Thread: A Humble Request (Merged)

Some info as to the reason why Warren joined PIPs and what his job would entail:

Firstly, I suggest you make contact personally with Warren Webb at PIC Trust – he’s the guy who’s now in charge of Trusts, IBCs and the like. He, like all of us, was a lending member of PIPS up until very recently. He attended the Hawaii Convention and spoke to Gary about what PIPS had mentioned regarding ! trusts and the like. Having listened to what Gary had to say, he was of the opinion that it did not go far enough. Gary asked him to submit a proposal as to how he would do it. He did that, and was offered a job with the company shortly after. His background is in law in Australia and he attended the Sovereign Society Seminar in Panama 2 weeks ago before taking up the position in Malaysia. I spoke to him about the pool (in general terms) and he was of the opinion that you should establish the Trust first (Which is what I see you’re doing with the global one anyway).


paddy

WW was 'play2xs' on the PIPS forum, right?

RIGHT chester

Thank you. BRB.

Quote "So who were these so called big shot consultants brought in to save deal? ............., but maybe others have the inside scoup on who referred these crooks to Bryan?"

Nobody referred these HONEST people to Bryan. For quite some time, since Pips was obviously having trouble coping with members' problems etc. Robin, who had by that time known Bryan well, had frequently offered his services to the company. It was Bryan who eventually asked their management company to come and help - but by that time it was too late.

Quote "But what of the Fab three....Rex, Robin and WW....isn't this when they came onto ...and then exited the scene????"

I can't speak for WW but R & R 'exited the scene' when the bank entered it.

We'll get there, oldtimer, we will. But first things first. Remember, no pointing fingers. LOTS of blame and stumbles to go around. Lets keep going through what did and did NOT happen, and things will become clear.

I'd like to know from some of the newbies........are you getting all this?

Arcturus

Originally Posted by ArcturusI

I agree with BigDog here. We should stick to the facts for now. The essay portion of this lesson will come at the end of the program, and will be for each individual member to determine on their own.

First, lets consider some points with regards to the Cambodian Bank:

1. We are talking a significant amount of money

2. A source that is trusted by me has had business dealings in this part of the world, with businessmen from that area, and he was not surprised by the events that took place. We spoke about this and I met him face to face – I looked him in the eyes as we were talking and he was not being casual nor flippant; he was dead serious. ‘Nuff said.

3. At this point in time, it is not the “who” we should be concerned with, rather the “what”. “Who” will come later.

I cannot say more on this topic, or some others, as I am bound by honor ( for those of you who can’t understand how that works, that’s where I give my word, my pledge not to reveal or speak of certain topics or events ) not to reveal certain things at this time. Neither I, nor certain Pioneers, can speak about some things, but we, collectively, have enough pieces to provide you with a fairly complete picture. The remaining pieces are currently held in one hand, and haven’t been revealed (to my knowledge). We have done, and will continue to do, our best to provide you with clues, guidance, and knowledge that you may be able to see this for what it is worth.

Many of you will not be pleased with what will be revealed or spoken of in the coming days. The truth is always welcome; it is not always pleasant. However, in order that you may understand, we will do our best, and when it can be revealed, it will be. But that is not for me, for us, to say.

We have given you clues, we have provided you with most everything that you need. Go over your notes, examine the evidence already provided. It is all there for the taking. Merely attend to that which is being avoided or delayed by those who would tell you “the truth”.

A final clue to this portion of our discussion. Pay particular attention to the communications that we received through IB from GN, and that which were “official” announcements from BM, and look to what is NOT being said, what is NOT being answered. That is the biggest, the best clue I can give you right now. As we move on, other things will become apparent, and we will no longer need to “blame” or point fingers, it will be quite clear (if you are paying attention).

The questions: What was supposed to happen after Hawaii? What was supposed to evolve in the Merchant program? What was supposed to open up in the way of opportunities and diversification? These are not easy questions. They may seem to be, but examine them based on what we have learned so far, and you will see that they are much deeper than meets the eye.

Audience participation is necessary here. If you have questions, ask them. Remember the rules, and keep in mind that there are certain things that we cannot speak to at this time, as they are forbidden, unknown or out of order.

Arcturus

Arcturas,

You say in your post "many of you will not be pleased with what will be reavealed..." My question to you is, which side of the coin will not be pleased with what is reavealed? The people who believe in pips or the ones who want nothing but bad things to happen to pips, aka the clowns from talkcrap?

Leftyken

Funny, I've had that question a lot today............. Considering that most on both sides are unhappy now, perhaps I should have worded that differently. How about "every silver lining has a touch of gray...."

Arcturus

Originally Posted by ArcturusI

Funny, I've had that question a lot today............. Considering that most on both sides are unhappy now, perhaps I should have worded that differently. How about "every silver lining has a touch of gray...."

Arcturus

Are you sure you don't mean... every cloud has a silver lining??? (HOPING)
Because I'm reading your post as a not so positive thing, which may be exactly what you mean. Oh well, please continue.

Hmmmmm....not a "Dead Head". Too bad. Don't make what I wrote more complicated than it is. If I had all the answers, I wouldn't be here.

Paddy, anything else to add to that? Don't point, just observe. I recall some other things going on before the infamous post resignation letter to the forum.

Arcturus