Thread: Heres a new rumor for all of you

Hi To ALL!
Great post on the Election Law Seaview!
I decided to respond to the announcement in this thread. This is the news I have been waiting for! Later today we should see the Iraqi Stock Exchange (ISX) open to the world.
The best rumors IMO indicate we shall experience the RV Wednesday, and will be able to start exchanging in the US on Friday. Be advised to check around for the best rate of exchange you can get as it may be that different banks have different fees / service charges, etc.
There is and has been lots of talk about taxes among dinar holders. I have a friend who is the branch manager for Marquette, a smaller bank with only a few offices around the area I live in NW PA. Last week his branch had a routine audit by 2 auditors. My friend asked them about taxes involved with exchanging dinar. They told him in their opinion there shouldn't be any taxes involved- even if the value had increased since the time they were acquired. I thought I would pass on their opinion as they are "professionals" and should know...
Blessings On YOU! AL

Orkallen it seems that others on other site have been screaming a done deal reval happening this week @ 2.47 . I was told to look at the currency converters from now until the 11th of December and will see it happen. I just hope and pray that this news was not set up by some Shotgun Pumper Dumper to boost his or her sales. time will tell.

well they need to hurry up and get their you know what together because they just had a series of car bombings in Baghdad that targeted Govt. buildings...killed 118 people....maybe that will light a fire under their A** to hurry up and revel and find ways to put their people to work..enough of this piddy paddy bickering among themselves...we all know by now how corrupt this government is...hopefully the information everyone seems to be getting is on the up and up and not some pump and dump scam that we had back with SGS and Nemo...all indications are pointing to it happening soon..but soon to the Iraqi Government seems to have a different meaning....lol...GO DINARS...Pat

I agree, Benz & Pat. (You can call me AL...)
When I read about the death toll of the past few days I could only shake my head and pray. After all this time I still am amazed at the "cheapness of life" attitude they have over there.....
Then, on the Rumor side of things, I had to chuckle when I read a couple of the forums admit that they "heard from Intel" that the Election Law was indeed a hold up on the RV. This, after saying for at least 2 weeks that the EL was not a factor, that he EL was a "done deal", etc. I have no sources of Intel- I only read posts selected by a friend that are forwarded to me. But logic and gut feelings were that the EL HAD to be at the point where it was announced to the world- "We have an Election Law!" There is far, far too much at stake to disregard that accomplishment as unimportant.
Next issue: where do we look first for the initial sign of the RV? Remember that old saying, "He who holds the gold makes the rules."? Well, while China is in the process of changing the status quo, it still remains at the moment that the IMF is the one who at least CONTROLS the gold- in other words, the banksters call the shots. The major banks of the world absolutely must be the first to know about the RV. And the first of the first must be- CBI. I am not even interested in any discussion otherwise. It would be insane for it to go any other way. Therefore I am only interested in what the CBI show for the exchange rate. Any figure that is contrary to that one is just a number inserted to check out the computer systems for when the real deal happens- such as was the case a few weeks ago. This is my opinion, and it is contrary to the advise of the other forums who have Intel, but I sleep a lot better than most of the forum groupies that keep checking the Forex/Comex. However, let me say that I do enjoy the rumors coming from those within the Forex/Comex industry! I can believe they would have a generalized heads up that something is imminent. Logic says that the IQD should go on the Forex about the time it becomes a recognized currency once again- which could conceivably happen BEFORE a Revaluation- but lets hope not!
There has certainly been much frustration on some of the forums lately, since rumors, Info & Intel have been a little off on the speculation of timing. I don't have today's "rumor update" so I have to stick with my last post which said things look good for a Wednesday RV.
If Wed. comes and goes with no RV, I don't know if I'll bother to post the excuses why it didn't happen- depends how intriguing they are! I think I will make a prediction though, and then I'll have to post if I was right or not. My prediction is- it will be blamed on the T. Reuters/TBI deal not being in place , up and rolling. This excuse is only a week old so it still has some life left in it!
Meanwhile, I am supposed to get my FINAL order of IQD delivered today!
Blessings On YOU! AL

