Thread: A Humble Request (Merged)

Originally Posted by goldeneye

OK this may be way off but there could be a inside help by a bank employee ... someone that could move money easy with a push of a button ... I know ,I know , watching to many Columbo movies.. LOL
But to move money like that somebody had to have access to moving $$$ .. that big ... More people involved than meets the eye ..me thinks ..

Now of course this is only a thought on my part .. but I must say this is getting more interesting as time goes on here ...

goldeneye

I doubt the Cambodian government and/or banking industry is the "model" of propriety. Who's to the say the entire bank deal wasn't a multi-level "sting" from the get go...Mr. "MIA" gets 50% or less of the take and certain banking/government officials kept the rest for their part in making it appear the money never made it or even existed...Food for thought...

I wonder what the total $$$$ represented, since the facility
had already been purchased? I'm sure there were costs involved, but
does anyone have an idea how much money we're talking about?
Speaking of which.....what became of the purchased facility??

Interesting thought Everwiser...

I can see this happening .. GREEDY little FINGERS in the cookie jar ... Follow the MONEY and the GREEDY little People are very close by ...

goldeneye

Originally Posted by everwiser

I doubt the Cambodian government and/or banking industry is the "model" of propriety. Who's to the say the entire bank deal wasn't a multi-level "sting" from the get go...Mr. "MIA" gets 50% or less of the take and certain banking/government officials kept the rest for their part in making it appear the money never made it or even existed...Food for thought...

That’s how I would do it, you need someone / authority to cover the tracks... has to be people in high positions with authority. It is a good possibility. Money buys most people! ?

Excuse me Gentle People;

But (IMHO) this is getting a little off track... isn't it?

I thought we were on the search for "FACTS" as best as we can recreate them here???

But what I'm reading for the last couple of pages is now into "Grand Conspiracy Theory" speculation!! (Not that there is anything wrong with that, as I LOVE a GOOD conspiracy theory as much as the next Rabble Rousing Anarchist!!! )

I've read the many theories that GN & Co. masterminded this whole PIPS coup for months now. Largo (God Bless him) has posted his thinking on this on many forums but, unless I've missed something, there has been NO proof or first hand knowledge of all this offered anywhere!!


So, would it not be better that we get back to what we all can agree as "verified" happenings?? In that line, there was some statements made that the Cambodian bank would "eliminate" the W/D problems, etc. However, my recollection is that BM stated on the old forum that the new bank would NOT be used for W/D's in the near future at all!! I can't remember just what the bank would be doing but I do remember that statement being made???

Ok... so now where are we???

Peace Good Pipsters!

Larry

Some Hawaii notes,

Gary spoke briefly about the recent difficulties with the world banking resistance to PIPS, but deferred mostly to Bryan for the explanations…his role was to mostly introduce Bryan.

Bryan spoke next and mentioned that PIPS is now in 42 countries, with 180,000+ members (credit card transactions are again back on-line) and is expected to reach one million members by this year’s end. He is considering opening up China, which would make membership soar!!! PIPS can and will support those numbers because the PIPS investments “make way more money than what goes to 2% paid to the membership”.

Bryan addressed the withdrawal issues by stating that the world financial institutions have resisted and hindered PIPS because of perceived threat to their abilities to profit off others (as banks do), which is the incentive for his “BIG ANNOUNCEMENT” that PIPS is establishing PIC Bank in Cambodia. The license should complete within the next 30 days, the facility has been purchased, cooperation is there from the Cambodian government (PIC Bank is very much wanted and encouraged there by them), management and main staff have been hired and the PIC Bank is expected to be operational within three months.

The current banking situation has resulted in slow downs initiated outside of PIPS to the point that only 6 to 20 wire transactions are being processed daily by the bank, down from 600 per day before all the problems. This slowdown has resulted in lost earnings of approx $100 million dollars from investment potential. Also, PIPS has recovered from the loss of approx $3 million dollars because of credit card frauds. Again, all of this has resulted in a speeding up of the PIPS Bank development.

Bryan noted that they are also continuing to set up other banking, noting that withdrawal processing is already speeding up and will begin to get back to normal (processing with 3 days of request) “soon”, especially once the testing of the latest Antilles bank electronic platform is done and activated, again “soon”. Bryan stated that he could not give specific dates, only that improvements and back to normal operations will happen.

What I got is that the PIC Bank will go a long way towards in-house processing needs, but that won’t happen right away. Instead, PIPS is pursuing other banks that can provide the levels of service needed ASAP. I appreciated the statement by Bryan of “one of these days those same banks will approach us (PIPS) to help them out”, eluding to the fact that PIC Bank will become a major world bank, based on a strong gold reserve (PIPS is currently stockpiling a gold reserve to back the bank). Bryan noted that the trend and outlook is for the need of gold (and silver) as currency backing, noting that China and other nations are now stockpiling gold to back their currency.

Bryan stated that PIC Bank & Trust will specialize in trust and offshore accounts, tax shelters, investment and lending, merchant banking, in-house credit cards. He especially noted that staff will be able to assist members with setting up of tax shelters and IBC’s (international business corporations).

Originally Posted by Hesitatenot

Some Hawaii notes,

Gary spoke briefly about the recent difficulties with the world banking resistance to PIPS, but deferred mostly to Bryan for the explanations…his role was to mostly introduce Bryan.

