automatically legitimizes any and all activities. Lets see: Enron, Tyco, Xerox, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, ALL Oil Companies and Refinery Holdings............Oh and then international banking never have ANY issues and fraud, no laundering................

I take exception to the accusations against others......There are some here lurking around fishing for information and, I am sure, "evidence" that they might gain yet again on the backs of others. As I have said in the past, it is not so much about Pips as it is about self-serving, self-righteous individuals who are only concerned in their own ego and don't give a damn about others. If SOME of you are offended, GOOD! This is directed at a small group here that have no right to speak for me or to "protect" me from the evils of the world. In this case, the cure is MUCH worse than the disease.

Arcturus

I am sorry that you see my question in this light. I was asking in an attempt to pinpoint the starting date for ECTrust inquiries into the CC charges and wondering if the reason so many of the earlier CC depositers like YB weren't receiving the emails from ECTrust was because those earlier CC charges had already been addressed or handled. Also because I know that I had to wait to even open my account until credit cards were accepted by PicPay again. I refused many offers from exchangers because it seemed to me that was how the mess with chargebacks and fraud got started and became big business, and I didn't want any part of it.

Now Bryan is saying that ECTrust didn't turn the funds over to PIPS, and I believe him to be telling the truth. This would definitely explain some parts of the missing funds, would it not? Again, if my question was misunderstood or taken the wrong way, I apologize. Honest questions searching for logical answers, much like yourself.

Regards,
treasurhunter

YW. We will get through this as a group, as no single individual has all the answers (of those speaking here, that is). Don't believe anyone who says they know all -- they don't.

Arcturus

No, no Hunter.......this isn't directed at you. You have a legitimate question and concern. No, this is directed at others who, sadly, keep singing the same old tired song hoping that if it is heard long enough, it will be a hit. Of course, there is no accounting for taste...............

Arcturus

Oh, and to answer your question, yes, Pips did (for a time). It was because of this issue. I believe it initially happened early in 2005 (or very late 2004) and came back a few weeks later.

Arcturus

Understand this is the last day to bring up banking issues.
Rushing here due limited time!

Gary Nichol stated on the PIPS forum that the bank in the Netherlands Antilles had apparently heard about PIPS banking problems and approached PIPS about taking on the business. After this short-lived arrangement Gary Nichol stated that he was at a loss why this bank suddenly pulled out, as they had been very keen to have PIPS business.
By the way, I believe there were more than 10 payment transactions that went through that bank as someone suggested. I believe so as I’m sure that 50% of them, including mine, didn’t end up in a 50-mile radius of where I live!

Bryan stated that we shouldn’t get excited about the banking arrangement in the Philippines as it was only a temporary arrangement in the on going effort to find a workable arrangement to distribute the funds.
Clearly efforts were being made to find a solution, just as Bryan said they were.

Re HSBC. It was more than a money laundering charge that HSBC was facing – not HSBC in Malaysia, nothing connected to PIPS – A subsidiary HSBC bank located in the Middle East was found to have a customer account used for funding a terrorist group that has attacked Israel. A bunch of American, British and Israeli lawyers representing a group of Israeli citizens was/is mounting a legal attack on HSBC. My local HSBC manager told me this situation had sent HSBC into a panic as well as causing great concern throughout the banking industry.
Has anyone here even glanced through the U.S Patriot act? To do so one begins to realize the extent that the act places a heavy responsibility and liability on all banks handling transactions in American currency regardless of where in the world a bank is located. I assure you I am no fan of the banking industry! However, considering the volume of PIPS daily banking transactions that were going on and putting oneself in the position of a bank these days, I don’t think it is difficult to understand why they could get very nervous about handling PIPS. Of course receiving telephone calls informing them that PIPS is being charged with fraud and emails with details of the C&D orders didn’t help!
I must say that when considering all the things Bryan has had to deal with, not least trusted people stabbing him in the back, the vicious personal attacks on the forums etc etc
Well a lesser man might have walked away and blown his brains out.

Ding Ding Ding !!!
You just won the big prize Des !!!

Think of all those who do not reply to these emails...lost revenue, no one to back up the 'fix'..

Since when is a legal proceeding handled via email ??? They have everyone's addresses which were registered in Picpay, the charge companies have their customers addresses....

Sorry Owen....a legitimate company NOT ! (try again please)

Originally Posted by YogiBrood

Just think, they have already retain (nicked) your money, they have the records, esp. your credit card link and acct that was channelled through, they have to "fix" their books per final confirmation from you to cover up their own internal audit and it legally ends up as a "write-off"...thanks to your submission in confirming your affirmations and transaction(s) made... it will be then a case of, ....NEXT! ..very convenient for EC Trust, but what is left for you to chew on?

It would be VERY assuring that an accompanying statement would show efforts are made to secure or recover these "spent" amounts you have paid out.... none of that? Why help them seal the lid for their comfort and convenience....hell, you all have gone through enough and all they want is more info at your expense and innocence to cooperate in helping them get away again???

The money is with them, their lame argument sounds legit for those that do not see it critically and there are too many loopholes here with their method of conducting the research/query leading to a so-called investigation for their part....

How come my CC transfers initially made, had not received ANY letter from them? And how many more didn't? Are we to believe that those that received are the suspicious transfers ???

YB.

Read your book Owen......

Rather funny that Mr. Marsden, who, you will recall, has not been able to comment on affairs with Pips for some eight months, now surfaces with some startling information. And you believe him?

....Guess who I believe....I know what the rat pack is capable of....

Have a great day........

Thanks Chester. You can have an extra day!

Arcturus

Some of this needs to be moved over to Humble, as it pertains to our discussion over there.

Would a Mod please do the honors???

Thanks in advance

Arcturus

nice infos chester...

Originally Posted by ArcturusI

Some of this needs to be moved over to Humble, as it pertains to our discussion over there.

Would a Mod please do the honors???

Thanks in advance

Arcturus

It is done, Arcturus...When I get some time later I'll "neaten up" a bit but for now all of the posts from CC Inquiry thread are now here...

Everwiser