Thanks Al.. I was sorry to see that your "banana" was not dancing. LOL I hope we indeed see the end to this ride, but my gut tells me that there is a longer way to go. Corruption is such a way of life, lining their pockets is all that matters to the Parliment members (and some folks in our Government also, sad to say). Just doesn't feel that we are done. So many issues remain. many not significant but out there just the same. I will join you all in prayer that the end is upon us. My little Church is already deep in debt, what a great way to start the New Year.. Getting it debt free....You all have a great day..67

thanks AL...i know you don't have any intel...i honestly don't believe any of the forum members whether those at rolclub's forum or all the other dinar forums have any kind of INTEL either.....I am sure some may claim that they do...but most of us have been there...done that....lol...probably the closest thing to intel i can think of is MIKE{OSW} with his Kurd business friends....i like the way you{AL} present your rumors or theories as you may because logically they all do make sense....i just don't get as high for the rumors as i once did because of all the highs and lows that we went thru in past years...now i try to keep an even keel...read all the information that's out there...and PRAY...as i said in an earlier post,we have all seen how corrupt they are...and how fast they move....lol...that being said,it is a shame that they continue at this snail's pace while their people keep suffering and blowing themselves up....hopefully this is the year that our wait is finally over...and AL,keep on posting what your friend sends you in the rumor section.....this way we know its just a rumor and no done deal like the other ones used to tell us....lol....I for one enjoy hearing the rumors and how you present them as it does give us a glimmer of hope that this wild ride may be over soon....GO DINARS...Pat

Hi Friends!
Well............................gee, is Wednesday here and almost over-already???
Time sure flies by when a rumor date arrives and nothing happened!
But what beats me is nobody gave any definitive excuse as to WHY nothing happened! I was SURE it would have to do with T. Reuters and all that deal, but nobody said anything, except........"No one is saying anything. Our Intel contacts are tight lipped."
Well....that's kind of refreshing, actually...... Kinda levels the playing field.....Now all of us together can suck our thumbs and look eastward and wonder what the new day will bring...More terror and death?....Another oil deal?....Another law- delayed?...Another promise- broken?....A reinstatement of the dinar to the pre-Saddam rate?....A revaluation of the IQD?
Only the Lord knows. BUT- there's a new rumor a'com'n....Ah kin feel it...Ah tell ya I kin smell it! Don't know what it is, but it'll be here soon!

I dunno Warrior...sometimes that banana is dancin' and sometimes he ain't. Maybe he stops for a breather when his arms & feet get tired? Like you, I am very anxious to help the medium size church I go to- plus we have a small church school that flounders.
But about that corruption we always hear about....now, if I was a badboy and I scammed several million dinar due to my advantageous position of power and authority, I would be quite anxious to have that RV inacted sose I could have oodles of purchasing power and live like a king. I'd be hoot'n & holler'n with the best of 'em to get that RV thing to be a done deal!
Just my opinion...
Blessings On YOU! AL

well Ive been on here a while now but have never posted. From what Ive read and seen the next rumor will be...I have it from a reliable source deep undercover in the banking system from a guy in the know that heard it from a friend of a friends cousins, uncles aunt that the reval will happen the day after the election. Im truely not trying to be so scarcastic but Im so tired along with everyone else Im sure tired of waiting on the reval. I often wonder if the rumors get started when the sales of dinars go down it is a trend Ive noticed. I think we have been supporting the government there by buying the dinars. I do agree with the previous post that if the corruption is as bad as "they" say then why dont they wan a reval even worse than we do.

I didnt mean to rant on my first post but I need this reval to happen just like the other 99% of people who purchased dinars because of a rumor that the reval was fixing to happen.

Merry Christmas to all and may the new year bring what we have all been waiting for the RV.

trust me...they are very corrupt there...and they don
't even trust their friends...its just the way they are...the reason they don't want to revel right now as far as i can see is because Kuwait hasn't released them from chapter VII of the money that Iraq owes them...and that they would have to pay Kuwait a lot more money once it revels... this government has been stealing funds that were sent by the U.S.A ever since we started funding them in 2003...i forget how many BILLIONS of American taxpayers money was "LOST" or "MISPLACED" as they say so they don't need to revel to have a fortune...they are set up just fine now...its like any politician, once he gets in office..he just don't want to lose that ""GOOD THING"" that he has going...and once they revel and get the oil contracts signed they won't be getting any more of this money from the good ole U.S.A. to "LOSE" or "MISPLACE" because they will be able to be self sufficient...but trust me...they are CORRUPT...Pat

Hi Friends!
I don't know that I found the real reason for the "delay" of the RV- but my eyebrows perked up when I read the part I tried to enlarge the type below. I hope all have been following this fabrication of lies and deceit promoted by the Climate Change & Global Warming phonies. There is a lot of eye opening info below if you haven't been able to keep up on this subject the last 3 months. Lord Monckton is a hero in my book.
Anyway- what I highlited below is an interesting theory on a possible "why" we haven't seen the RV yet- It would be because the World Bank hasn't had the Copenhagen Treaty signed by all th fools yet! Read On...
Blessings On YOU! AL

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Lord Monckton Says Secretive Copenhagen Treaty Creates Global Government Tax
by Paul Joseph Watson
InfoWars.com
Wed, Dec 9th, 2009 12:00:00 am

Source: InfoWars.com

Lord Christopher Monckton warns that the secretive draft version of the Copenhagen climate change treaty represents a global government power grab on an “unimaginable scale,” and mandates the creation of 700 new bureaucracies as well as a colossal raft of new taxes including 2 percent levies on both GDP and every international financial transaction.

