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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinar Madness View Post
    I'm not Neno, so sorry if I'm butting in here. Any way I was on the phone with Wells Fargo Bank in Seattle and the foreign exchange lady said they sell the Vietnam Dong.

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    They all will but, they go thru a Exchange Broker. I learnt this with the Dinar. Any Bank can if they want to get it for you. But you will pay this fee and that fee for it. You Might want to double Check the info. I was going to get dinar's awhile way back from Wachovia & Wells Fargo, and this is how they were going to obtain them for me. Kinda like a Middle man deal. More fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinar Madness View Post
    I'm not Neno, so sorry if I'm butting in here. Any way I was on the phone with Wells Fargo Bank in Seattle and the foreign exchange lady said they sell the Vietnam Dong.

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    Hmmm. I asked at my local Chase branch (same one I use for dinar) about 2 months ago or so and they did not sell VND. Maybe it's time I go ask again.

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    Cool Thats Right Vipor

    Quote Originally Posted by Vipor View Post
    Hmmm. I asked at my local Chase branch (same one I use for dinar) about 2 months ago or so and they did not sell VND. Maybe it's time I go ask again.
    Chase Only dealt in 5 Currency's before the dinar. Canadian, Euro, Peso, Yen, and Pounds I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neno View Post
    They all will but, they go thru a Exchange Broker. I learnt this with the Dinar. Any Bank can if they want to get it for you. But you will pay this fee and that fee for it. You Might want to double Check the info. I was going to get dinar's awhile way back from Wachovia & Wells Fargo, and this is how they were going to obtain them for me. Kinda like a Middle man deal. More fees.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dinar Madness View Post
    I'm not Neno, so sorry if I'm butting in here. Any way I was on the phone with Wells Fargo Bank in Seattle and the foreign exchange lady said they sell the Vietnam Dong.

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    Thanks Neno, I love learning new things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinar Madness View Post
    Thanks Neno, I love learning new things.
    Me Too......

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    If Cheney buying dinar was fact : it would not be in the rumor section.
    this is the address for "The use of blind trusts by federal officials."

    http://opencrs.net/rpts/RS21656_20050923.pdf
    Last edited by bigred52; 15-12-2006 at 06:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinar Cha Ching View Post
    I didn't put words in your mouth but you put your foot in yours.
    Both feet

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsfletcher View Post
    And as the old saying goes, the rich get richer. Why would he not buy it?
    One glaring and obvious reason---the liberal US media that despises Cheney. If this really happened, the media would verbally lynch Cheney and demand his resignation predicated on a premise that he and GWB fought this war for their own monetary gain, blood money for the lives of our brave soldiers, etc. If and that is a big IF Cheney speculated on dinar, he would likely buy through a third, fourth, or fifth party untraceable back to him. There is no way boots on the ground are going to know the investment portfolio of the VP of the USA. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but this statement is groundless and unverfiable. At some point, common sense has to prevail to challenge irrational subject matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaRayaWaitin' View Post
    Let me suggest something to you....

    Case 1. There is no God.
    Case 2. God exists

    Case A. You believe in God
    Case B. You don't believe in God

    Case 1A. There is no God but you believe in God - You had the joy and the benefit of your belief in God and it enriched your life even though God did not exist. Good

    Case 1B. There is no God and you didn't believe in God - neutral..no loss..no gain


    Case 2A. God exists and you believed in God - You had the joy and benefit of your belief in God to enrich you life and when you die you go to heaven - Good

    Case 2B God exists and you didn't believe in God - Welcome to Hades


    Any moron can see that the only case which is Good/Good are the "A" cases - belief in God whether he exists or not.

    Only an dolt would choose the "B" cases - not believing...best case scenario is no gain/no loss....worst case...you're effed big time bro....have a seat in the eternal fire pit.
    You are a sick man. Please notice that that is a small "m". God still loves you though whether you like it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crave681 View Post
    Ah yes.... this matrix is also known as Pascal's Wager...

    Pascal's Wager is the French philosopher Blaise Pascal's application of decision theory to the belief in God. (It is also occasionally known as Pascal's Gambit.) It appears in the Pensées, a posthumous collection of Pascal's notes for an unfinished treatise on Christian apologetics. Pascal argued that it is a better "bet" to believe that God exists, because the expected value of believing that God exists is always greater than the expected value resulting from non-belief. Indeed, he claimed that the expected value is infinite. With this, he sought to convert those, to Christianity, who were uninterested in religion and unimpressed by previous theological arguments for it.

    The wager fails to mention any costs relating to belief. It is argued that there may be both direct costs (time, health, wealth) and opportunity costs. Most modern religions require their followers to spend time attending religious services at houses of worship and to donate money to the maintenance of these places and/or to the needy, when possible. As a result, if a person believes in a God that does not exist, then that person has lost time and money that could have been used for some other purpose. There may be opportunity costs for those who choose to believe: for example, scientific theories such as evolution that appear to some to contradict scripture could theoretically enable a non-believer to discover things and accomplish things the creationist could not. It is also argued that belief incurs a cost by not allowing the believing person to participate in and enjoy actions forbidden by dogma. Many devout people make more noticeable sacrifices for their religious beliefs. For example, Jehovah's Witnesses do not accept blood transfusions.

    (To Pascal however, such costs were insignificant, since he considered secular life to be without meaning, consisting only in the vacuity of what he called "divertissement." On the other hand, he considered that only the contemplative life of a Christian feeling the love of God was truly rewarding for the human soul, God being to him the "supreme good.")

    Others have argued that the utility of salvation cannot be infinite, either via strict finitists or belief that an infinite utility could only be finitely enjoyed by finite humans.

    Sigma Summa: To quote a contemporary singstress, "Who will save your soul, if you wont save your own?"
    ps: Whatever floats your boat, SeaRay!
    "God chooses the foolish things to confound the wise". (paraphrase) Holy Bible

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