Bryan spoke next and mentioned that PIPS is now in 42 countries, with 180,000+ members (credit card transactions are again back on-line) and is expected to reach one million members by this year’s end. He is considering opening up China, which would make membership soar!!! PIPS can and will support those numbers because the PIPS investments “make way more money than what goes to 2% paid to the membership”.

Bryan addressed the withdrawal issues by stating that the world financial institutions have resisted and hindered PIPS because of perceived threat to their abilities to profit off others (as banks do), which is the incentive for his “BIG ANNOUNCEMENT” that PIPS is establishing PIC Bank in Cambodia. The license should complete within the next 30 days, the facility has been purchased, cooperation is there from the Cambodian government (PIC Bank is very much wanted and encouraged there by them), management and main staff have been hired and the PIC Bank is expected to be operational within three months.

The current banking situation has resulted in slow downs initiated outside of PIPS to the point that only 6 to 20 wire transactions are being processed daily by the bank, down from 600 per day before all the problems. This slowdown has resulted in lost earnings of approx $100 million dollars from investment potential. Also, PIPS has recovered from the loss of approx $3 million dollars because of credit card frauds. Again, all of this has resulted in a speeding up of the PIPS Bank development.

Bryan noted that they are also continuing to set up other banking, noting that withdrawal processing is already speeding up and will begin to get back to normal (processing with 3 days of request) “soon”, especially once the testing of the latest Antilles bank electronic platform is done and activated, again “soon”. Bryan stated that he could not give specific dates, only that improvements and back to normal operations will happen.

What I got is that the PIC Bank will go a long way towards in-house processing needs, but that won’t happen right away. Instead, PIPS is pursuing other banks that can provide the levels of service needed ASAP. I appreciated the statement by Bryan of “one of these days those same banks will approach us (PIPS) to help them out”, eluding to the fact that PIC Bank will become a major world bank, based on a strong gold reserve (PIPS is currently stockpiling a gold reserve to back the bank). Bryan noted that the trend and outlook is for the need of gold (and silver) as currency backing, noting that China and other nations are now stockpiling gold to back their currency.

Bryan stated that PIC Bank & Trust will specialize in trust and offshore accounts, tax shelters, investment and lending, merchant banking, in-house credit cards. He especially noted that staff will be able to assist members with setting up of tax shelters and IBC’s (international business corporations).

Yes, Bryan was very adamant and sure of what he was saying. He would not make all of this up......so what happen???? We have no proof but I would say whomever Bryan entrusted in this task, would be the first place to look and go from there.
Brenda

Maybe, BigDog, and maybe not...We have been putting together a timeline of as many recalled facts as possible but even Arcturus has stated that a lot of what is left may enter the realm of speculation as we all help each other to reach a concensus based on the things we all do now "know".

I do recall, Hesitatenot, what you listed about the Cambodian bank not being involved with WD's in the short term...Thank you for that information from the Hawaiian convention.

Everwiser

Thanks Hesitatenot for the excellent input. So where do we go from here?

I agree with BigDog here. We should stick to the facts for now. The essay portion of this lesson will come at the end of the program, and will be for each individual member to determine on their own.

First, lets consider some points with regards to the Cambodian Bank:

1. We are talking a significant amount of money

2. A source that is trusted by me has had business dealings in this part of the world, with businessmen from that area, and he was not surprised by the events that took place. We spoke about this and I met him face to face – I looked him in the eyes as we were talking and he was not being casual nor flippant; he was dead serious. ‘Nuff said.

3. At this point in time, it is not the “who” we should be concerned with, rather the “what”. “Who” will come later.

I cannot say more on this topic, or some others, as I am bound by honor ( for those of you who can’t understand how that works, that’s where I give my word, my pledge not to reveal or speak of certain topics or events ) not to reveal certain things at this time. Neither I, nor certain Pioneers, can speak about some things, but we, collectively, have enough pieces to provide you with a fairly complete picture. The remaining pieces are currently held in one hand, and haven’t been revealed (to my knowledge). We have done, and will continue to do, our best to provide you with clues, guidance, and knowledge that you may be able to see this for what it is worth.

Many of you will not be pleased with what will be revealed or spoken of in the coming days. The truth is always welcome; it is not always pleasant. However, in order that you may understand, we will do our best, and when it can be revealed, it will be. But that is not for me, for us, to say.

We have given you clues, we have provided you with most everything that you need. Go over your notes, examine the evidence already provided. It is all there for the taking. Merely attend to that which is being avoided or delayed by those who would tell you “the truth”.

A final clue to this portion of our discussion. Pay particular attention to the communications that we received through IB from GN, and that which were “official” announcements from BM, and look to what is NOT being said, what is NOT being answered. That is the biggest, the best clue I can give you right now. As we move on, other things will become apparent, and we will no longer need to “blame” or point fingers, it will be quite clear (if you are paying attention).

The questions: What was supposed to happen after Hawaii? What was supposed to evolve in the Merchant program? What was supposed to open up in the way of opportunities and diversification? These are not easy questions. They may seem to be, but examine them based on what we have learned so far, and you will see that they are much deeper than meets the eye.

Audience participation is necessary here. If you have questions, ask them. Remember the rules, and keep in mind that there are certain things that we cannot speak to at this time, as they are forbidden, unknown or out of order.

Arcturus