Thread: A possible RV Date!!!

NENO!!! You have to ban yourself and everyone else for talking dinner and bikinis in this section!! And my plan will be a success.......all the ladies gone cept for me and i'll have to win the bikini Contest by default!! WOOOOOOOOOOOT



p.s........i cook dinner at least 5 days a week!

I don't know about you guys but the idea of a bikini contest and taking off bikinis sounds like a great idea. I'll even volunteer to judge the contest. If there are any questions as to who the winner is may have to have a second, or third, or forth......look. Could use BLS criteria.

Originally Posted by ChiefWealth53

I don't know about you guys but the idea of a bikini contest and taking off bikinis sounds like a great idea. I'll even volunteer to judge the contest. If there are any questions as to who the winner is may have to have a second, or third, or forth......look. Could use BLS criteria.

I am thinking about resigning as judge, these gals are about to wear me out before we even get started! Thanks for the help!LOL

Nowhere in any of this has anyone said that the bikini contest is limited to the women. I intend to win it. (Yes I am straight... but I still intend to win a bikini contest someday.)

Originally Posted by ChiefWealth53

I don't know about you guys but the idea of a bikini contest and taking off bikinis sounds like a great idea. I'll even volunteer to judge the contest. If there are any questions as to who the winner is may have to have a second, or third, or forth......look. Could use BLS criteria.

Originally Posted by Ialdoboath

Nowhere in any of this has anyone said that the bikini contest is limited to the women. I intend to win it. (Yes I am straight... but I still intend to win a bikini contest someday.)

If you're in it I wouldn't use the BLS criteria.

Originally Posted by oldskiier

I use to belive the same thing ....where is the "economical surge"....I would have thought we would have seen it by now......I remember back a ago saying that the "Economical surge" would help stop the fihgting...and still nothing..why????............

OS,..thies boys in Iraq are not participating with Roberts Rulls of Order, or for that matter not a full deck (for some), as I'm sure you are aware. They are without experience and as a result many statements are made by persons without control "what so ever" over what they say. Just trying to lift your mood just a bit.... and I know you are aware of what I say.

I think we are better informed by acknowledging more the external forces. The forces like the Paris club, banking development, ISX, other (not iraq) government statements, WTO, IMF, cbi, etc.

Info comming directly from; parlament, goi, individuals, has a very low accuracy rating. I find much of what we have received by; voi, goi, some reporters, translations, to be greatly flawed with time,

For me the most reliable info is comming from; our government and people closely linked to the US (not CNN). We are informed by some of the planets best resurchers, yoursef included but instead of telling us what Mount Rushmore looks like, the best we can get is a description of a sand castels on the beach. Information good for a short time only. i.e. not the fault of the messenger, It's just that Iraq is a huge sand box. Permancy is quit low on the list of atributes when it comes to building a new democracy.

The IQD will soon blossem into the salvation of the Iraqi people. I say soon because Pres Bush won't have it any other way. A very exact schedual, that Mr Snow said a week ago. "We will not deviate from." Benchmarks

The IQD will soon blossem into the salvation of the Iraqi people. I say soon because Pres Bush won't have it any other way. A very exact schedual, that Mr Snow said a week ago. "We will not deviate from." Benchmarks

Now that's what I'm talkin' about!

everyday i get the same pms in my inbox, why? when? what else? and i think to myself, is anyone reading these articles? i read them and i see them passing specific laws that are directly related to monitary policy, insurance laws, banking laws, investment insurance laws, retirement laws. those were just a few this morning. im sure that those were needed to be finalized before they started throwing money into the crowd so to speak.

as i and several others have stated, it has been decided on and its inevitable as soon as they get all these loose ends tied together neatly. this is the future of their country and their children and grandchildrens future they are making decisions on, im sure they arent taking it as lightly as flipping a switch so that investors in the free world can party. they are going to do this IN THEIR OWN TIME, not because joe needs to pay the light bill or martha needs a new car.

if you absolutely cant hold out and can find no other way to manage then sell some dinar, if you just arent trying to manage because you want to count chickens before you have warm eggs then i suppose you deserve to go broke waiting.

