Sex for manifesting your wishes

[micky]

Please read thru this thread:

http://thesecret.powerfulintentions....rum/topic/5745

the articles from "Tom De Kok" are quite enlightening :-)

[Wacky]

De KOK ?!?!?!

For some reason I wouldn't expect anything less than anyone who's surname sounds like one of the many synonyms associated with the phallus shaped extension present on a male sex organ.

The idea though makes sense to me. worth trying it out, I mean, what is there to lose!?

I can think of other moments where my connection with the Universe is full blown... not just during an orgasm.

Then, Perhaps he's just one of those e-mail spammers trying to sell Viagra to everyone!

[YogiBrood]

Ummm, utter saxphony when manifesting the intentions.... but away from that forum, De "KOK" is a household name in recent Dutch politics...

We once had an all out "union movement fighter and labour activist" named Wim Kok who then turn out to become in whatever epitomy in a socialist- monarchial development could expect, as the Prime Minister of The Netherlands and he was rather successfull during his 2-term in Office as a once Labour leader, Minister of Finance, Deputy Pm and subsequently Prime Minister.

But the intentions...aaaahhh, those early years... when its completely beyond my control too...while being savagely "ridden" by Jane and gazing upwards at Suzanna's flaming eyes... and yet, in an orgy, what can you expect when Rose is at arms reach together with Desiree fondling elsewhere out of sight but certainly within carressing distance...imagine the explosive intentions while experiencing a life to the fullest in one's late teens... Viagra???... don't think that's necessary with this living "libido..." ummm.

*Actual names replaced by fictional ones.

[micky]

@ Wacky

He ain't selling anything. I'm a bit longer in that forum and he writes good articled actually. What he writes makes sense and now I understand why sex is a crucial "tool" for those black magicians who use it at their black masses. As with everything you can use it for good or negative targets. I think that's what also behind Kundalini is, about sexual energy and how to use it properly.

It also makes perfect sense why the church (i.e. Vatican) preaches that sex is filthy and only for making kids. Sex and true love between man and woman has been suppressed by the church. No miracle here, they exactly know why they badmouth it.

Watch all the 3 trailers (clues) from "The Secret" at http://www.what-is-the-secret.com/ and you'll get an idea why the church has banned the secret. Of course, sex and compassionate love are only a part of the secret, there is more...

@ Yogi

nice story ;-)

[denim]

No wonder women rule the earth, theres a limit to what men can think about in 30 seconds. (or less). Also proves womens minds arn't on the job in hand.

[aeara]

sexual/fire energy is the foundational and or functional force behind the multiverse.
obviously it can be used in magick. but beware of all these authors saying you can manifest your dreams by whatever technique. if there was a surefire tek (for all) the world would be a different place.
and don't forget about psycho-emotive blocks.
to, if you're not careful you could either over burden your central nervous system And or end up Fuelling your lower nature/habits.
but i've found that most magick enchantments work...all except the ones you really want/need. could be the blocks/programming...

um, hope this has nothing to do with a pips' longing.

don't forget that there are other denominations that do not view sex as filthy. not that i go to any. but i've seen how authors just use that as part of their argument - the catholic church. everyone by now should know about the likes of this sinister Institution.
but let us also recall it was catholic monks who penned the Grimoires - those tomes of spirit summoning.

bottom line; SAVE/STORE your sexual energy. do not expend it needlessly.
if you like to relieve yourself, try to withhold spilling anything. cum is a serious nutrient. further - and i found out the hard way - try not to relieve yourself (without cumming) without taking a few days off (unless you're 15 or something). even stimulation is taxing on the system. which is pathetic if you ask me. nature is still working things out....

i've always wondered how nature benefits in making extremely ugly women.
and are the folks who read fluffy spiritual works really supposed to believe that they chose that form before incarnating!?

let's have a poll; who's gone the longest without sex?

[Wacky]

@ Wacky

He ain't selling anything. I'm a bit longer in that forum and he writes good articled actually. What he writes makes sense and now I understand why sex is a crucial "tool" for those black magicians who use it at their black masses. As with everything you can use it for good or negative targets. I think that's what also behind Kundalini is, about sexual energy and how to use it properly.

It also makes perfect sense why the church (i.e. Vatican) preaches that sex is filthy and only for making kids. Sex and true love between man and woman has been suppressed by the church. No miracle here, they exactly know why they badmouth it.

Bullshit!

I just think that some stuff one reads about manifestation is just alot of sensationalism. You know! Sex being the titilating subject it is, together with the claim that one can attract anything easily & effortlessly... there is no doubt that such a claim about sex would someday be concocted by someone and accepted by many. See... everyone is just excited by the idea of having sexual pleasure and also by attracting anything through manifestation (as many people mistakenly think manifestation means attaining things without doing a hitch of work).

I am in no way dismissing the idea, as from my experience manifestation powers exist. But I think just reaching an orgasm doesn't just put you in connection with the universe/multiverse or whatever. If someone is just having sex for the fulfilment of lustfull intentions and without the ingredient of love then that's something that severly limits one's connetion with the field of all possibilities IMO.

Having looked into many religions I am in no way a commited christian but having had a Catholic upbringing I can assure you that what you say there about the Vatican's idea of sex is totally incorrect. Whoever thaught you that nonsense about the Catholic church is a completely misinformed individual trying to find sensational arguments. Just like Eric Von Daniken used to do to 'prove' that primitive cultures were visited by extra-terrestrial astronauts.