Speaking with The Alex Jones Show, Monckton, who is in Copenhagen attending the UN climate summit, said that when he attempted to obtain a copy of the current draft of the negotiating text agreement, he was initially rebuffed before he threatened an international diplomatic incident unless the document was forthcoming.

“I insisted and it took about 10 minutes and they consulted each other with three or four of them arguing over it – none of them would produce the document….I said I know this treaty exists because this is what the conference is all about,” said Monckton.

Only after Monckton threatened repercussions was he handed the the current draft of the treaty, and the details it contained are perhaps a clue as to why the UN officials were so keen to keep it under wraps.

“Once again they are desperately trying to conceal from everybody here the magnitude of what they’re attempting to do – they really are attempting to set up a world government,” said Monckton, adding that the word “government” was no longer used but the process of further centralization of power into global hands was clearly spelled out in the treaty.

Monckton said that the new world government outlined in the treaty would be handed powers to, “Tax the American economy to the extent of 2 percent GDP, to impose a further tax of 2 percent on every financial transaction….and to close down effectively the economies of the west, transfer your jobs to third world countries – all of that is still in the treaty draft.”

As the leaked document out of Copenhagen reported on by the London Guardian revealed yesterday, this massive new system of global taxation will be paid not to the UN, but directly into the coffers of the World Bank.

“The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank; would abandon the Kyoto protocol – the only legally binding treaty that the world has on emissions reductions; and would make any money to help poor countries adapt to climate change dependent on them taking a range of actions,” reported the Guardian.

Monckton illustrated the size of the new taxes being proposed by noting they amounted to at least half of the entire US defense budget.



“This is how they are going to fund this vast new government they’re setting up,” said Monckton, adding that he counted around 700 new bureaucracies that would be created as a result of the treaty, which would be bankrolled by taxpayers even outside of the raft of new taxes the treaty would create.

Monckton outlined how the new taxes would be enforced, stating, “They’re going to auction allowances to emit greenhouse gases and if you don’t buy an allowance to emit greenhouse gases, you won’t be allowed to emit them,” adding that the text contained a provision for a “uniform global levy of $2 dollars per ton of CO2 for all fossil fuel emissions,” as well as an additional tax on every commercial plane journey, except ones that go in or out of poorer countries.

There would also be a “global levy on international monetary transactions – that means every transfer of money across borders will be taxed,” said Monckton, adding that this would be on top of the GDP tax.

The treaty outlines, “Penalties or fines for non-compliance,” in developed countries and the creation of an international police force to “enforce its will by imposing unlimited financial penalties on any countries whose performance under this treaty they don’t like,” added Monckton, saying that it amounted to a total global government takeover on an “unimaginable scale”.

“We’re looking at a grab for absolute power and absolute financial control worldwide by the UN and its associated bureaucracies and 700 new bureaucratic bodies,” said Monckton.

Speaking about how such draconian measures were being forced through despite the recent scandal surrounding how key IPCC-affiliated scientists conspired to “hide the decline” in global warming, Monckton emphasized how the climate change establishment were still ludicrously attempting to downplay the significance of the climategate emails by merely repeating their already discredited propaganda about global warming.

“What has happened is that the mainstream media has done themselves terrible damage by signing up to this climate nonsense and then by servilely refusing to admit that climategate was happening, admit how serious it was and simply inform their readers of what was actually in these emails,” said Monckton, “Admissions that while they’re telling us, as the Met Office did just today, that today is the warmest decade since records began 150 years ago, privately what they’re saying in the climategate emails is ‘hey look we’ve got a temperature which has been falling and we can’t explain why and it’s a travesty that we can’t explain why’ – so they’re saying one thing to us publicly to maintain the scare that’s making them rich, and that’s what’s called fraud, it’s criminal fraud, and on the other hand they’re saying privately ‘oh dear oh dear we can’t account for the fact that there’s been no warming for the last 15 years’”.

Monckton said that the Copenhagen treaty meant America was in “immediate peril” of losing its freedom to a “sinister dictatorship” being formed under the contrived pretext of global warming.

Watch the five part interview with Monckton below.