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This article is about the state of being. For the Gilbert and Sullivan opera, see Patience (opera). For other uses, see Patience (disambiguation).

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Patience (character trait)Patience is the ability to endure waiting, delay, or provocation without becoming annoyed or upset, or to persevere calmly when faced with difficulties.

Impatience is an opposite of patience.

Contents [hide]
1 Patience as a Virtue
1.1 Judaism
1.2 Christianity
1.3 Islam
1.4 Buddhism
1.5 Hinduism
2 Nietzsche on patience
3 External links
4 Notes



[edit] Patience as a Virtue
Patience is described as a virtue in religion or spiritual practices.


[edit] Judaism
In the Hebrew Bible:

"The patient man shows much good sense, but the quick-tempered (impatient) man displays folly at its height." (Proverbs 14:29, NAB)
"An ill-tempered (impatient) man stirs up strife, but a patient man allays discord." (Proverbs 15:18, NAB)
"A patient man is better than a warrior, and he who rules his temper, than he who takes a city." (Proverbs 16:32)
"Better is the patient spirit than the lofty spirit. Do not in spirit become quickly discontented, for discontent lodges in the bosom of a fool." (Ecclesiastes 7:8-9, NAB)

[edit] Christianity
In the Christian religion, patience is one of the most valuable virtues of life. Increasing patience is viewed as the work of the Holy Spirit in the Christian who has accepted the gift of salvation. Christianity's value of patience as a moral is evidenced in the following bible references. In the Christian Bible, patience is considered one of the fruits of the spirit as said in the verse Galatians 5:22.

As Paul explained in his first letter to the Christian community at Corinth, love is the greatest virtue in life and "Love is patient, love is kind. It is not jealous, is not pompous, it is not inflated, it is not rude, it does not seek its own interests, it is not quick-tempered, it does not brood over injury, ... It bears all things, ... endures all things. Love never fails." (1 Corinthians 13:4-8, NAB)

In the first letter Paul wrote to the Christian community at Thessalonica, he urged them to be patient: "We urge you, brothers, ... be patient with all. See that no one returns evil for evil; rather, always seek what is good for each other and for all." (1 Thessalonians 5:14-15, NAB)

The Epistle of James advises: "Be patient, therefore, brothers, ... See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, being patient with it until it receives the early and the late rains. You too must be patient." (James 5:7-11, NAB)

In the Book of Sirach (which is accepted as part of the biblical canon by Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, but not by most Protestants), it is explained that patience is a quality of God: "What is man, of what worth is he? The good, the evil in him, what are these? The sum of a man's days is great if it reaches a hundred years: Like a drop of sea water, like a grain of sand, so are these few years among the days of eternity. That is why the LORD is patient with men and showers upon them his mercy." (Sirach 18:6-9, NAB)

While patience is not one of the traditional biblical three theological virtues nor one of the traditional four cardinal virtues, it is one of the seven virtues.


[edit] Islam
Patience in Islam is one of the best and most valuable virtues of life. Through patience, a Muslim believes that an individual can grow closer to God and thus attain true peace. It is also stressed in Islam, that God is with those who are patient, more specifically during suffering.

Some of the verses about patience

"Seek Allah's help with patient perseverance and prayer. It is indeed hard except for those who are humble." (2:45)

"Oh you who believe! Seek help with patient perseverance and prayer, for God is with those who patiently persevere." (2:153)

"Be sure We shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods, lives, and the fruits of your toil.