What the church suggests is that sex is only practiced between a man and a woman who are commited in marridge, and that it should be open for life (that is against artificial contraception... which is the point I personally disagree with mostly) & that sex should also be used so that a couple shares love. The church (at least these days) doesn't say sex is filthy (it is even encouraged between a man and woman that love each other) or anything of what you said.

There has never been a religion in history that says that sex is filthy! The nearest exception are some Hare Krishna cults, where a married couple must meditate to achieve purity of soul before intercourse. But that's not because sex is filthy according to their belief, it's because one's intention with sex may be satisfaction of the ego rather than a means of sharing love.

The religion that mostly encouraged sex as a reproductive means was Islam especially during the times of the Holy wars where they simply wanted increase in the Islamic population more soldiers to be 'produced'. Islam however never condemed sex as filthy. In fact a man is allowed by Islam to own 3 female companions.

The idea of sex being held in a married couple was (and still is) popular in Judaism cultures out of which all Monotheist (one God) religions came, but again, the Jews never thought of sex as being filthy. THe one-partner idea was not a religious belief at all. The Jews had a culture with alot of hygenic attitudes, to the extent that one shouldn't even touch a woman in days she is menstruating.

Which just makes me conclude that anything you read about any church (least the Vatican) condemning sex as part of a conspiracy and because of it's hidden manifestation powers is just alot of irresponsible nonsense... it's just sensetionalism some are ready to believe.

Contrary to some claims about this subject, there was once an extensive study about 20 ancient cultures. This studied showed that when a culture with conservative sexual attitudes became more liberal it soon started to perish. The conclusions where that in human society sexual restrictions are a necessity for the survival of the species.

I know that life can seem boring at times, but I suggest it would be wise to use rational judgement when reading about something so sensational.

[Wacky]

Also this thread reminds me of the chapter in think & grow rich called 'Sex Transmutation'.

That was an interesting read!

[YogiBrood]

Wacky....what an elucidation...!!!

From the classes you too once went through with Cathecism... Good thougts there... and I for one believe strongly too, the Church has it's fair share of demise with priests behaving the opposite...but that's no reason either that the Church and all those firmly believing in the good virtues built in us are unfounded or gone astray...

It has proven that we are and have been better in many a way as opposed to other religions which ALSO has their equal merits and arguments pertaining to sex... which is without a shadow of doubt, the universal tool as instrument to our existence...whether one looks pretty, UGLY or sheer SEXY... the moment of pairing and exchange with satisfying lust beholds with either when passionately engaged!

YB.

[micky]

Those misinformed individuals are my parents! ;-)

I'm also not a commited "christian" but also had a catholic upbringing, just like you. When my parents were young which is 20-30 years ago exactly THIS has been preached in catholic churches, namely that sex is filthy and only for making kids. No idea where your parents grew up but that doctrine was not unusual at all in South Europe and conservative catholics, you can believe that or not. Looking at todays situation it is in indirect and more subtle ways but depending on where you live and how much conservative churches and preachers are it is still actual today. Maybe you find out which subtle ways there are... Looking at the Islam its worse. The men there treat their women and wifes badly and treat them as inferior beings for only household and making two handful kids. Sex is such a tabu there that on the streets wifes have to walk several meters behind their husbands like some dogs cause in their eyes the woman is not much worth. I saw this same picture with a hinduist couple I knew, she was pregnant with him and she also had to walk like a dog behind her husband. Asking her why that is the case she answered because the husbands are ashamed of having pregnant wifes. Replying to her but apparently he wasn't ashamed to have sex with you she only laughed and signalised that this is common within their culture.

When not in all but in most religions sex has been in some form more or less "demonized", be it quite directly or more subtle. Man and woman have been seperated from each other by their religions, preaching the women being as inferior beings. If it was not in your case (or your parents maybe cause they were smarter just like mine) but in catholic religion, islam, hinduism and maybe others the woman is considered less worth and inferior to a man. Of course there are liberal societies also, more in the cities than in suburban and landly areas. I heard many incidents about this from different people, I saw first hand how men treat their wifes from different religions. Sure, it was worse 30 years ago but also today women still are not treated equally everywhere, including the western world. And this includes true love and sex.

Manifesting through techniques like meditation, focusing thoughts and wishes from heart and also through sexual energy - which is not the only but one part of it - surely has not been taught from any religion on this planet. And there surely is a reason why. I agree with aeara that you should save your energy and not do it too often but when you do it (which is normal and which you should do as it belongs to being a human being) of course do it with true and compassionate love to your partner, something I didn't mention as IMO this is self explanatory, I just wanted to point to a topic I found as IMO it is not unimportant. One shoudl simply know about these and those things. It is a fact that knowledge about quantum physics, manifestation, creation and yes, sex also plays a role amongst it all, has actively been suppressed by powers to be including gvt's, religions, institutions etc.

All religions have been created to control and manipulate people and nothing else. Soon people will realize that more and more and then hell will be loose on earth.

Having looked into many religions I am in no way a commited christian but having had a Catholic upbringing I can assure you that what you say there about the Vatican's idea of sex is totally incorrect. Whoever thaught you that nonsense about the Catholic church is a completely misinformed individual trying to find sensational arguments.