"But give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere. Those who say, when afflicted with calamity, 'To Allah we belong, and to Him is our return.' They are those on whom descend blessings from their Lord, and mercy. They are the ones who receive guidance." (2:155-157)

"Oh you who believe! Persevere in patience and constancy. Vie in such perseverance, strengthen each other, and be pious, that you may prosper." (3:200)

"And be steadfast in patience, for verily Allah will not suffer the reward of the righteous to perish." (11:115)

"Be patient, for your patience is with the help of Allah." (16:127)

"Patiently, then, persevere - for the Promise of Allah is true, and ask forgiveness for your faults, and celebrate the praises of your Lord in the evening and in the morning." (40:55)

"No one will be granted such goodness except those who exercise patience and self-restraint, none but persons of the greatest good fortune." (41:35)

"Verily man is in loss, except such as have faith, and do righteous deeds, and join together in the mutual enjoining of truth, and of patience and constancy." (103:2-3)

"It is not righteousness that you turn your faces towards East or West. But it is righteousness to believe in Allah and the Last Day, And the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; To spend of your substance, out of love for Him, For your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; To be steadfast in prayer And give in charity; To fulfill the contracts which you have made; And to be firm and patient, in pain and adversity And throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the God-fearing. Qur'an 2:177

Through every difficulty there is relief. Verily, through every difficulty there is relief. Qur'an 94:5-6

Through every difficulty, God promises, there will be found relief upon it's conclusion. Instead of wanting to skip challenging times, and avoid them, God is teaching that the way to the easing, is THROUGH, the difficulty. It takes Patient Perseverance, or enduring with a good spirit still in tact, in order to reap both the internal and external rewards of struggle.

The Muslim faith believes that without a good spirit while enduring, the struggle will not bear its full reward, thus, Patiently persevering, striving and going forward, de****e the difficulty, is the pinnacle of behavior during challenging times.


[edit] Buddhism
In Mahayana Buddhism, patience is one of the six (or ten) pa*****as that a bodhisattva trains in and practices to realize perfect Bodhi (enlightenment).


[edit] Hinduism
Patience is recognized within Hinduism in the Bhagavad Gita.

In both Hinduism and Buddhism there is a particular emphasis on meditation, aspects of which lead to a natural state of mindfulness that is conducive to patient, effective and well-organised thought.


[edit] Nietzsche on patience
In Human, All Too Human, philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche had this to say about patience:

Being able to wait is so hard that the greatest poets did not disdain to make the inability to wait the theme of their poetry. Thus [William] Shakespeare in his Othello, Sophocles in his Ajax, who, as the oracle suggests, might not have thought his suicide necessary, if only he had been able to let his feeling cool for one day more. He probably would have outfoxed the terrible promptings of his wounded vanity and said to himself: "Who, in my situation, has never once taken a sheep for a warrior? Is that so monstrous? On the contrary, it is something universally human." Ajax might have consoled himself thus.
Passion will not wait. The tragedy in the lives of great men often lies not in their conflict with the times and the baseness of their fellow men, but rather in their inability to postpone their work for a year or two. They cannot wait.
In every duel, the advising friends have to determine whether the parties involved might be able to wait a while longer. If they cannot, then a duel is reasonable, since each of the parties says to himself: "Either I continue to live, and the other must die at once, or vice versa." In that case, to wait would be to continue suffering the horrible torture of offended honor in the presence of the offender. And this can be more suffering than life is worth.

[edit] External links
Quotations on Patience A short collection of quotations on patience from a broad range of sources
Patience quotes From thinkexist.com
Patience quotes From The Quotations Page
Patience quotes From quotegarden.com
An example of patience

[edit] Notes
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Dorrel, I'm with you on the Bush issue. I think he has something to do with the RV. Iraq rv's and Bush pays off the national debt , he comes out smelling like roses.

Originally Posted by shotgunsusie

if you absolutely cant hold out and can find no other way to manage then sell some dinar, if you just arent trying to manage because you want to count chickens before you have warm eggs then i suppose you deserve to go broke waiting.

Maybe people shouldn't be telling everyone one it's a done deal every other week. How can you say they deserve to go broke when you tell them "it's done", "they will announce it sunday!!!!" And then not expect them to "count their chickens"? I have watched your post going back to the darksideand I always thought you were a good person who was just very enthusiastic but now I see that you are just mean spirited and evil.